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Title: Tracing Death Details For Abraham Heyes Of Leigh In Lancashire
Post by: George Shaw on Wednesday 21 March 18 19:50 GMT (UK)
Abraham Heyes was born in Leigh c. 1800 and married Mary Ann Tickle in 1822 again in Leigh. The couple had a few children whilst in Leigh, one of them, Margaret, getting married in Leigh in 1856 to Stephen Langshaw. The marriage record names Abraham Heyes (brewer) as the father, so it seems that he died after 1856. However, I can't find details of Abraham's death or burial and would welcome any help you can offer.
Title: Re: Tracing Death Details For Abraham Heyes Of Leigh In Lancashire
Post by: iluleah on Wednesday 21 March 18 19:54 GMT (UK)
Maybe
Deaths Dec 1865 
Hayes    Abraham         Leigh    8c   110
Title: Re: Tracing Death Details For Abraham Heyes Of Leigh In Lancashire
Post by: hanes teulu on Wednesday 21 March 18 20:13 GMT (UK)
The General Register Office shows age at death = 0 for Abraham Hayes. A funeral notice in the local paper puts his age at 14 weeks.
Title: Re: Tracing Death Details For Abraham Heyes Of Leigh In Lancashire
Post by: George Shaw on Wednesday 21 March 18 20:22 GMT (UK)
Maybe
Deaths Dec 1865 
Hayes    Abraham         Leigh    8c   110

Hi. Checked that out earlier today in the Leigh Cemetery burials record....it refers to a young boy.
Title: Re: Tracing Death Details For Abraham Heyes Of Leigh In Lancashire
Post by: George Shaw on Wednesday 21 March 18 20:23 GMT (UK)
The General Register Office shows age at death = 0 for Abraham Hayes. A funeral notice in the local paper puts his age at 14 weeks.

That concurs with my findings.  :)
Title: Re: Tracing Death Details For Abraham Heyes Of Leigh In Lancashire
Post by: iluleah on Wednesday 21 March 18 20:46 GMT (UK)
Well that is one off the list, also another in 1870 in Bolton area who was 0 yrs, that leave 10 others of the same/similar name between 1856 and 1864 who died in Lancs........ although of course he could have died anywhere and the death will be registered where he died
Title: Re: Tracing Death Details For Abraham Heyes Of Leigh In Lancashire
Post by: hanes teulu on Wednesday 21 March 18 20:47 GMT (UK)
Bolton Chronicle 11 Mar 1843
DEATHS - On the 4th instant, age 43 years, Mary Ann, wife of Mr Abraham Heyes, Bedford near Leigh

FindMyPast burials
Abraham Heyes, age 49, burial 18 Jan 1847, burial place Winwick, St Oswald (Lancaster), residence Bedford, parish of Leigh

Worth checking out? 
Title: Re: Tracing Death Details For Abraham Heyes Of Leigh In Lancashire
Post by: hanes teulu on Wednesday 21 March 18 20:58 GMT (UK)
The GRO confirms age as 49, registered Leigh Union
Title: Re: Tracing Death Details For Abraham Heyes Of Leigh In Lancashire
Post by: lancsann on Wednesday 21 March 18 22:24 GMT (UK)
It is no guarantee on a marriage certificate that a deceased father would be described as such. If the registrar just asked for father’s name that might just be what he recorded.
Title: Re: Tracing Death Details For Abraham Heyes Of Leigh In Lancashire
Post by: Bookbox on Wednesday 21 March 18 22:53 GMT (UK)
Is this the same Abraham Heyes whose will (proved 1847) has been posted in another thread?
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=790236.msg6460585
Title: Re: Tracing Death Details For Abraham Heyes Of Leigh In Lancashire
Post by: George Shaw on Thursday 22 March 18 10:50 GMT (UK)
Is this the same Abraham Heyes whose will (proved 1847) has been posted in another thread?
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=790236.msg6460585

It is. The Will (attached to that thread) has a codicil attached dated 1849....otherwise a 1847 death for Abraham might be compelling.
Title: Re: Tracing Death Details For Abraham Heyes Of Leigh In Lancashire
Post by: Bookbox on Thursday 22 March 18 11:07 GMT (UK)
Is this the same Abraham Heyes whose will (proved 1847) has been posted in another thread?
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=790236.msg6460585

It is. The Will (attached to that thread) has a codicil attached dated 1849....otherwise a 1847 death for Abraham might be compelling.

From the will itself ...

It was written on 14 April 1840.
The codicil was added on 23 April 1845.***
The will was first proved in Chester on 10 July 1847.
The will was proved again in the PCC on 18 April 1849.

I think you can be confident that the 1847 death/burial records found above are correct.

*** ADDED - I think you may have been misled by the codicil of the preceding will in the register (for Jane Handley), part of which you included in your transcript.
Title: Re: Tracing Death Details For Abraham Heyes Of Leigh In Lancashire
Post by: George Shaw on Thursday 22 March 18 11:34 GMT (UK)
Thanks to all for your help. I must admit that reading all of the evidence so far suggests a compelling case for a 1847 death and burial.