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Research in Other Countries => Canada => Canada Lookup Request => Topic started by: bobtonks on Friday 23 March 18 11:03 GMT (UK)
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Harold Joseph Brown was born in Impington, nr Cambridge, England in 1897 to Fred and Ada Brown.
There is a death record of Harold Joseph Brown in British Columbia 1980, age 83.
There is a record, 18th May 1917 in the Cambridge paper, that Pte Harold Brown, of the Canadians, was wounded and was the son of Fred Brown.
Is this the same Harold J Brown that died in 1980? Can anyone find any other information, marriage etc, of Harold?
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there are attestation papers dated 1 march 1916 for a harold joseph brown single baker born 23 dec 1896 histon cambridgeshire son of fred brown histon cambridgeshire
residence killarney manitoba canada.
lost the capitals excuse the small letters.
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birth is a year out but same date - find a grave site names spouse as mildred irene brown.
mildred irene setter brown - 7 dec 1902 - 1997
marriage 1930 but can't see more details
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Death cert:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01lsf/
from:
http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Genealogy
Maureen
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Thank you for looking. I printed the death certificate and it is most certainly him. (his mother was Ada Louisa Christmas).
I couldn't find the attestation details or marriage details. I wonder if they had any children.
FTR. Harold was one of 12 (twelve) children and in 1901 lived in a 2 down / 2 up terraced cottage in Impington. The house is still there.
Thanks again
Bob
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If you go to:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01lsh/
and enter his name in the search box (he's the one born 23/12/1896) you can not only see his attestation papers but also download his service file.
Maureen
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Just wanted to see if this link works for anyone:
https://newspaperarchive.com/winnipeg-free-press-apr-17-1972-p-14/
(obit for Frank MacDonald BROWN who appears to be a brother of Harold.)
Maureen
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Find a Grave for Harold and wife:
https://old.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=159532352
Maureen
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Maureen
Thank you for your help. I managed to access the obituary for Frank, which also gave me the name of his wife, Ina W Phippen, although I can't find when they were married.
There was another brother, Oliver John Brown 1901, The obituary indicates that he is in England but I can't find him anywhere. I've found the rest of the family.
Is there information of when the two brothers emigrated to Canada?
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For Frank's marriage use:
https://vitalstats.gov.mb.ca/Query.php
Just enter Ina Phippen-it's easier.
Frank arrived in Canada (Quebec) 19 Jun 1927 on board the Doric. A 23 yr old baker going to brother Harold Brown in Killarney,Manitoba.
Thought you might like this article:
http://cottagebakery-cafe.com/
Have to go out now.
Maureen
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Maureen
The link took me to the ships departure !0th June. Travelling with Frank was his brother Guy B Brown who I thought was living in England in 1939 and marrying there in 1940. !!! Did he go and then come back?
The bread shop was interesting ... thank you.
Bob
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Hi Bob,
Back again.
Good catch on Guy! Yes,he does go back to the UK from Quebec, Canada
Arrival date: 9 Dec 1935
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Quebec
Ship Name: Ausonia
Brother Oliver John is a little tough to track. He goes to Canada (along with Harold-who somehow has gone back to England and is returning to Canada) on 20 Feb 1926
Port of Departure: Southampton, England
Destination Port: Halifax, Canada
Ship Name: Zeeland.
If you can see the outward manifest-right at the bottom of the page is a Nellie Woolnough.
Oliver marries her :
https://vitalstats.gov.mb.ca/Query.php
Place of Marriage: KILLARNEY
Date of Marriage: 07/07/1928
Next time I see them is in Chicago Illinois for the birth of a son:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVPH-1JKK
His (the son) obituary is here:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01lss/
1930 US census for the family:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSTF-1QX
Maureen
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Thanks again for your help.
I found Oliver & Harold 1926. Harold must have gone to Canada (the first time) between 1911, when he was living in Impington, and when he returned to England with the Canadians in WW1. He presumably stayed until 1926 when he went back to Canada with his brother.
I foundOliver's marriage, and their son David, but I couldn't find the record of Guy retuning in 1935.
Bob
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This looks like Harold's first arrival:
Harold J Brown
Gender: Male
Age: 17
Birth Year: abt 1896
Birth Country: England
Vessel: Empress of Ireland
Date of Arrival: 1 Mar 1913
Port of Arrival: St Johns, Newfoundland, Canada
Says he's going to Killarney,MB
Guy's return is listed as Guy Barnett Brown age 25 no occupation going to College Road Histon.
Maureen