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Title: Alex'r Nicholson shoemaker Edinburgh & Glasgow
Post by: Gortinanima on Tuesday 20 March 18 10:15 GMT (UK)
Trying to locate the whereabouts of Alexander Nicholson shoemaker and his wife Jane Dempsey/Dempster after 1868 --

I have the following
1853 Alex Nicholson & Jane Dempsey married Co Down Ireland
1855 Eleanor dau died St Gile's Edinburgh
1856 Joseph son baptised RC Edinburgh St Patrick's
1858 Ellen dau baptised RC St Mary's Edinburgh
1859 Joseph son died Canongate 1859
1861 Alex'r Nicholson census Cannongate Edinburgh aged 38 journeyman shoemaker born Ire lodger in house of Jane McCilraith widow aged 35 (where are rest of his family?)
1863 Joseph Nicholson son born Clyde Burgh of Glasgow
1868 William Nicholson dies Carlton Glasgow aged 2.

The latter (1868) is the last sighting of family that I have - cannot locate in census returns after this so need help.

Did Alexander Nicholson & his wife Jane die in Scotland (have searched for Alexander Nicholson death on Scotland's People without success).
Did the family emigrate or return to Ireland?

Any help gratefully received --

Bob
Title: Re: Alex'r Nicholson shoemaker Edinburgh & Glasgow
Post by: middlesbrough on Tuesday 20 March 18 10:42 GMT (UK)
1871 census
44 cranston st, barony, anderston, lanarkshire
Alexander  44 shoemaker
Jane 44 seamster
John 27
Elizabeth 23
David 18
Agnes 10
Joseph 8
Title: Re: Alex'r Nicholson shoemaker Edinburgh & Glasgow
Post by: middlesbrough on Tuesday 20 March 18 10:47 GMT (UK)
1881 census
Alexander 58 shoemaker
Jane 57 shirtmaker at home
Joseph 18
James jamieso  grandson 14 message boy

67 elliott st, barony, anderston
Title: Re: Alex'r Nicholson shoemaker Edinburgh & Glasgow
Post by: middlesbrough on Tuesday 20 March 18 10:57 GMT (UK)
1891
Frimieston st, barony, anderston
Jane widow 65
Joseph 27 shipyard labourer

Alexander must have died between 1881 and 1891.
I will keep looking
Title: Re: Alex'r Nicholson shoemaker Edinburgh & Glasgow
Post by: Gortinanima on Tuesday 20 March 18 16:40 GMT (UK)
 ;D ;D You are a star - thank you!
Title: Re: Alex'r Nicholson shoemaker Edinburgh & Glasgow
Post by: MonicaL on Tuesday 20 March 18 19:29 GMT (UK)
There is a possible death for a 65 yr old Jane Dempster/Nicolson in the Anderston area of Glasgow in 1896.

Just a few possibilities for a death for Alexander in the Glasgow area between 1881-91 - this is good! Would be worth checking? For example, an Alexander Nicholson aged 68 died in 1889 in the Dennistoun area of Glasgow.

Monica  :)

Added: The Dennistoun death I don't think is the correct one. There is a Will entry on SP which states that this Alexander was a boilermaker living at 6 Annfield Place, Dennistoun.
Title: Re: Alex'r Nicholson shoemaker Edinburgh & Glasgow
Post by: ev on Tuesday 20 March 18 19:47 GMT (UK)
Alexander Nicholson , 67 Elliot Street Barony , on the 1885 Valuation Roll.


ev
Title: Re: Alex'r Nicholson shoemaker Edinburgh & Glasgow
Post by: middlesbrough on Tuesday 20 March 18 21:32 GMT (UK)
Possible death of Alexander Nicholson in 1884 at Anderston. Age of 51 is out by a few years but still worth looking at.
Title: Re: Alex'r Nicholson shoemaker Edinburgh & Glasgow
Post by: MonicaL on Tuesday 20 March 18 22:07 GMT (UK)
Agree with you, middlesbrough. That is the only other possibility in Glasgow isn't it.  There is another entry with the same details, except in the Kelvin area of Glasgow. Made me think that he died not at home and maybe death registered in two areas.

As always, would need to be checked.

Monica
Title: Re: Alex'r Nicholson shoemaker Edinburgh & Glasgow
Post by: Annette7 on Wednesday 21 March 18 02:26 GMT (UK)
Alexander Nicholson did indeed die Anderston - shown 51 - died 5/1/1884 at 67 Elliot Street, Glasgow - shoemaker - married to Jane Dempster.    He died of Bronchitis  2 months, informant his widow Jane.   His parents are shown as John Nicholson, tailor, and Elizabeth McLune (?hard to read), both deceased.

Annette
Title: Re: Alex'r Nicholson shoemaker Edinburgh & Glasgow
Post by: Gortinanima on Wednesday 21 March 18 06:51 GMT (UK)
That is fantastic - thankyou  :)
Title: Re: Alex'r Nicholson shoemaker Edinburgh & Glasgow
Post by: Forfarian on Wednesday 21 March 18 09:06 GMT (UK)
Made me think that he died not at home and maybe death registered in two areas.
This does worry me slightly.

Bisset-Smith's Vital Registration says, "The practical rule is that all deaths are registered in the parish or district in which they occurred, irrespective of their residence".

Unlike births, where the law provided that a child born in a district other than that where the parents normally lived should be registered in the both the district of birth and the district of the parents' residence, there was no provision for the same to be done when someone died in a district other than that of their residence. (I know, it seems very illogical that out-of-district births were to be registered twice, but not out-of-district deaths!)

Therefore, assuming both Registrars were following the procedures laid down, there should never be two registrations of the same death.

However these do look almost identical - both registered in the very first few days of 1884. Has anyone looked at the Kelvin one?