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Title: Marriage certificate can’t be right
Post by: pincard on Wednesday 28 March 18 15:37 BST (UK)
Marriage for 26Septemer 1858
John Evans age Full bachelor Occ. Miner residence Aston father William Bretnell occ. miner

Elizabeth Taylor age full Spinster Ashton father William Pollitt Miner.

I am doing this tree for a friend and could not be sure of John’s mum and dad so sent for the certificate.

I would be so grateful for any help or advice thank you pincard
Title: Re: Marriage certificate can’t be right
Post by: Milliepede on Wednesday 28 March 18 15:40 BST (UK)
I wonder if there was another couple married with those surnames and they got the fathers mixed up?

You could check for any other marriages registered same place same time just in case otherwise I agree it isn't what you would expect to see.  Unless they were both stepfathers  :-\
Title: Re: Marriage certificate can’t be right
Post by: Milliepede on Wednesday 28 March 18 15:42 BST (UK)
Surprisingly on Free BMD for Sep 1858 Ashton is this

William Bretnell
John Evans
Amelia Pollitt
Elizabeth Taylor

so presumably the other couple have the wrong fathers too.  Maybe a call to GRO to explain and hopefully they can tell you the right fathers!
Title: Re: Marriage certificate can’t be right
Post by: BumbleB on Wednesday 28 March 18 15:43 BST (UK)
Snap!!
Title: Re: Marriage certificate can’t be right
Post by: JJen on Wednesday 28 March 18 15:44 BST (UK)
Would this be the marriage with the correct fathers? -

John Evans
Marriage - 26 Sep 1858, St. Michael, Ashton under Lyne, Lancashire
Father - Thomas Evans
Spouse - Elisabeth Taylor
Spouse's father - Joseph Taylor

JJ
Title: Re: Marriage certificate can’t be right
Post by: lancsann on Wednesday 28 March 18 16:14 BST (UK)
if the certificate you have been sent is a copy not a scan of the original I would ask the GRO to return your fee or at least send you the correct certificate
Title: Re: Marriage certificate can’t be right
Post by: pincard on Wednesday 28 March 18 16:27 BST (UK)
Quote from: Milliepede on Wednesday 28 March 18 15:42 BST (UK)
Surprisingly on Free BMD for Sep 1858 Ashton is this

William Bretnell
John Evans
Amelia Pollitt
Elizabeth Taylor

so presumably the other couple have the wrong fathers too.  Maybe a call to GRO to explain and hopefully they can tell you the right fathers!

Thank you everyone I will get in touch with thr GRO.
Title: Re: Marriage certificate can’t be right
Post by: BoslemBoy on Friday 30 March 18 12:09 BST (UK)
Another approach is to forget about GRO and go to the local record which is at Tameside Register Office:  CE4/13/162

The marriage was at St. Michael's, Ashton under Lyne.  The cheshirebmd.org.uk index has Elizabeth, not Elisabeth.

BB
Title: Re: Marriage certificate can’t be right
Post by: heatherjulie on Friday 30 March 18 20:30 BST (UK)
The register should be on film at Tameside Local Studies at Ashton library. I can check for you on Tuesday.
Title: Re: Marriage certificate can’t be right
Post by: heatherjulie on Tuesday 03 April 18 17:22 BST (UK)
The register reads
Ashton under Lyne Parish Church
26th September 1858
John Evans
Full Age
Bachelor
Abode Ashton
Miner
Father Thomas Evans
Miner

and

Elizabeth Taylor
Full Age
Spinster
Abode Ashton
Father Joseph Taylor
Miner

Witness Thomas Newton- as he witnessed several marriages, he was probably a parish official
James Newton

If you would like a copy of the register entry, please message me an email address.

Heather