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Well, as it turns out, I'm going on vacation to England mid June, and thought of spending a few days in the area where my paternal lineage is from. Incredibly, I found a Air BandB right in the center of my search area, Kilham, UK.
Here is my question to you: What are the possibilities of finding out what parcel of land my Great-Great-Great-Grandpa came from, and more importantly, how to go about it?
The only definite document i have, other than those that I have dug up via research at Ancestry.ca) is his prorate that I purchased.
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I am positive this is the same John Pinder that is in my family tree. It's content matches up with the correct names of his son's and daughters, as well as his son-in-law which married Mary Pinder, Stephen Bennison. The problem is of course, it details much of what is being willed to whom, but not where this property is.
Herein is what I know about John Pinder.
May have been born & Baptized on the 29th July in Snaith, Yorkshire .
Documents have him as John Pindar).
Married 11 Dec. in Kilham to Jane Beilby (1725-1804)
Had three sons & 3 daughters;
John (1749-1843) Named in will as an executor. Also named as the eldest son in the Will
William (1752-1826) Named in will as an executor
Robert (1758-1830)
Mary (1760-1844) Married Stephen Bennison named in Will)
Jane (1761-1796)
Ann (1765-1766)
This is what I know, or have been able to research so far.
Is there any way I could figure out exactly where in Kilham their farm might have been?
I understand that Kilham was a parish, am I correct ? It might not necessarily referring to the village, but I would expect it to be in the immediate area, no?
Anyways, would love any assistance in this matter!
Thanks in advance,
Stephen Pinder
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Kilham was in the East Riding of Yorkshire.
So it's probably best to start at the East Riding Archives?
They are at Treasure House, Champney Road, Beverley.
http://www2.eastriding.gov.uk/leisure/archives-family-and-local-history/visiting-us/
It's about 26 miles from Beverley to Kilham.
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Some thoughts.
Have you seen all the baptisms and burial entries in the actual parish register?
It might only state of 'Kilham', but you might just strike lucky with some other detail.
Familysearch have them here https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/558427?availability=Family%20History%20Library
You should be able to view them - you need to register with an account (free and painless!).
Have you found the son John, born 1749, died 1843 in the 1841 Census? It may give you where he was living. As eldest son he may have inherited the family home.
I see there are searchable Land Tax records for West Yorkshire on-line, but can't find any for East Yorkshire (a very quick search - you may like to dig a bit deeper). Perhaps this is one of the things you could find out at East Riding Archives.
They have an on-line catalogue you might like to search
http://www2.eastriding.gov.uk/leisure/archives-family-and-local-history/online-catalogue/
Good luck! and enjoy Yorkshire :)
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It is some distance from Snaith to Kilham - do you know why he moved?
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I always find genuki is a very good site to look at especially if you don't know the area you are hoping to research
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ERY/Kilham
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I agree with Goldie, that you should try to view originals of all bmds as you may find they give the abode or address at the time.
Maybe tithe maps? :-\
A related thread here, which may provide some background information:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=773257.0
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Quickly skimmed that thread - no proof that he was the man baptised or born in Snaith.
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Thank you so much for all your help. Definitely a lot to go with. I wish I had more time to spend in and around Kilham so I'm going to have to do as much research before getting to the East Riding Archives in Beverly. (Actually, that is also where my Great-Great grandfather (Stephen Pinder - 1803-1882) married his wife, Mary Ann Coulson (1806-1886) in 1835 . This will help enormously. Chempat, you are correct.. His birth in Snaith is far from certain. Pinning down his place and date of birth has been elusive.. Regarding a Wills, that is another step I need to investigate. The land was passed down to the elder son, John Pinder (1749-1843). He in turn had a son, Stephen (1803-1882), his eldest. Stephen emigrated to Canada.. maybe he inherited, or maybe he didn't . Where do you suggest I go to search for Wills and probates for the Kilham region?
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The land was passed down to the elder son, John Pinder (1749-1843).
Where did John die? I can't find anyone of correct age on GRO index (covering England and Wales) who died around 1843 nor can I find a John Pinder in his nineties on the 1841 census.
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The registration district would be Driffield
There is a death for John Pinder in 1843 aged 44 yrs.
He is probably John Pinder married to Alice and living in Kilham in 1841 1214/23/9
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The registration district would be Driffield
There is a death for John Pinder in 1843 aged 44 yrs.
He is probably John Pinder married to Alice and living in Kilham in 1841 1214/23/9
Yes, i have found him, also an image of his gravestone, confirming his wife was Alice.
But no John in his nineties.
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There's a burial on 3 Dec 1823 for a John Pinder age 74, looks like the one born in 1749.
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Wouldn't the tithe map pinpoint the farm pretty exactly?
EDIT: Oops ruskie beat me to it
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Where did John snr get his property from, perhaps he was left it by a relative or it came through his wife's family. Maybe mentioned in an earlier will which describes it more clearly.
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The marriage record of John snr to Jane Beilby (sic) describes him as a carpenter and spells his name Pindar.
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Herein is what I know about John Pinder.
May have been born & Baptized on the 29th July in Snaith, Yorkshire .
Documents have him as John Pindar).
Married 11 Dec. in Kilham to Jane Beilby (1725-1804)
Had three sons & 3 daughters;
John (1749-1843) Named in will as an executor. Also named as the eldest son in the Will
William (1752-1826) Named in will as an executor
Robert (1758-1830)
Mary (1760-1844) Married Stephen Bennison named in Will)
Jane (1761-1796)
Ann (1765-1766)
Ann Pinder is mentioned in the will (written 1785) so cannot have died as an infant. She gets a guinea like her two sisters and brother Robert. She is not described as wife of anyone so assume she is still single at the date of the will.
There is a marriage of an Ann Pinder in Kilham on 7 Aug 1794, she is described as daughter of John Pinder the elder, farmer. The bridegroom is John Sharp of Kilham bachelor and farmer. John Sharp signs, Ann makes her mark. witnesses Stephen Bennison and John Pinder, both witnesses sign. Marriage by licence granted by A Hobson, surrogate.
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John and Ann Sharp had a son Robert in 1795 but he died shortly after. Then another son George born and bapt on 2nd May and died and buried on 3rd May 1797. Ann died on 10th May and was buried on 12th May - very sad.
John Sharp remarried in 1805
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You raised questions more than I have answers to! Lol. The date of birth, and location for John Pindar Sr (1716/Snaith), is pretty iffy. I cannot track the source at this point.. His death (1797) I am pretty confident with. That Will pretty much confirms the whole Pinder tree after that point. But I cannot find anything regarding his birth date or place. There is another John Pindar from Snaith, that may or may not be his father.. but I do not want to check that out at this point..
How did John Pindar Sr. get the land.. inherited from father or wife, I do not know.
If I have not seen all the baptisms and burial entries in the actual parish register?: Actually, I did not know they existed and where until yesterday.. And I'm still not sure how to get to them ..
"Have you found the son John, born 1749, died 1843 in the 1841 Census?" I find nothing for the 1841 census. Most hits I get are for West Yorkshire.
I'm digging into the leads everyone so generously provided, but I have question regarding one of them provided by Ruskie: You mentioned "tithe" maps.. where would I find them and are they accessible?
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FindMyPast has images of parish registers from Kilham and some BTs, but you would need a sub. It has some transcripts of marriage licences.
There is a burial of a Jonathan Pinder yeoman in Kilham in 1742 and I have come across a Jonathan Pinder jnr in Burton Agnes, but he and his wife Elizabeth don't seem to have a son John. They had a Jonathan in 1720 but he died in 1721
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Jonathan P was buried 3 May 1742 and Elizabeth Pinder widow married Thomas Raine of Rudston in November 1742. Could she be Jonathan's widow and the couple who were baptising children in the 1720's in Burton Agnes?
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The Sharp branch is indeed a sad story. Kind of reminds you how difficult they had it back then.
Right now, I really want to concentrate on what and where that family farm is. I want to plant my feet in the soil (present owners permitting) and say "I'm home" :)
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Map of Kilham about 1900 several farms named.
http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=18&lat=54.0647&lon=-0.3843&layers=168&b=1
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Looks like what you need will be at Beverley
DDX2003/8/1-55
including
Item
Finding No DDX2003/8/12
Extent 1 item
Title Declaration of Matthew Lamplugh of Kilham, yeoman
Date 5 Apr 1855
Description He declares that he is 82 years of age and has resided in Kilham all his life. He is well acquainted with the farmhouse and farm at Kilham containing 127 acres, recently agreed to be sold by Miss Newton to William Lamplugh, and occupied by George Hardy. The first owner he can remember was Foord Newton, then Isaac Newton, then William Newton who took the name Watson, and then his sister Jane Newton. Christopher Lamplugh was a cousin of my late father, was the first tenant he can remember, then John Pinder, then William Newton and then George Hardy, who has been the occupier for 35 years. Believes that Christopher Lamplugh was tenant of the farm at the time of the Kilham Inclosure.
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And this should be more than enough
zDDX2003 - BLAKESTONS, SOLICITORS, DRIFFIELD, RECORDS
8 - Farm at Kilham, deeds
Level Item
Finding No DDX2003/8/15
Extent 1 item
Title Abstract of title of Miss Jane Newton to an estate at Kilham contracted to be sold to Mr William Lamplugh
Date 1855
Description Contains details of transactions 1633-1855
AccessStatus Open
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censuses often give sizes of farms - 127 acres might be a clue to finding it.
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1851 2366/612/3
George Hardy is a farmer of 150 acres - address West Street, Kilham
All farms seem to just have West Street as an address. The map posted earlier shows this also.
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including Matthew Lamplugh jnr farmer of 320 acres. Matthew Lamplugh snr who was 82 in 1855 lived on Middle street next to George pinder (tailor)
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Woah .. do I ever have questions!
Sorry, but I'm out of my water here...
- Stevie, when you say "Looks like what you need will be at Beverley" followed by "DDX2003/8/1-55
& DDX2003/8/12" I'm assuming you are referring to records at the Treasure House, Champney Road, Beverley? The numbers are specific file or documents?
-How in the world did you access them so quick?? You live in their basement :)
So, John Pinder was never the owner of the land, just a tenant? In 1855 it was owned by a Miss Newton and sold to a William Lamplugh? .
So John Pinder was replaced as a tenant by... William Newton? Bit confused here.
- By figuring out if John Hardy sold the land, or kept it in his family, I could locate the property?
- Lizzie, given your last entry.. the farm, or at least the farm house should be near Middle Street?
There is a George Pinder that I know of.. That would be the son of John Pinder & Alice Leadley . He was born in 1821 D 1887. The 1861 has him as a "Master Tailor" And wouldn't you know it.. the address is very difficult to read.. I'm thinking it says Baptist Lane, but I might be way off
And in the 1871 census, If I have the right one, he's living in Southcoates, district 5. Occupation is listed as Tailor. In 1881 he's still in Southcoates, lisited as a grocer and tailor. Anyways, i'm getting sidetracked with George here..
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Woah .. do I ever have questions!
Sorry, but I'm out of my water here...
- Stevie, when you say "Looks like what you need will be at Beverley" followed by "DDX2003/8/1-55
& DDX2003/8/12" I'm assuming you are referring to records at the Treasure House, Champney Road, Beverley? The numbers are specific file or documents?
-How in the world did you access them so quick?? You live in their basement :)
There's an online catalogue :)
If you go to the East Riding Archives site, go to the catalogue and search for John Pinder Kilham you should see an entry for Farm in Kilham, deeds or similar with 55 records. You would use the DDX reference to look at the original docs at Beverley.
If one of them doesn't have a precise map, I'd be amazed.
Even then, they also seem to have the Kilham tithe map (probably created in the 1830s) which should be massive showing numbered plots of land whose owners and occupiers can then be referenced in the Tithe Apportionment file.
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So, John Pinder was never the owner of the land, just a tenant? In 1855 it was owned by a Miss Newton and sold to a William Lamplugh? .
So John Pinder was replaced as a tenant by... William Newton? Bit confused here.
Yes, That's what it looks like to me
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Yet, he still had a Will, despite only being a tenant?
Regarding accessing the archives on line at the East Riding Archives site: It doesn't look like I can do that. You must register, but it seems it's only open to UK citizens (I'm Canadian), with valid british postal codes.. Oh the pain....
EDIT: Never mind.. I kinda cheated
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Yet, he still had a Will, despite only being a tenant?
Regarding accessing the archives on line at the East Riding Archives site: It doesn't look like I can do that. You must register, but it seems it's only open to UK citizens (I'm Canadian), with valid british postal codes.. Oh the pain....
EDIT: Never mind.. I kinda cheated
I would email them and ask if you can register. As I see it, it does not preclude non British people its just the software they have used uses the postcode file to identify addresses. I doubt they have not encountered this before and already have an answer, but if that is not the case and you are the first then you could be a trendsetter ;)
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Yet, he still had a Will, despite only being a tenant?
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Yet, he still had a Will, despite only being a tenant?
Being a tenant didn't preclude him from making a will.
I have some very wealthy 'tenants' in my ancestry who left plenty of wills.
It just means he rented the land. In some parts of England, they had almost permanent leases from the local big-wig who owned the land, and even passed on these leases in their wills.
A will states who the testator wants to leave other things to, and might include provision for the wife (as an annuity), or for children under 21. Anything really that was thought of as necessary or important. (Shakespeare famously left his 'second best bed' to his wife ............. ) :)
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I believe you are correct, Goldie. Looking at the Will once agin, there is no mention of land , dimensions acreage, etc.. There is also mention of him willing a "tenement or dwellinghouse" to his eldest son John. The word "tenement" is significant.
Regarding searching for "John Pinder(ar) Kilham" at the East Riding Archives site , I must admit it's been somewhat frustrating. I only get a limited number of his (19 to be exact). No idea to get to documents re. tithes etc...... Bit at a loss.
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Yes, there are 19 hits
Find the one titled Declaration of Matthew Lamplugh of Kilham, yeoman
Click on DDX2003/8/12 to the left of it
Click on Finding number DDX2003/8/12
should show the full list of 55 docs
1 - Copy probate will of Peter Berriman of Kilham, yeoman
2 - Receipt for £505 of William Newton the purchaser of Lot 18 of estates devised under the will of Sir Christopher Sykes baronet
3 - Copy probate of the will and codicil of Peter Berriman of Kilham, gentleman
4 - Copy receipts for legacies in the will of William Watson
5 - Inland Revenue, Legacy receipt relating to Ann Barker
6 - Inland Revenue, Legacy receipt relating to Mary Mason
7 - Inland Revenue, Legacy receipt relating to Mary Craig
8 - Agreement relating to rebuilding of farmyard wall at Kilham
9 - Inland Revenue, Legacy receipt relating to Bessy Newton
10 - Inland Revenue, Legacy receipt relating to Mary Newton
11 - Inland Revenue, Legacy receipt relating to John Greenwell and Ann Greenwell, his wife
12 - Declaration of Matthew Lamplugh of Kilham, yeoman
13 - Declaration of Jane Newton of Wath House, Pickering Marishes, North Riding, spinster, relating to the Newton family
14 - Declaration of Jane Newton of Wath House, Pickering Marishes, North Riding, spinster, relating to the deaths of three children of Richard Hodgson
15 - Abstract of title of Miss Jane Newton to an estate at Kilham contracted to be sold to Mr William Lamplugh
16 - Memorandum of agreement relating to 4 cottages and gardens in Kilham
17 - Abstract of title of the trustees of the late Emanuel Lownsbrough to 4 cottages and premises at Kilham contracted to be sold to James Durham
18 - Inland Revenue, Residuary account of Emanuel Lowndsborough [Lownsbrough] of Kilham, yeoman
19 - Abstract of title of Ralph Creyke to an estate at Kilham and Rudston part of which is contracted to be sold to Francis Danby
20 - Plan of property lots 1-4 at Kilham
21 - Conveyance of a close of land at Kilham
22 - Abstract of title of Francis Danby to a close of land containing 21 acres 3 roods 10 perches at Kilham
23 - Abstract of title of Francis Danby to a close of land at Kilham
24 - Mortgage of a farmhouse and land at Kilham
25 - Mortgage of a close of land at Kilham
26 - Probate copy of the will of William Lyon of Tibthorpe, formerly Garton on the Wolds, publican
27 - Appointment of two new trustees of the will of Emanuel Lownsbrough of Kilham, yeoman, deceased
28 - Transfer of mortgage of a close of land at Kilham
29 - Extract from the will of Robert Holtby of Elmswell, gentleman
30 - Memorandum of an agreement to lease a grass field at Kilham
31 - Transfer of mortgage of a farmhouse and land at Kilham
32 - Schedule of title deeds relating to a farmhouse and land at Kilham belonging to Francis Danby and mortgaged to Robert Holtby
33 - Probate copy of the will of Esther Pape, wife of Henry Pape of Kilham, labourer
34 - Probate copy of the will of Henry Pape of Kilham, yeoman
35 - Conveyance of dwellinghouse, tenements and land at the west end of Kilham
36 - Mortgage of dwellinghouse, tenements and land at the west end of Kilham
37 - Mortgage of dwellinghouse, tenements and land at Kilham
38 - Memorandum of deposit of a conveyance relating to grassland at Kilham
39 - Extracts from the will of Bielby Topham of Bainton, farmer
40 - Transfer of mortgage of dwellinghouse, tenements and land at the west end of Kilham
41 - Abstract of title of Francis Danby to a dwellinghouse and land at Kilham
42 - Mortgage of closes of land and premises at Kilham
43 - Notice of second mortgage on farmhouse and lands in Kilham from the solicitors of William Harrison, Huttons Ambo, North Riding, farmer and tenant right valuer
44 - Notice of second mortgage on Townend Close, Kilham, from the solicitors of William Harrison, Huttons Ambo, North Riding, farmer and tenant right valuer
45 - Transfer of mortgage of close of land at Kilham
46 - Transfer of mortgage of messuage, farm and lands at Kilham
47 - Yorkshire Insurance Company fire policy relating to a farm situated at West End, Kilham
48 - Requisitions on title to property at Kilham from Danby's trustees to Wilson
49 - Particulars of search at East Riding Registry of Deeds
50 - Letter relating to estate duty on property on farm at Kilham
51 - Copy letters of administration for Thomas Wilson
52 - Inland Revenue, application for a certificate relating to payment of estate duty for a farm at Kilham
53 - Memorandum of deposit of title deeds relating to West End Farm, Kilham
54 - Abstract of title of the personal representative of Thomas Wilson, deceased, to a farm at Kilham, contracted to be sold to T H Wilson
55 - Abstract of title of the trustees of the will of Francis Danby to farmhouse, cottages and farm at Kilham
Click on any ones you fancy to see more details and an idea of the document dates
The reference for the actual tithe map can be found using kilham tithe map in a new search (ref is TA/16)
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Then we are on the same page.. I was able to retrieve the information you posted as well. Note that the 55 references do not mean there is a relevance or contains "pinder(ar) in them, right?
Final question, in DDX2003/8/12, if I ordered a copy, is there more information than is listed in the description Ie. (below) , or is that it?
"Description He declares that he is 82 years of age and has resided in Kilham all his life. He is well acquainted with the farmhouse and farm at Kilham containing 127 acres, recently agreed to be sold by Miss Newton to William Lamplugh, and occupied by George Hardy. The first owner he can remember was Foord Newton, then Isaac Newton, then William Newton who took the name Watson, and then his sister Jane Newton. Christopher Lamplugh was a cousin of my late father, was the first tenant he can remember, then John Pinder, then William Newton and then George Hardy, who has been the occupier for 35 years. Believes that Christopher Lamplugh was tenant of the farm at the time of the Kilham Inclosure."
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I'm going to guess not but who knows. To me it looks as though there's some kind of dispute and this is a witness statement
No not all the docs will reference John Pinder but remember your focus - the Lamplugh document pinpoints this as his farm and all it needs is one of the other docs to have a map e.g. the title deeds and then you can confidently visit the exact spot where he lived and breathed
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BTW I'm hoping it will turn out to be the AirBnB place you're staying at.
How cool would that be??
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BTW I'm hoping it will turn out to be the AirBnB place you're staying at.
How cool would that be??
VERY cool! ;D
Stranger things have happened ............
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If I do find it, I do not think I will have to travel far.
https://onedrive.live.com/?cid=8CC4D18B45EBC227&id=8CC4D18B45EBC227%217587&parId=8CC4D18B45EBC227%215146&o=OneUp
I've already picked out the containers I will use to bring back a little bit of farm earth ! ;)
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There is no if but when.
I don't know how busy they are in Beverley but I'd bet money they'll be able to help you get to the right place if you have difficulty in locating it in the documents yourself
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I've tracked down a William Lamplugh. Seems to be married to a Margaret Danby. According to the 1851 census (Kilham, District 11a) he was approximately 61 years old, and If I read the "Rank, Profession or Occupation" entry correctly, he has 1,040 acres and employed 12 laborers. That's a lot of land! I'm hoping it's one large parcel. Still hunting .. will keep you posted.
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Man, these Lamplough's owned half of the county! Browsing through the 1851 census and there is:
- Matthew -77 (farmer),
- Matthew - 45 (Farmer w 330 acres and 10 labourers,
- Samuel - 30, Farmer 900 acres . Oh, and also employ's an Elizabeth Pinder (25) she is the daughter of John Pinder (1802-1842) & Alice Leadey (1802-1884) . (John being the son of John Pinder (1749-1843) & Mary Clark.
- Elizabeth- 66 Head of family
- James 28 Druggist and grocer ..
And a few more.. all dwelling between 87 and 115 Middle Street.
And this is a different branch of the Lamplough family from William, who in 1851 has 1,040 acres !
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Another piece of the puzzle. Feels like for every door I open, it's a room with another 5 doors.
Anyways, this seems to be the Will of William Watson dated Jan 1781. Not sure if it's the same William ( Newton) Watson mentioned in the Declaration of Matthew Lamplugh of Kilham, yeoman:
Finding No DDX2003/8/12 . Below, you will see there is a mention of a Jane Pinder. Could this be Jane (Beilby) Pinder, wife of John Pinder ? The dates aren't right.. John would still be alive at that time, so why mention Jane Pinder and not him? But it gives a very good description of where the land is situated.
Level Item
Finding No DDX2003/10/1
Extent 1 item
Title Copy probate of the will and codicil of William Watson of Kilham, yeoman
Date [31 Jul 1779]
Description Will dated 31 Jul 1779 Probate dated 2 Jan 1781 Bequests: My dwellinghouses and closes lying on south side of Kilham called Beck Closes or Lands and Clay Pit Close or Crosdale Dykes containing 59 acres farmed by Mathew Milner now occupied Peter Berriman in trust to Esther Watson, wife, until daughter Mary Watson reaches 21 years of age; then low room chamber and garret at east end of my house, which was occupied by Mars Cass and since by Jane Pinder, also one feather bed , bedding and furniture, 4 chairs, tea table, 2 large pewter dishes, 6 silver tea spoons marked 'S W', and an annuity of £10 to Esther Watson, wife; interest on £100 owed to Mary Rafton of Folkton, widow Witnesses: M Atkinson, E Ibbitson, Adam Ibbotson Codicil dated 21 Aug 1780 If his daughter should die before 21 years the property is bequeathed to Esther Watson, his wife
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Could be Jane Pinder the daughter. It doesn't say she was the tenant in 1779 when wiil was written, only that she was after Mars Cass. Jane married on 29 Dec 1774, but she could have been occupier before marriage
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I suspect it isn't the daughter. She married a Richard Gibson in 1774 (at 13 :o )
Might be a different Jane Pinder altogether. There seem to be a lot of them around back then.
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Just in, a reply from The Treasure House in Beverley.
Unfortunately the bottom line is that they cannot find any information that will pinpoint the location of the plot of land.
"Dear Stephen
Thank you for your enquiry.
We hold a transcript of the Kilham enclosure award of 1773 which lists Foord Newton as being allotted five pieces of land of the following acreages.
24 acres 16 perches
21 acres 35 perches
52 acres 3 roods 9 perches
170 acres 2 roods 7 perches
21 acres 3 roods 14 perches
There are also two areas of land in the centre of the village on the enclosure plan, with the name Newton on but no acreages which are possibly areas of ancient enclosure not mentioned in the 1773 award.
The only reference to the surname Lamplugh was for one piece of land with the following acreage to Jane Lamplugh
7 acres 3 roods 10 perches
I could find no apparent mention of a John Pinder or an 127 acre plot owned by a William Lamplugh.
We do hold a copy of a tithe plan for 1844 but it appears to be for land owned by Beaumont Hotham in the occupation of James Hall, no other names are listed and it only covers part of Kilham.
The Land Tax assessments for Kilham 1783, 1787-1798, 1800-30, 1832 refer to the Newtons as owning land and John Pinder occupying it at various points, the sum of assessment only changes once and then remains constant, showing it to be the same land.
In 1783 John Pinder occupies land owned by the Reverend James Rudd for which the assessment sum is 9 shillings, the executors of Foord Newton have land occupied by Christopher Lamplough for which the assessment sum is 18 shillings.
By 1787 Isaac Newton is the owner and John Pinder the occupier, with the assessment sum of 18 shillings. This stays the same in 1788. From 1789 through to 1801 Isaac Newton and John Pinder are listed with an assessment sum of £1.4s.7d.
In 1802 the heirs of Isaac Newton and John are listed and from 1803-1816 Mrs Newton and John. From 1818-1820 Robert Newton is listed and John has disappeared. John reappears between 1822 and 1825.
In 1821 and from 1826-1830 Robert Newton is listed with George Hardy as an occupier. The assessment rate has stayed at £1.4s.7d.
Unfortunately this Land Tax does not list the acreages of the land being assessed. It appears to show father and sons occupation periods, but unfortunately we do not have a plan which identifies the plot.
I hope this is of some help and interest.
Kind regards"