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Title: Abigale Mansfield
Post by: bobtonks on Tuesday 27 March 18 14:55 BST (UK)
In 1839 James Peck married Ann Abigail Mansfield in Histon Cambridgeshire. Her father was recorded as John Mansfield. In the 1841 census her age is given as 20 (1821).

Can anyone see where she was born, her parents (John & ??) and her siblings?
Title: Re: Abigale Mansfield
Post by: Milliepede on Tuesday 27 March 18 15:57 BST (UK)
Is she alive in 1851?  That census entry should hopefully give a clearer indication of birthplace.
Title: Re: Abigale Mansfield
Post by: Milliepede on Tuesday 27 March 18 16:02 BST (UK)
I wonder why Essex is written for her in the final column of 1841 - is Essex considered a "foreign part"  :-X

Do you think it reads Essex or is it supposed to be something else like Ireland  :-\
Title: Re: Abigale Mansfield
Post by: avm228 on Tuesday 27 March 18 16:03 BST (UK)
Looks like she was buried as Ann Abigail Peck at Histon, 14 Jan 1848, aged 27.
Title: Re: Abigale Mansfield
Post by: Milliepede on Tuesday 27 March 18 16:08 BST (UK)
Little boy John Mansfield Peck baptised 19 Sep 1847 Histon
Title: Re: Abigale Mansfield
Post by: bobtonks on Tuesday 27 March 18 16:28 BST (UK)
Thanks for looking. Yes, she died 1948, and James married Alice Leet in 1950.

I didn't know about John Mansfield Peck, but it looks like he died 1848. Probably Abigail died in childbirth. Bit sad. I see what you mean re ESSEX in 1841. Usually they just put NO if out of county.

I  still can't find Abigail's mother or siblings.

Bob
Title: Re: Abigale Mansfield
Post by: LizzieL on Tuesday 27 March 18 17:17 BST (UK)
A John Mansfield wid of Gt Chishill married an Abigail Bush in Saffron Walden on 4 Oct 1813. Near Cambs border and mother called abigail - could be worth a look.
Title: Re: Abigale Mansfield
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 27 March 18 17:23 BST (UK)
According to Ann Abigails marriage her father John's occupation was a wheelwright.
Title: Re: Abigale Mansfield
Post by: jonw65 on Tuesday 27 March 18 18:23 BST (UK)
A John Mansfield wid of Gt Chishill married an Abigail Bush in Saffron Walden on 4 Oct 1813. Near Cambs border and mother called abigail - could be worth a look.

There's an Abigail Mansfield baptized Great Chishall, 25 April 1819
Parents John and Abigail. Father a Labourer
BT here
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9Q97-YSL3-C5W?i=677&cat=489671

Then a Thomas baptized to same parents in 1821
And a daughter Phoebe baptized June 1823. That one says John is a wheelwright (image 695)
Title: Re: Abigale Mansfield
Post by: LizzieL on Tuesday 27 March 18 18:56 BST (UK)
welll done. I found Abigail 1819, then OH wanted to be fed and have only just washed up from dinner and back to RC. This family in Gt Chishall look like they're the one. Can see Gt Chishill church from my back window, if only walls could talk.  ;D
Title: Re: Abigale Mansfield
Post by: bobtonks on Tuesday 27 March 18 21:37 BST (UK)
Gosh. Well done. .... I've been out to a Village Society meeting and came home to all this info .......maybe go out more often. Joking aside, the info is really helpful. There were lots of Mansfields in Histon/Impington where James and Ann Abigail were living in 1841 and assumed, (wrongly) that Ann Abigail was probably related to one of them.

And Gt Chishill is just up the road from Saffron Walden.

Thanks again.

Bob
Title: Re: Abigale Mansfield
Post by: LizzieL on Wednesday 28 March 18 08:27 BST (UK)
A John Mansfield wid of Gt Chishill married an Abigail Bush in Saffron Walden on 4 Oct 1813. Near Cambs border and mother called abigail - could be worth a look.

Will of Samuel Bush the elder, carpenter of Clavering 1817 leaves a bequest to his daughter Abigail Mansfield. Samuel has sons, Samuel, John and Joseph and two other daughters, Sarah Chesham and Elizabeth Bush. Presumably Elizabeth was unmarried when he made his will. If he named them in age order, Sarah was oldest, the Abigail and Elizabeth youngest.
Title: Re: Abigale Mansfield
Post by: LizzieL on Wednesday 28 March 18 08:36 BST (UK)
Will of William Bush carpenter of Clavering in 1816 mentions his father Samuel and brother John as executors, so Samuel the elder had another son who predeceased him. He leaves money to his siblings including Abigail.
Title: Re: Abigale Mansfield
Post by: LizzieL on Wednesday 28 March 18 08:47 BST (UK)
Abigail bapt 25 May 1788 (born 8 April) at Clavering d/o Samuel and Anna Bush
Title: Re: Abigale Mansfield
Post by: LizzieL on Wednesday 28 March 18 09:34 BST (UK)
Possible 1st marriage for John Mansfield
John Mansfield of Gt Chishill married Mary Kemp otp at Chrishall by Banns on 11 Nov 1805, both signed. Witnesses John Smith and John White Andrews.

A William Mansfield of Gt Chishall married Lydia Loveday at Chrishall on 19 January 1804. William signed Lydia mafe her mar. Wit Nash Kemp and Rebecca Kemp (both wit signed) Could be connected
Title: Re: Abigale Mansfield
Post by: bobtonks on Wednesday 28 March 18 10:27 BST (UK)
I tried to find details of the Will of William 1816 in FindMyPast, but although it's listed there is very little detail.

Thanks again for all your help

Bob
Title: Re: Abigale Mansfield
Post by: LizzieL on Wednesday 28 March 18 13:55 BST (UK)
John Mansfield s/o of William Mansfield of Great Chishill and his wife Ann was baptised at Heydon on 25 December 1783.
The will of William Mansfield of Gt Chishill mentions his wife was Ann.

Title: Re: Abigale Mansfield
Post by: LizzieL on Wednesday 28 March 18 14:25 BST (UK)
William Mansfield widower married Anne Marshall spinster on 24 May 1778 at Gt Chishill, both made their mark. Witnesses Jacob Smith and Thomas Smith
Title: Re: Abigale Mansfield
Post by: LizzieL on Wednesday 28 March 18 14:42 BST (UK)
There is a Sarah Mansfield bapt Gt Chishill in 1775 d/o William and Amy, so she could be child of William's first marriage.
Title: Re: Abigale Mansfield
Post by: LizzieL on Wednesday 28 March 18 15:21 BST (UK)
William Mansfield died at Gt C on 7 April 1820 and was buried there on 10th April. Burial record says he was age 77. There is a marriage for a William Mansfield and Amey Chapman at Ashdon botp on 6 Aug 1764, both made their mark. WitnessesThomas Larkin and Thomas Chapman. William and Amey have three daughters baptised in Ashdon, Charlotte 1765, Ann 1768, Amey 1771.
There is a burial for an Amey Mansfield in Ashdon on 30 July 1775, it doesn't mention age or whether she was a child, so don't know if it was William's wife or daughter.

added
just checked back for actual date of the baptism of Sarah in Gt C, it was 15 July 1775, so it could fit with Amy dying not long after childbirth, if they are the same William / Amey couple.
Title: Re: Abigale Mansfield
Post by: LizzieL on Wednesday 28 March 18 16:06 BST (UK)
In 1800 a John Mansfield was apprenticed to Lois Pitty of Clavering, Wheelwright
Title: Re: Abigale Mansfield
Post by: bobtonks on Wednesday 28 March 18 22:15 BST (UK)
You have found a lot. I will look in the morning and see if it all makes sense to me.

Thanks for all your efforts.

Bob