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Title: Albert Whetton born abt 1876 in Measham, Derbyshire, England
Post by: Chiad Fhear on Sunday 18 March 18 18:52 GMT (UK)
Hi there

Firstly, I appreciate I have posted this on the Leicestershire pages but Measham was "relocated" from Derbyshire to Leicestershire sometime around 1900.

I'm researching a Whetton line on behalf one of Albert's grandnephews, who now lives here in Fife, Scotland, but have "hit the wall" with Albert after the 1891 Census where he was recorded as an "Agricultural Labourer" residing at "Wood Yard, Measham, Derbyshire, England" with his parents  :-\

I know Albert was the 3rd son, 7th child, of Richard Whetton 1834-1900 and Emma Dennis 1841-1903 but that's as far as I can go.

There's a "tentative" link with Victoria in Australia on TROVE that could be him, but without parents' names to back it up I'm uncertain.

Can anyone help?

Regards

Chiad Fhear
Title: Re: Albert Whetton born abt 1876 in Measham, Derbyshire, England
Post by: emeltom on Sunday 18 March 18 19:45 GMT (UK)
1901
RG 13/3140/F61/p48
8 St Marks Terrace, Mansfield Nottingham
Albert Whetton Boarder 26 born Measham, Leicestershire Railway Passenger Guard

He's boarding with a family called Atkinson.

Can't see him in 1911

Emeltom
Title: Re: Albert Whetton born abt 1876 in Measham, Derbyshire, England
Post by: Chiad Fhear on Sunday 18 March 18 22:04 GMT (UK)
Thanks Emeltom

One more step along the way!

Chiad Fhear
Title: Re: Albert Whetton born abt 1876 in Measham, Derbyshire, England
Post by: trish1120 on Monday 19 March 18 13:38 GMT (UK)
Regarding the one posted by emelton;
In last Census available same occp in Sheffield, Yorks, unm, born 1878 Measham, Leics. Under Albert Joseph Whetton.
Title: Re: Albert Whetton born abt 1876 in Measham, Derbyshire, England
Post by: stitchwitch on Monday 19 March 18 18:56 GMT (UK)
What about this one?

Name:    Albert J Whetton
Death Age:    78
Birth Date:    abt 1876
Registration Date:    Mar 1954
Registration district:    Burton upon Trent
Inferred County:    Staffordshire
Volume:    9b
Page:    109

Title: Re: Albert Whetton born abt 1876 in Measham, Derbyshire, England
Post by: Chiad Fhear on Monday 19 March 18 19:46 GMT (UK)
Dear Trish and Stitchwitch

Sorry for the delay in replying but my wife and I have had a "retail day" out in Glasgow today and have just returned home  ::)

A couple of contenders, most certainly, although the "Joseph" middle name hasn't cropped up anywhere else ... yet  ;D

Unfortunatley, if I were to go for it, the Death Certificate wouldn't mention his parents ... as our Scottish ones do  ::)  so no help there.

And unfortunately ... again ... Albert's grandnephew didn't even know this branch of his family existed until I "unearthed" them!

Chiad Fhear
Title: Re: Albert Whetton born abt 1876 in Measham, Derbyshire, England
Post by: stitchwitch on Monday 19 March 18 21:26 GMT (UK)
Hmmmm ....

if we were to assume that the 1954 UK death is him, and we assume that he carried on working on the railways, then he might well show up on the 1939 Register. Now we need someone with a current FindMyPast sub to look there for him and see who he's with, etc. (There are 3 obvious ones on the index, of which one I'm fairly sure isn't him). Otherwise, you're waiting till I go to the library later in the week.

The death certificate would tell us who notified the death. With luck, it might be a relative. Worth a punt?
Title: Re: Albert Whetton born abt 1876 in Measham, Derbyshire, England
Post by: Chiad Fhear on Monday 19 March 18 22:05 GMT (UK)
Hi stitchwitch

I feel we may be getting somewhere with Albert and I'd be happy, for now, to await the result of your visit to the Library.

FindMyPast isn't one of my subscriptions  :(

Chiad Fhear
Title: Re: Albert Whetton born abt 1876 in Measham, Derbyshire, England
Post by: Jomot on Tuesday 20 March 18 03:06 GMT (UK)
An AJ Whetton, Railway Guard, was a member of the National Union Of Railwaymen, and there are records of him holding membership in Morecambe, Lancs from 1927 until 1941.

The free index of the 1939 register has him transcribed as Albert J Whitton.  Unmarried. 

The probate for the 1954 death lists him as Albert Joseph Whetton of 92 High Street, Measham, Leicestershire.  He died 27 Mar 1954 at the Infirmary, Burton on Trent.  Administration (with will) granted to Doris Ellen Jones (wife of William Jones).
Title: Re: Albert Whetton born abt 1876 in Measham, Derbyshire, England
Post by: Annette7 on Tuesday 20 March 18 03:09 GMT (UK)
The Albert Joseph Whetton who died in 1954 Burton upon Trent does indeed appear to be your man - he was born as plain Albert Whetton  (recorded by GRO as Whetten), mmn Dennis, in Mar.qtr.1876 Ashby de la Zouch.   

Does not look as if he ever married but did find:

Albert Joseph Whetton of 92 High Street, Measham died 27th March 1954 at The Infirmary, Burton upon Trent.   Administration (with will) Leicester 19 June to Doris Ellen Jones (wife of William Jones).  Effects £3960 15s 10d.

As I go to post Jomot beat me to it but will still do so as explains who Doris Ellen was.

Have established that Doris Ellen was his niece, dau. of his younger brother Arthur.   She was born 18/8/1904, married William A O Jones in 1929, died 1978.

Annette
Title: Re: Albert Whetton born abt 1876 in Measham, Derbyshire, England
Post by: Chiad Fhear on Tuesday 20 March 18 08:10 GMT (UK)
Good morning Jomot, Annette Trish and Stitchwitch. Greetings from sunny Fife

Your efforts have completely demolished the brick wall that was Albert Whetton - subsequently Albert Joseph Whetton  :)

Albert's niece ... DORIS ELLEN WHETTON (Dolly), b. 18 Aug 1904, Measham, near Atherstone, Leicestershire, England; d. Bet. Apr - Jun 1978, Coalville, Leicestershire, England; m. WILLIAM ARTHUR ORTON JONES, Bet. Jul - Aug 1929, Ashby de la Zouch, Leicestershire, England; b. 11 Mar 1901, Smisby, Derbyshire, England; d. Jan 1985, Coalville, Leicestershire, England

I am no longer in doubt that this is the correct ALBERT.

Many thanks for your help.

Chiad Fhear
Title: Re: Albert Whetton born abt 1876 in Measham, Derbyshire, England
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 21 March 18 07:46 GMT (UK)
Excellent result ;D
Title: Re: Albert Whetton born abt 1876 in Measham, Derbyshire, England
Post by: diddymiller on Wednesday 21 March 18 19:49 GMT (UK)

So pleased following this thread that Leics (my corner of the world)  has come up trumps as Chiad has helped me numerous times on the Fife board!!


Diddy  :D
Title: Re: Albert Whetton born abt 1876 in Measham, Derbyshire, England
Post by: stitchwitch on Wednesday 21 March 18 23:13 GMT (UK)
Sorted!  ;D 8) ;D 8)