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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Topic started by: SuperFuzz on Saturday 17 March 18 14:43 GMT (UK)
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I am looking for a Bridget McGorry/McGoury (could be slightly different spelling). She was born about 1820, possibly in Londonderry. This is only a guess based on where she lived later on and where some of her children were born. She married Farrell Cleary, but I am not sure when or where. They had a son, born James Cleary in Corrick, Draperstown in 1848 and Catherine in 1864. There may be other children. I would love to find out where she was born and who her parents were.
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Tithes Applotment Books
1823-1837 Tithes Applotment Books
based upon the index work of the Irish Genealogy Hub’s
listing for each parish in Northern Ireland,
which are quicker to lookup if you know the parish!
The relevant original books are in the
Public Record Office of Northern Ireland (PRONI) Belfast
searching just for Ballynascreen civil parish
Cleary, John Townland: Cavanreagh Year: 1825
Cleary, Lawrence Townland: Cavanreagh Year: 1825
Cleary, Ned Townland: Corick Year: 1825
Cleary, Shane Townland: Cavanreagh Year: 1825
didn’t find McGorry/McGoury
my guess suggests Farrell’s father could be Ned, or Peter Sr below,
also using an incomplete index to hubs index to the parish index produces
McGorean, William-T: Millix Y: 1833-Errigal Keerogue-Tyrone
McGorrery, Bernard-T: Ballymoil Y: 1827-Tamlaght-Derry & Tyrone
McGorrery, Edward-T: Ballymoil Y: 1827-Tamlaght-Derry & Tyrone
McGorrery, Edward-T: Ballymoil Y: 1827-Tamlaght-Tyrone
McGorrery, James-T: Gortalowry Gardens Y: 1826-Derryloran-Derry & Tyrone
McGorrery, James-T: Gortalowry Gardens Y: 1826-Derryloran-Tyrone
McGorrery, Thos.-T: Druminar Y: 1827-Tamlaght-Derry & Tyrone
McGorrery, Thos.-T: Druminar Y: 1827-Tamlaght-Tyrone
McGorry, Alexr.-T: Knockavaddy's Y: 1825-Desertcreat-Tyrone
McGorry, Bernd.-T: Knockavaddy's Y: 1825-Desertcreat-Tyrone
McGorry, Jno.-T: Sessagh Murphy Y: 1825-Desertcreat-Tyrone
McGorry, Owen-T: Sessagh Murphy Y: 1825-Desertcreat-Tyrone
McGorry, Wm.-T: Sessagh Murphy Y: 1825-Desertcreat-Tyrone
1860’s Griffiths Valuation of Ireland using the quick index of http://www.failteromhat.com/post1845.php
for map references and more details use http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/
Cleary Farrell Corick Ballynascreen Derry
Cleary Peter Corick Ballynascreen Derry
Cleary Peter Corick Ballynascreen Derry
Cleary John, Jr. Cavanreagh Ballynascreen Derry
Cleary John, Sr. Cavanreagh Ballynascreen Derry
Cleary Laurence Cavanreagh Ballynascreen Derry
Cleary Philip Cavanreagh Ballynascreen Derry
Cleary Matthew Moyard Ballynascreen Derry
Cleary Michael Moyard Ballynascreen Derry
Cleary Francis Owenreagh Ballynascreen Derry
Corrick I think is spelt nowdays Corrick Road and is about 3 miles SSW of draperstown
the road is about 3 miles long
https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/sites/default/files/publications/Guide_to_church_records.pdf
BALLYNASCREEN, CO. LONDONDERRY
C.I. Ballynascreen (or Ballinascreen) (Derry diocese) Baptisms, 1808-19 and 1824-1916; marriages, 1825- 6, 1828-45 and 1879-1933; burials, 1824-1960; census, 1842 and 1888; list of rectors, 1622-1952; list of preachers, 1825-42.
Parish reports, 1870; lists of subscribers to the building fund, 1887.
Baptisms, 1917-; marriages, 1934-; vestry minutes, 1808.
C.I. St Anne’s, Sixtowns (Derry Diocese) [Originally a chapel of ease in Ballinascreen]
[Earliest records destroyed in Dublin]
Baptisms, 1878-1983; marriages, 1881-1926; burials, 1879-1958.
Visitation report, 1867 and 1870.
Marriages, 1927-.
P. Draperstown
Baptisms,1837-1947; marriages, 1837-44 and 1878- 1923; session minutes, 1845-86; communicants’ lists, 1871, 1875-9 and 1883.
R.C. Ballinascreen (Draperstown) (Derry diocese) Baptisms, 1836 and 1846-81; marriages, 1834-85; funerals, 1831-2 and 1848-51.
if you look this up you will find the relevant microfilm roll nos etc
sorry have run out of time fo McGorry/McGoury
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Ancestry indexes to Catholic baptisms Ballinascreen show
? Emas Cleary 3rd May 1847 parents Farrell Cleary and Bridget McGoug , Corick
Sponsors Peter and Mary Cleary
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632987#page/52/mode/1up
Hanah Cleary 28th September 1854 Farrell Cleary and Bridget McGary, Corick
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632987#page/82/mode/1up
Sponsors Michael McKeown and Peggy McKeown
John Cleary 18th June 1858 Farrel Cleary and Bridget McGorry, Corick
Sponsors Nicholas and Ann McKeown
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632987#page/104/mode/1up
The birth in 1847 looks like Emas and there is a burial here - August 26th Emas Cleary
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632987#page/158/mode/1up
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Following on useing the surviving fragments for the 1831 census show I have rearranged order slightly
Residents of a house 19 in Corick (Ballynascreen, Loughinshollin, Londonderry)
Number of house –Forename- Surname- Number of families in each -Number of males in family Number of females in family- Number of male servants- Number of female servants- Number in Established Church- Number of Roman Catholics- Number of Presbyterians -Number of other Protestants
Male Female
No 19 Eneas Cleary 1 4 5 - - - 9 - -
there are two McGowan families in the same census nearby i was looking fo McG*
Residents of houses 11 and 12 in Moneyguiggy (Ballynascreen, Loughinshollin, Londonderry)
No 11 Saml McGowan 1 1 3 2 1 - 3 4 -
No 12 Jas McGowan 1 2 4 3 1 - 4 6 -
if either Samuel or James had a daughter named Bridget McGowan that might identify her in this context and as a mixed marriage record it might make it difficult to find the record
I didn’t check each sub division of Ballynascreen or Loughinshollin
from above Eneas Cleary might well be the father of Peter and Farrell and even grandfather see the Emas note by Heywood in previous reply
1847 we are in famine times
good luck onwards
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Thank you guys for your help! Just to clarify, you think this Eneas Cleary is Farrell's father? And Farrell has a brother called Peter? Isn't that Eneas that died Farrell's son though? And Bridget's baptism/birth/parents cannot be found?
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Looking at the name suggestions, I think ‘Emas’ could well be Eneas. I was thinking more birth and death of the same child but maybe not - maybe the death is an older Eneas.
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‘And Bridget's baptism/birth/parents cannot be found?’
have you checked the marriage records around Draperstown area in the PRONI list I gave you. One of my experiences is if a mixed marriage didn’t take place in a catholic church, it sometimes took place in a Church of Ireland church rather than a Presbyterian church.
Slow up please, Rome wasn’t built in a day, you know more than us and are not offering us enough for the leap back to Ireland, for us to be sure you factually know everything overseas at the nearest point of arrival after her emigration.
Did she emigrate?
what lead/led you to guess Bridget was born about 1820?
do I discount the following as a wrong family?
is it possible that the next door neighbor or family sharing accomodation in Kingston, Mc Goir could be McGorry etc
ie Bridget emigrated with neighbours. have you checked out family search.org s FAMINE emigration records
1860 CENSUS US Kingston, Ulster, New York, United States
Bridget Cleary Female 26[b1834] White 1834 Ireland 3
Catharine Cleary Female 4 [b1866] White 1856 New York 3
Paterick Mc Goir Male 50 White 1810 Ireland 3
Bridget Mc Goir Female 35 White 1825 Ireland 3
John Mc Goir Male 19 White 1841 Ireland 3
Margaret Mc Goir Female 15 White 1845 Ireland 3
Peter Mc Goir Male 5 White 1855 New York 3
Ann Mc Goir Female 3 White 1857 New York 3
Paterick Mc Goir Male 1 White 1859 New York 3
I didnt check further US census
over to you, do stay with this website and heywoods thoughts have 25k of experience in replies on just this website, keep your options open good luck
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Hi SuperFuzz,
The Irish parish records can be quite confusing at times. I suppose the priests didn’t think we would want to read them decades later so sometimes the writing or order isn’t the best. ;)
The US census record posted looks tempting but the children were still being born in Draperstown so won’t be them.
I found more
Anne Clery 6th May 1860 parents Farrel Clery and Biddy McGorry, Carrick/Corick
Sponsors Henry Mellon and ? McGorry
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632987#page/117/mode/1up
You say you have Catherine 1864 - her sponsors were Nicholas and Ann McKeown - as John’s. That is two McKeown couples - perhaps they are connected.
Heywood
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Thanks so much for your help and research, I really do appreciate it. I got this info about Bridget from someone on Ancestry who I spoke to, so I suppose her birth date could be different. Thank you for all you have found.
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Doesn't get you Bridget's parents or marriage but does indicate that she was born circa 1820 from death certificate.
Farrell Cleary (c1805-1881) m. Bridget McGorry?/McGoury? (c1820-1882)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1881/06443/4851590.pdf
Letters of Administration (with the Will annexed) of the personal estate of Farrell Cleary late of Corick County Londonderry Farmer who died 28 May 1881 at same place were granted at Londonderry to Francis Cleary of Corick aforesaid Farmer the Son and a Legatee. Will written 1881 mentions wife Bridget & children Francis, Mary, James, Hanna, Anne, Catherine.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1882/06396/4836786.pdf
1. Mary Cleary (alive 1881) m.(1865 Draperstown) Dominick Bradley https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGV8-BJY8
a. ? Peter Bradley
2. Eneas? Cleary (1847 Corick-1847?)
3. James Cleary (1848 Draperstown?-aft.1881)
4. Hanna Cleary (1854 Corick) m.(1888) James Shiels
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1888/10765/5926130.pdf
5. Francis Cleary (c1855-1922), Corick, m.1 (1888) Mary McFall (c1865-1893); m.2 (1895) Mary Anne Bradley https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1893/05997/4706226.pdf http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Bancran/Carrick/1543256/ http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Bancran_Glebe/Corick/609474/ Probate of the Will of Francis Cleary late of Corick County Londonderry Farmer who died 13 August 1922 granted at Londonderry to Patrick McFalls and Peter Bradley (Dominick) Farmers Effects £80 18s. 4d.
a. Patrick Cleary (1889)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1889/02478/1920022.pdf (mother Mary McFall)
b. Patrick Cleary (c1900-1911) or is this the Patrick born 1889?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1901/05722/4614711.pdf
c. Bridget Cleary (1890)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1890/02423/1902717.pdf (mother Mary McFalls)
?m.(1912) Michael Hegarty https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1912/09903/5598984.pdf
d. Mary Cleary (1892)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1892/02340/1875359.pdf (mother Mary McFalls)
6. John Cleary (1858)
7. Anne Cleary (1860 Corick-alive 1881)
8. Catherine Cleary (1864-alive 1881)
Could be other children and I haven't searched any church records so lots moreresources to explore :)