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Can anyone help me with this person,
William Fielding R.J Coldham.Born Great Ellingham Norfolk around 1895 I think.
thank you
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I presume he is the one in St Pancras in 1901 - RG13/143 f89 p18 with parents William & Elizabeth :-\ Only names on census William Coldham bn Gt Ellingham
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COLDEN, WILLIAM FIELDEN ROBERT JOHN mothers maiden surname SUTTON
1894 Sept Quarter in WAYLAND Volume 04B Page 240
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COLDEN, LILY ELIZABETH mmn SUTTON
1891 Dec Quarter in WAYLAND Volume 04B Page 260
COLDEN, STEPHEN SUTTON mmn SUTTON
1890 June Quarter in WAYLAND Volume 04B Page 255
Ties in with the children on the St Pancras census
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Can anyone help me with this person,
William Fielding R.J Coldham.Born Great Ellingham Norfolk around 1895 I think.
thank you
What exactly do you want to know about him ???
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Thank you for that info, was his wife Marian Elizabeth Walkden and did they have children.
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Parents marriage
Marriages Dec 1889
Colden Herbert William Wayland 4b 637
SUTTON Elizabeth Wayland 4b 637
marriage 24 Dec 1889 at Great Ellingham (from Family Search)
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Thank you for that info, was his wife Marian Elizabeth Walkden and did they have children.
If they married in England/Wales you should be able to find them on freebmd. You can also check whether there were any children born to the marriage on the same website.
What more can you tell us about him after the 1901 census I found :-\
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Thank you for that info, was his wife Marian Elizabeth Walkden and did they have children.
Can't see any births for Colden/Walkden.
Why do you think Marian Elizabeth Walkden could be his wife?
JJ
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Just something the person I have put the message on for said he wondered if she had been married before.
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Will go and search BMD and see what I can find out about Walkden unless spelling of surname is wrong.
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Right - I think you have got a bit confused here!
Have now found that the marriage of a William Coldham to a Marion Elizabeth Walkden took place 21/10/1914 Vernon, British Columbia, Canada.
I've subsequently found their deaths Marion Elizabeth Coldham bc.1878, died 3/2/1961 Kelowna, British Columbia and William Coldham bc.1883, died 7/11/1964 Kelowna, B.C. (1921 Canada Census shows he was bc.1881 England).
So, this William (who was a plain William) was bc.1880-1883 England and can't be the W F R J Coldham born in 1895!
Is it the William b.1880-1883 England who married Marion Elizabeth Walkden in 1914 you are actually interested in or WFRJ Coldham born 1895?
Annette
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That was a good find Annette :)
Just to add a bit -
On the 1921 census the Coldhams have a son William A Coldham b. 1917, British Columbia.
Residence - Peachland, Yale, British Columbia
JJ
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Yes, the son appears to be William Anthony Coldham b.8/4/1917, died 19/3/2007 Peachland, BC.
Annette
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The 1911 Canadian census records William Coldham b. 1881, he is living with his brother Thomas Coldham b. 1874.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV95-7QNG
His brother's name may help to locate William before he emigrated to Canada.
JJ
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Possible 1891 for William with brother Thomas -
William Coldham 49
Jessie Coldham 50
Thomas Coldham 16 b. Cavendish, Suffolk
Jane Coldham 11
William Coldham 9 b. Cavendish, Suffolk
Mary Coldham 7
Rose Hunt 16
RG12 Piece 1444 Folio 87 Page 5, Boxted, Suffolk
JJ
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I had come to exactly the same conclusions regarding family of William Coldham - his birth reg'd June. 1882 Sudbury, mmn Orbell.
Parents William Coldham and Jessie Orbell married in London - 15/4/1874 St. Botolph, Bishopsgate - he son of William, she dau. of Joseph. I see from census that Jessie was born in Pentlow, Essex.
Annette
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Death of Thomas (William's brother) which confirms their parents - William and Jessie as per 1891 census -
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FLRY-TBG
JJ
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Death of William, again confirming parents, his wife's name and birthplace -
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FLTL-6RZ
JJ
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Death of Marion, which confirms her date of birth and place of birth -
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FLRY-18P
JJ
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Looks like William Coldham left Liverpool for Canada on 16/4/1903 although cannot see when future wife Marion Elizabeth Walkden left the UK.
She was born in Ashwell, Hertfordshire and must have gone to Canada between 1911-1914. She hadn't been married before.
I wonder if they'd first met in London (where they both were in 1901) or whether they'd met once she got to Canada.
Annette
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Marriage record -
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JD8V-RLK
Marion was still in England for the 1911 -
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWFX-GM4
Therefore Marion would have emigrated between 1911 and 1914
JJ
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Miss M E Walkden
Age - 34
Birth Year - abt 1878
Occupation - Teaching domestic
Vessel - Lake Manitoba
Date of Arrival - 29 Mar 1912
Port of Arrival - St John, New Brunswick, Canada
Port of Departure - Liverpool
JJ
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No wonder I didn't find her (I only checked outgoing lists) - they have her age as 23 (bc.1889) and I was looking for someone bc.1878!
Annette
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1891 -
Chas Hy S Walkden 47
Harriet Walkden 50
Percy Chas Walkden 22
Emily H Walkden 21
Alice M Walkden 19
Alexander G Walkden 17
Ellena A Walkden 16
Marian E Walkden 13 b. Ashwell, Hertfordshire
Edith Walkden 11
Harold M Walkden 9
Rupert W Walkden 7
Mary V Servin 28
RG12 Piece 1101 Folio 23 Page 8, Ashwell, Hertfordshire
JJ
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With Annette finding the correct line to follow plus all the information found, it will hopefully enable you to research further. :)
JJ
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Thank thank you so much no wonder I was getting confused with it I can give him what you have all found and I can look further now .
once again Thank you so much
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WFRJ born 1895 info if possible to solve a mystery to where the connection to WALKDEN comes in.
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Prefer info on WFJR only if possible sorry for the confusion but I have looked at your info and don't think there is any connection to Walkden.
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You have his birth registration and parents marriage registration details, also location in 1901. You need to be clearer with us what other information you are looking for if any.
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My friend wondered if he married.
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You would need to locate him after the 1901 census as he could have married anywhere. What does your friend know about him that would help your search
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This has become so confusing - you asked if WFRJ was married to Marion Elizabeth Walkden and we've explained that the William Coldham who did was someone else entirely.
We've also explained that there is no trace of WFRJ in the UK born Gt. Ellingham after the 1901 census - no marriages, no death and no trace in 1911 census index.
Annette
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Sorry about the confusion but that is what the mystery is where did he go and he was only young when he vanished from the family.
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Do you have the rest of the family in 1911, could you please give details
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Perhaps if you give us confirmed details and connections between the Coldham/Walkden families that you know of then we can all stop being so confused as to actually what your request is and help you further.
JJ
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I have told him if he cant give me anymore info I will close the query.
So thank you all for all the info you have given me he doesn't know anything so will just try and go forward on what you have given me.