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Title: William Ross & Mary Ann Smith, & Francis & george
Post by: aross on Wednesday 28 March 18 23:09 BST (UK)
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Title: Re: William Ross & Mary Ann Smith, & Francis & george
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 29 March 18 09:52 BST (UK)
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Seeking information about Francis Ross Smith
 born 1851 st margarets church
 lived in leicestershire / yeoman st census 1851
 would like to know port of exit
 like to know exact date of birth
 and all other info of other members
Title: Re: William Ross & Mary Ann Smith, & Francis & george
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 29 March 18 09:56 BST (UK)
Is this the family in 1851 living at 29 Yeoman Street
William   Ross   37   occ Shoemaker   bn Countesthorpe, Leicestershire
Mary Ann   33   bn Bedworth, Warwickshire
George W   11   bn St Margarets, Leicester
Catherine   7   bn St Margarets, Leicester
Eliza 3 bn St Georges, Leicester
Francis   9 months bn St Georges, Leicester

HO107/2088 f399 p29
Title: Re: William Ross & Mary Ann Smith, & Francis & george
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 29 March 18 10:01 BST (UK)
ROSS, GEORGE  WILLIAM     mmn FLEMINGS     
1839  Sept Quarter in LEICESTER UNION  Volume 15  Page 83   

ROSS, CATHERINE  DINAK     mmn HEMINGS     
1844  June Quarter in LEICESTER UNION  Volume 15  Page 83

ROSS, ELIZA       mmn EMINGS     
1847  Dec Quarter in LEICESTER UNION  Volume 15  Page 107

ROSS, FRANCIS       mmn EMMINGS     
1850  Sept Quarter in LEICESTER  Volume 15  Page 120

Purchasing these birth certificates will give exact birth dates
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp
Title: Re: William Ross & Mary Ann Smith, & Francis & george
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 29 March 18 10:28 BST (UK)
Seeking information about Francis Ross Smith
 

 would like to know port of exit



When did he leave England and which country did he go to  :-\   Did the whole family move.

You mention Mary Ann Smith - did Francis father die and his mother remarry a 'Smith'  :-\
Title: Re: William Ross & Mary Ann Smith, & Francis & george
Post by: aross on Friday 30 March 18 21:53 BST (UK)
Hello there!,

thank you so much for replying.

Im Agustin Ross, Francis Ross (son of William Ross and Mary Ann Smith  /Mary Ann Ross ) who came from England.

Francis Ross, here in Uruguay were he traveled to, called Francisco Ross who married Fausta Caceres from Uruguay. But thats another story for another day lol.

Im seeking information about Francis birth certificate, i think i have found him, but i need to find which port he exited.

He was born in 1851 in st margarets leicester leciestershire England, by census 1841 in which appear William , Mary ann, george, francis. etc.

By 1900 Francis was already in Uruguay.

Also into knowing about Mary Ann who i think might be from Wichwake something leicestershire and William who also think was born in 1818 in leicester.

All that you can give me that you think, might may must can, be then all open

Thank you !

Agustin
Title: Re: William Ross & Mary Ann Smith, & Francis & george
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 31 March 18 08:09 BST (UK)

Im seeking information about Francis birth certificate


This is the entry for his birth registration on the GRO index, they are the details needed to order the certificate

ROSS, FRANCIS       mmn EMMINGS     
1850  Sept Quarter in LEICESTER  Volume 15  Page 120

Purchasing this birth certificate will give exact birth dates
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp

He was baptised at St Nicholas, Leicester 17 July 1850, parents William & Mary Ann Ross.  Their abode at the time was Thornton Lane and Williams occupation was a shoemaker.
Title: Re: William Ross & Mary Ann Smith, & Francis & george
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 31 March 18 08:19 BST (UK)
In 1869 Francis was convicted of Larceny and was imprisoned with hard labour for 2 months in Leicester House of Correction.

How sure are you that this is 'your Francis Ross' as there was a death of a Francis Ross in 1893, Leicester registration district that could fit this person.
Title: Re: William Ross & Mary Ann Smith, & Francis & george
Post by: Ladyhawk on Saturday 31 March 18 11:46 BST (UK)
Is this the family in 1851 living at 29 Yeoman Street
William   Ross   37   occ Shoemaker   bn Countesthorpe, Leicestershire
Mary Ann   33   bn Bedworth, Warwickshire
George W   11   bn St Margarets, Leicester
Catherine   7   bn St Margarets, Leicester
Eliza 3 bn St Georges, Leicester
Francis   9 months bn St Georges, Leicester

HO107/2088 f399 p29

A warm welcome to Rootschat from me also :)

I know you were asking for information on Francis Ross
I've added the following in case you don't have info. and for anyone else looking


1861
RG 9; Piece: 2298; Folio: 34; Page: 3
21 Jewry Wall Street Leicestershire
Mary Ann Ross   Widow 43 Bedworth Warwickshire
Frank Ross   10 Leicester
Eliza Ross           13 ditto factory hand piecer
Plus lodgers surname Hart

There are also these bpt in Leicestershire parent named as
William Ross, occ. shoemaker/cordwainer & Mary Ann

George William   Ross   24 Dec 1837 St Mary de Castro
Res. Ruding Street

George William   Ross   09 Aug  1839 St Margaret's
Res. Hampden Street

Sarah Ann Maria Ross   17 Oct  1841 St Margaret's
Res. Hampden Street

ROSS, SARAH  ANN MARIA mmn   HEMMINGS     
1841  S Quarter in LEICESTER UNION  Volume 15  Page 111   

Catherine Dinah Ross 11 Aug 1844 St Margaret's
Res. Hampden St.

Eliza   Ross 05 Dec 1847 St Margaret's
Res. Craven Street

Andrew Ross 31 Dec 1854 St Nicholas
Res. Jewry Wall Street

ROSS, ANDREW  mmn   HEMMINGS     
1854  D Quarter in LEICESTER  Volume 07A  Page 186   

Record set   Leicestershire Baptisms

This looks to be William, Mary & George Ross on 1841 census

HO107; P604;St Margaret With Bishops Fee Leicestershire; ED25; Folio: 5; Page: 2;
Hampden Street
William Ross   25 Shoe'm
Mary Ross      20
George Ross   2
all born in this county

There is this death from GRO Indexes

George William ROSS age 1     
1838  D Quarter in LEICESTER UNION  Volume 15  Page 85
his burial date 26 Nov 1838 Leicester, St Nicholas
Abode Jewry Wall Street

added

Sarah Ann Maria Ross Age 7
Burial date 23 Apr 1848 Leicester, St Nicholas
abode Thornton Lane

Andrew ROSS (GRO indexes give his age at death as 3)
1858  D Quarter in LEICESTER  Volume 07A  Page 148

William ROSS (GRO indexes give his age  41
1856  D Quarter in LEICESTER  Volume 07A  Page 128
His burial 30 Sep 1856 Leicester, England
Title: Re: William Ross & Mary Ann Smith, & Francis & george
Post by: Ladyhawk on Saturday 31 March 18 14:09 BST (UK)
There is this marriage for a William Ross but her first name is Ann not Mary ???

Res. St Nicholas, Boro of Leicester, marriage at St Nicholas Leicestershire

William ROSS & Ann HEMMINGS
both of this Parish
Married in this Church by Banns, with Consent, this Seventh day of September in the Year
One Thousand Eight Hundred and thirty six
William signed, Ann made her mark (x)
In the Presence of Elijah Dillow and Martha  N?rmlei?hton (x) her mark
Title: Re: William Ross & Mary Ann Smith, & Francis & george
Post by: Ladyhawk on Saturday 31 March 18 17:03 BST (UK)

Im seeking information about Francis birth certificate


This is the entry for his birth registration on the GRO index, they are the details needed to order the certificate

ROSS, FRANCIS       mmn EMMINGS     
1850  Sept Quarter in LEICESTER  Volume 15  Page 120

Purchasing this birth certificate will give exact birth dates
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp

He was baptised at St Nicholas, Leicester 17 July 1850, parents William & Mary Ann Ross.  Their abode at the time was Thornton Lane and Williams occupation was a shoemaker.

Do you think this is same person?

All Saints Leicester 8th Sept 1883
Frank Ross 32, Trimmer father William shoemaker
Mary Jane Bell 29, father William rope maker
Both single, both signed their names abode Warrington St.,
Witnesses Alfred Talbot Bell & Emma Mee x (her mark )

There are also these entries
Frank Ross Age: 19 (1852), Soldier  born: Leicestershire
2nd Battalion 17th Regiment and Depot 1st Battalion 17th Regiment
1871 RG10; Piece: 818; Folio: 34; Page: 22 – Aldershot Hampshire

Canada, British Army Regimental Rolls of Non-commissioned Officers and Soldiers, 1806-1892
(Vol 7 – 9) 48th Foot, 17th Foot 1st Battn

Frank Ross Birth Place: St Michaels, Leicester
Age at Attestation:   18 (1851), occ Trimmer
Attestation Date:   12 Jun 1869 Attestation Place:   Leicester
Regimental Number:   1874
Ht 5,6 hair Lt Brown, Eyes Grey


Title: Re: William Ross & Mary Ann Smith, & Francis & george
Post by: Ladyhawk on Saturday 31 March 18 17:13 BST (UK)
   
ROSS, CATHERINE  DINAK    mmn HEMINGS     
1844  June Quarter in LEICESTER UNION  Volume 15  Page 83


There's also this marriage

25 Feb 1869 Leicester, All Saints
William Leonard, Trimmer, Frog Island, father William, Tanner
Catherine Ross, The Friars, father William, shoemaker
Both full age, both single, William signed his names, Catherine made her mark (x)
Witnesses Samuel Edwards & Mary Adams

1871c RG10; Piece: 3289; Folio: 103; Page: 39
Frog Island, Slater Street
Willm Leonard 27 Leicester                       Trimmer of Hosiery
Cathe Leonard 27  ditto        Worsted spinner

1881c 24 Abbey St
William Leonard 37
Catherine Leonard 36 Leicester
Catherine Chambers niece 12

Catherine D Leonard died age 74 Jun 1918   Leicester Vol 7a Page:   173

Catherine Dinah Leonard widow of 37 Bradgate Street Leicester, died   9 Apr 1918
Probate 1 May 1918 to William Broughton & Henry Danson shoe operatives and Catherine Ellen Kirk (wife of William), Effects £1265 18s. 9d.
Catherine at the same address in 1911
Title: Re: William Ross & Mary Ann Smith, & Francis & george
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 31 March 18 17:53 BST (UK)
Francis Ross (son of William Ross and Mary Ann Smith  /Mary Ann Ross ) who came from England.

Francis Ross, here in Uruguay were he traveled to, called Francisco Ross who married Fausta Caceres from Uruguay.

Where does the information that his mother was Mary Ann Smith come from.

When did he marry Fausta Caceres
Title: Re: William Ross & Mary Ann Smith, & Francis & george
Post by: aross on Saturday 14 July 18 05:57 BST (UK)
Hello there,

Thanks for the reply, i have gather further info that can help me  find this man.

i looking for FRANCISCO J ROSS or FRANCIS J ROSS or FRANCIS ROSS
born in 1851 aprox english men, died between 1915 and 1925 in Uruguay, South America
was married to a woman named FAUSTA CACERES or FAUSTA CACERES Y ESPINOSA or FAUSTA ESPINOSA who was born between 1863 and 1867 aprox in Uruguay.
I do not know when they got married but i give or take they did so between 1878 and 1884 in Uruguay.

But im seeking to know where FRANCIS came from, i know his father was WILLIAM ROSS died before 1884, and mother MARY SMITH also dead before 1884.

would love any link, registration, info anyone can provide me,

thanks in advance

cheers have a good day
Title: Re: William Ross & Mary Ann Smith, & Francis & george
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 10 August 18 13:09 BST (UK)
I think you may have sent this by PM to me by mistake, I have posted it here for anyone who can help  :)


Hello there,

Thanks for the reply, i have gather further info that can help me  find this man.

im looking for
FRANCISCO J / FRANCIS J / FRANCIS ROSS
born 1851 ENGLISH
died 1915 to 1925 , Uruguay
Married ti Fausta Caceres 1863/7 1927
marriage btw 1878 / 1884 Uruguay

Francis father  WILLIAM ROSS dead by 1884
Francis mother MARY SMITH  dead by 1884


would love any link, registration, info anyone can provide me,

thanks in advance

cheers have a good day
Title: Re: William Ross & Mary Ann Smith, & Francis & george
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 10 August 18 13:14 BST (UK)
Francis Ross (son of William Ross and Mary Ann Smith  /Mary Ann Ross ) who came from England.

Francis Ross, here in Uruguay were he traveled to, called Francisco Ross who married Fausta Caceres from Uruguay.

Where does the information that his mother was Mary Ann Smith come from.

When did he marry Fausta Caceres

Looking back at the information that we have found on Francis Ross who was living in Yeoman Street in 1851, I don't believe that this is 'your' Francis