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Title: Horace Edward Coppard
Post by: nenepops on Sunday 25 March 18 14:07 BST (UK)
I have the above born 1919 and was married to a Hannah Mary Hughes in Carmarthen. I see he died 1978.
They had two children,I cannot locate his parents and family. Would anybody be able to help me please.
Title: Re: Horace Edward Coppard
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 25 March 18 14:24 BST (UK)
Only one I can find;

Birth Reg;
June 1918
Coppard,  Horace, Bromley,  2a 863, Mothers mn WEEDON

Have you looked for him on the 1939 Register on Findmypast?

Trish :)
Title: Re: Horace Edward Coppard
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 25 March 18 14:32 BST (UK)
Marriage Reg;
Sept 1909 Bromley, 2a 1205
Frederick Henry COPPARD and Ethel WEEDEN on same page

Birth reg is only 1 year out from Horaces Death Reg.
Title: Re: Horace Edward Coppard
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 25 March 18 14:48 BST (UK)
In last Census available look for Ethel Coppard born c 1884 St Mary Cray, Kent.

Title: Re: Horace Edward Coppard
Post by: nenepops on Sunday 25 March 18 15:08 BST (UK)
I can't find him on findmypast 1939. I know he is on there in 1942 on his marriage!!
Makes me curious why he ended up in Wales??
Title: Re: Horace Edward Coppard
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 25 March 18 15:32 BST (UK)
Horace may be in the Military 1939.
Cant find his Father in 1911 Census but he appears to remarry 1924 to Ellen K Barber (FreeBMD)

1939 Register has in Dartford, Kent;
Frederick H Coppard   1883
Ellen K Coppard
4 more people who are officially closed

Someone has a private Tree with the 1924 M/C mentioned.

It may be worth getting that 1942 M/C.

Trish :)

Title: Re: Horace Edward Coppard
Post by: nenepops on Sunday 25 March 18 15:42 BST (UK)
Thank you. This is a step closer.
Title: Re: Horace Edward Coppard
Post by: nenepops on Tuesday 24 July 18 14:51 BST (UK)
I wonder how he went from Bromley area to Wales. I can't find him anywhere? ???
Title: Re: Horace Edward Coppard
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 25 July 18 12:52 BST (UK)
 I can't find him anywhere?

Do you mean Horace?

He wouldn't be on the 1911 Census as not born yet. 1939 Register he may be in the Military.
Title: Re: Horace Edward Coppard
Post by: nenepops on Wednesday 25 July 18 15:00 BST (UK)
Yes Horace is who I mean?  I can't find him anywhere either ???
Title: Re: Horace Edward Coppard
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 25 July 18 15:06 BST (UK)
As Trish said he would be too late for 1911 and possibly in the forces for WW2.  Perhaps that is how he met his future wife and ended up living in her home town.  Have you found the wife in 1939
Title: Re: Horace Edward Coppard
Post by: nenepops on Wednesday 25 July 18 15:12 BST (UK)
Ah no I haven't actually.
Title: Re: Horace Edward Coppard
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 25 July 18 15:28 BST (UK)
She is still on electoral registers in 2013 so we probably won't find her.
Title: Re: Horace Edward Coppard
Post by: nenepops on Wednesday 25 July 18 15:32 BST (UK)
If can't find Horace either in 1939!
Title: Re: Horace Edward Coppard
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 25 July 18 15:34 BST (UK)
I suspect he was probably in the forces unless you know different
Title: Re: Horace Edward Coppard
Post by: nenepops on Wednesday 25 July 18 15:38 BST (UK)
No I don't know different. Maybe I should research him being in the Forces then?
Title: Re: Horace Edward Coppard
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 25 July 18 16:08 BST (UK)
WW2 service records are still with the Ministry of Defence.  (Don't be tempted to sign up to websites that say they have them.)
Title: Re: Horace Edward Coppard
Post by: nenepops on Wednesday 25 July 18 16:15 BST (UK)
WW2 service records are still with the Ministry of Defence.  (Don't be tempted to sign up to websites that say they have them.)

Oh really? Thank you for the advice.
It’s so frustrating not knowing their next step or seeing him anywhere.
Title: Re: Horace Edward Coppard
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 25 July 18 16:18 BST (UK)
Do you have his marriage certificate
Title: Re: Horace Edward Coppard
Post by: Christine53 on Wednesday 25 July 18 16:25 BST (UK)
I think I've found him in 1939. If you look at the free search there is only one Horace Coppard and the free index says Horace E Weedon is at the same address. ( I logged out of FindMyPast to be sure of not giving any forbidden details . )
Title: Re: Horace Edward Coppard
Post by: nenepops on Wednesday 25 July 18 16:44 BST (UK)
Do you have his marriage certificate

No I don’t have his marriage certificate unfortunately.
Title: Re: Horace Edward Coppard
Post by: nenepops on Wednesday 25 July 18 16:45 BST (UK)
I think I've found him in 1939. If you look at the free search there is only one Horace Coppard and the free index says Horace E Weedon is at the same address. ( I logged out of FindMyPast to be sure of not giving any forbidden details . )

Ah wow that’s interesting. Is he in Wales or Kent if you don’t mind me asking?
Title: Re: Horace Edward Coppard
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 25 July 18 16:47 BST (UK)
You can do a free search of the 1939 and it will give the location for him though not the address.
Title: Re: Horace Edward Coppard
Post by: nenepops on Wednesday 25 July 18 16:56 BST (UK)
I can’t find him on there.
Born 1918/1919??
Title: Re: Horace Edward Coppard
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 25 July 18 17:05 BST (UK)
If you are using F M P just put Horace Coppard into the 1939 search - no more information

The record is still blacked out on Ancestry
Title: Re: Horace Edward Coppard
Post by: nenepops on Wednesday 25 July 18 17:28 BST (UK)
Ah ok I found him in 1939 but obviously not the address.
Thank you.
I wonder why or how he went to Wales?
Title: Re: Horace Edward Coppard
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 25 July 18 17:32 BST (UK)
You would probably need the marriage certificate.  It would confirm his abode and occupation at the time. 

As for why he went to Wales, was his wife born there or living there prior to their marriage. Maybe he had employment that took him there.
Title: Re: Horace Edward Coppard
Post by: mazi on Wednesday 25 July 18 18:02 BST (UK)
Other forums on this man say that his father filed for divorce in 1921, so he had a disturbed childhood. They also recommend the marriage certificate.

As a single man aged 20-22 he  may have been called into the reserve in late 1939, by 1942 he should be in the army, or medically unfit or in a reserved occupation. His occupation on his marriage cert. may provide a clue as to why he was in wales.

Carmarthen is a large reg. district and extends downward to more industrialised ares

Mike
Title: Re: Horace Edward Coppard
Post by: Ladyhawk on Wednesday 25 July 18 18:41 BST (UK)
Other forums on this man say that his father filed for divorce in 1921
Mike

For info.
The record has not been digitized and cannot be downloaded can only be viewed at Kew
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C8029870

sorry I've duplicated the info. above as I see you already have this from your previous post 
2015 Carmarthen
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=721582.0

I've added this link also so others don't duplicate info. you already have

2012 Ethel H Weeden from St Mary's Cray, Kent
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=607319.0



Title: Re: Horace Edward Coppard
Post by: nenepops on Monday 20 August 18 19:17 BST (UK)
Thank you for all your help and advice.
Title: Re: Horace Edward Coppard
Post by: Skyelar on Saturday 03 April 21 22:48 BST (UK)
I have the above born 1919 and was married to a Hannah Mary Hughes in Carmarthen. I see he died 1978.
They had two children,I cannot locate his parents and family. Would anybody be able to help me please.
hi I am his grand daughter
Title: Re: Horace Edward Coppard
Post by: nenepops on Sunday 10 October 21 12:44 BST (UK)
Hi Skyelar,

Was your grandfather Horace Coppard born in Kent?

Janene
Title: Re: Horace Edward Coppard
Post by: Skyelar on Sunday 10 October 21 14:34 BST (UK)
Hi. Yes he was. He was married to Hannah Mary Hughes my grandmother
Title: Re: Horace Edward Coppard
Post by: nenepops on Monday 11 October 21 19:10 BST (UK)
Hi. Yes he was. He was married to Hannah Mary Hughes my grandmother

I would love to know more.

I’ve sent you a private message.