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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Topic started by: Tom Langley on Saturday 07 April 18 13:07 BST (UK)
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Hi all,
I have just discovered that my great great grandfather left his home in Cheshire England for Ireland at some point in the 1920s/30s. I was told he left after his wife died in 1917, but he is recorded on the electoral rolls for Wrenbury Cheshire in 1920.
I never could find him in the 1939 records, but have now found him on the New York passengers list as visiting in 1939, residence Bray, County Wicklow, Ireland.
I cant find anymore records of him relating to his time in Ireland or when he got there. I havent had to do any research in Ireland before so i am a little stuck. Can anyone help?
His name was Samuel Percy Broughton born 1860 Manchester. The ship log records him as married, so I'm keen to find out if he had an Irish bride!
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Hello,
There is a death for Percy Samuel Broughton here
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1941/04701/4254783.pdf
Heywood
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See this is where it gets complicated. His headstone in Wrenbury Cheshire says he died 27th August 1944, but i havent been able to find a death for this. The age given at death would put his birth in 1862, which is wrong. I cant help but wonder if perhaps he died in Ireland and his family didnt know and bodged a date?
The death record you have sent fits with everything in terms of age and location!
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I am trying to see any other records but not seen anything yet.
Does the record you found show who he was visiting in 1939?
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I have seen the manifest now. Interesting that home contact was friend Mrs Carroll, of Bray and Daniel Carroll was death informant.
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Well the Irish death late of the Coast Guard Station,Bray has probate of his will to a Methodist Minister, Moses J lewis
search here
http://www.nationalarchives.ie/search-the-archives/
Moses i presume
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Dromore_Urban/Gallows/207671/
he was married to Anne Elizabeth Lindsay
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1898/10414/5791978.pdf
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Hello,
There is a death for Percy Samuel Broughton here
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1941/04701/4254783.pdf
Heywood
Chester Chronicle, 22 Nov.1941: BROUGHTON— August 27. 1941, Samuel Percy Broughton in his __ year, son of the late Samuel Broughton, Esq., late of Heaton Mersey, near Marple; died at Officers’ House, Bray Head, Ireland (late Ridley Green Farm and Wrenbury Hall. Cheshire).
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Just noticed the probate says 1921 same date, date of issue 1941
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Oh wow, have thought for years he just died in Cheshire. Hes got a lot more interesting all of a sudden!
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Hi
Wonder if this is where he died... see
https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/homes-and-property/new-to-market/hidden-cottage-by-bono-s-martello-tower-in-bray-1.2168496
Cheers
LH
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1953
Mrs Annie Carroll age 52 and married died at the Coast Guard station ,Bray
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1953/04460/4168419.pdf
1959
Daniel Carroll age 58 a widower,occ Jeweller.died at the Coast Guard station Bray
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1959/04366/4132532.pdf
Daniel married Anne Cranley 1918 both minors
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1918/09711/5523416.pdf
Anne was born Dec 1900
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1901/01967/1758485.pdf
1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Wicklow/Bray/Railway_Terrace/1811507/
Daniel was born a few day's after 1901 census
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1901/01956/1755050.pdf
1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Wicklow/Bray_No_1/Green_Park_Road/891300/
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Bray Coast Guard Station
http://www.buildingsofireland.ie/niah/search.jsp?type=record&county=WI®no=16400808
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Thank you very much for the help! Do you know if there would be any records of Samuels time in Ireland? Im not sure when he arrived (looks like c1924). I cant help but wonder if he had another family in Ireland. He may have been old when he moved there, but he did seem to "get around" a bit in England.