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Title: Unable to find death of my 2 x G. Aunt Dorothy Henzell
Post by: PaulThommo on Friday 06 April 18 10:18 BST (UK)
Hello RootsChatters, I am unable to find a death for Dorothy Henzell and hope that someone can assist.
The facts that I know: My 2 x G. Aunt was Dorothy Jefferson, christened Feb. 1784 in South Shields (parents James & Hannah Jefferson). She married Thomas Henzell (christened Sept. 1785) in South Shields on 3 Jan. 1807 and had (as far as I can find) 4 children, Hannah (15 May 1807 - a bit close!!!), Mary (30 May 1809), Isabella (1 June 1817) and Elizabeth (11 Dec. 1825).

The 1841 census has Thomas Henzell (aged 55-59) living in Wallis St. South Shields along with Sarah Henzell (aged 30-34) and Thomas Henzell (aged 4) plus other people. I thought that Sarah must have been another of the children but have discovered that they married in Tynemouth (Northumberland) on 6 Aug. 1836 and Thomas (jnr) is their son. They also had a second child, Sarah christened on 19 Oct. 1842. But there is no mention of a Dorothy Henzell in the 1841 census, nor a death under her married name.

I have found a death in Oct-Dec 1837 in South Shields for a Dorothy Jefferson (no age given). Is it possible in those long off days that they were divorced prior to 1836 (Thomas's second marriage) and that Dorothy reverted back to her maiden name and died under that name?

Thomas Henzell died/buried on 19 Oct.1842 (aged 57 which fits in with his birth year) in South Shields.

Any help would be appreciated. Thanking you, Paul Thompson
Title: Re: Unable to find death of my 2 x G. Aunt Dorothy Henzell
Post by: PaulineJ on Friday 06 April 18 10:21 BST (UK)
The 1837 death
JEFFERSON, DOROTHY       67years     1837  D Quarter in SOUTH SHIELDS UNION 
Title: Re: Unable to find death of my 2 x G. Aunt Dorothy Henzell
Post by: PaulThommo on Friday 06 April 18 10:27 BST (UK)
The 1837 death
JEFFERSON, DOROTHY       67years     1837  D Quarter in SOUTH SHIELDS UNION

Thanks Pauline for the extra quick response. So it can't be my Dorothy Jefferson as this one was born in 1770. Paul
Title: Re: Unable to find death of my 2 x G. Aunt Dorothy Henzell
Post by: Gadget on Friday 06 April 18 10:30 BST (UK)
A burial showing for a Dorothy Henzel, aged 49,  25 June 1835, Coronation Street, St Hilda's, South Shields.
Title: Re: Unable to find death of my 2 x G. Aunt Dorothy Henzell
Post by: PaulThommo on Friday 06 April 18 10:43 BST (UK)
A burial showing for a Dorothy Henzel, aged 49,  25 June 1835, Coronation Street, St Hilda's, South Shields.

Thank you Gadget, that looks like the one. I have looked on 2 sites (FindMyPast and Family Search and found nothing - mind you it may be me). Paul
Title: Re: Unable to find death of my 2 x G. Aunt Dorothy Henzell
Post by: Gadget on Friday 06 April 18 10:46 BST (UK)
If all else fails, Durham Records Online:

https://www.durhamrecordsonline.com/NewSearch.php

 :)
Title: Re: Unable to find death of my 2 x G. Aunt Dorothy Henzell
Post by: PaulThommo on Friday 06 April 18 10:57 BST (UK)
If all else fails, Durham Records Online:

https://www.durhamrecordsonline.com/NewSearch.php

 :)

Thanks Gadget, you really have to look everywhere!!! Paul
Title: Re: Unable to find death of my 2 x G. Aunt Dorothy Henzell
Post by: River Tyne Lass on Friday 06 April 18 11:18 BST (UK)
If you don't mind waiting a couple of weeks or so I will look in the newspapers at South Shields library for a death notice - this will likely record where she is buried.  Then I should be able to find the cemetery and plot for you.

Best Wishes :)

Amendment:  Sorry I jumpted in too quick I thought the burial said 1935.  Ooops!
Title: Re: Unable to find death of my 2 x G. Aunt Dorothy Henzell
Post by: Gadget on Friday 06 April 18 11:23 BST (UK)
Amendment:  Sorry I jumpted in too quick I thought the burial said 1935.  Ooops!

Seeing your post, I checked back to see if I'd typed it wrongly - my fingers tend to make typos on their own  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Unable to find death of my 2 x G. Aunt Dorothy Henzell
Post by: River Tyne Lass on Friday 06 April 18 16:23 BST (UK)
No, Sorry Gadget.  This was entirely due to my error.  I was in a  rush for an appointment at the point when I read the post and read the year incorrectly. ::) :-[
Title: Re: Unable to find death of my 2 x G. Aunt Dorothy Henzell
Post by: StanleysChesterton on Friday 06 April 18 20:12 BST (UK)
There is a short death notice that might be her but I can't access it.

Mrs Dorothy Henzell the 26th ult
In the Newcastle Courant, 4 July 1835

26th ult means 26th of last month, so 26th June.

Somebody with the National Papers, or a World Subscription to FindMyPast would be able to view it.
Title: Re: Unable to find death of my 2 x G. Aunt Dorothy Henzell
Post by: DavidJP on Friday 06 April 18 21:35 BST (UK)
Hi,

Newcastle Courant, 4th July 1835, Page 4.

Died

The 23rd Ult, at Coronation Street, aged 49, Mrs Dorothy Henzell.

That I'm afraid is literally all there is, just the one line.

The Fowler Street Address was for the person listed after Dorothy, an eight year old girl.

Hope this helps anyway.

Kind regards

David
Title: Re: Unable to find death of my 2 x G. Aunt Dorothy Henzell
Post by: Gadget on Friday 06 April 18 22:01 BST (UK)
Fits with Reply #3, David, burial 2 days later  :-\
Title: Re: Unable to find death of my 2 x G. Aunt Dorothy Henzell
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 07 April 18 00:44 BST (UK)
Not sure about this one:

Durham Chronicle 26 June 1835
22d inst, in Church Lane, Mrs Henzell, aged  50

More or less the same but....
Title: Re: Unable to find death of my 2 x G. Aunt Dorothy Henzell
Post by: PaulThommo on Saturday 07 April 18 01:10 BST (UK)
If you don't mind waiting a couple of weeks or so I will look in the newspapers at South Shields library for a death notice - this will likely record where she is buried.  Then I should be able to find the cemetery and plot for you.

Best Wishes :)

Amendment:  Sorry I jumpted in too quick I thought the burial said 1935.  Ooops!

Thanks River Tyne Lass for the offer, I will be in the area on holiday in a couple of months time and will continue my research  for ancestor details as they all came from South Shields/Westoe area. I'm from N'cle and have never been to S Shields as many times until I started researching them!!!!!!! Paul
Title: Re: Unable to find death of my 2 x G. Aunt Dorothy Henzell
Post by: PaulThommo on Saturday 07 April 18 02:31 BST (UK)
Thanks to all for their valuable assistance in fitting in another piece of the (constant) jigsaw.
Gadget, maybe an 'incident' happened in Church Lane on the 22nd and she died a day later at her home? in Coronation St. (which was full of houses in those days). I thought that Church Lane might be beside St Hilda's church which is very close to Coronation St. but my map shows it as St Hilda's Lane, will look further to find Church Lane.
It seems strange that 2 newspapers made note of the death so maybe something out of the ordinary did happen.
Many thanks, Paul