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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition => Topic started by: Phenmark on Sunday 15 April 18 03:43 BST (UK)
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Hi,
I hope to get some help figuring out the word next to "Volunteer" for Joseph Dorey, cordwinder, in this list of men eligible for service in East Stoke, 1798.
Thanks!
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I believe it is wooll.
It's clearer in the top entry for James Sticklane.
Compare to will in the bottom line.
ADDED:
The equivalent entry in the line above is Croadway or similar.
Surnames of the Corporals or unit leaders, maybe?
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What an interesting list
- do you know what 'freed by a Pale' means, further down the list?
I notice the same person is the only one who is a seaman - doesthat have any bearing on it?
Pole and pole/pale is mentioned again in the bottom writing. :-\
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- do you know what 'Freed by a Pale' means, further down the list?
Go to the Red Lion in Wereham on Monday November 19, Wiggy. You can watch them submitting their pale, whatever it is.
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;D ;D OK!
You mean you don't know?? ;)
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I do not, Wiggy. Like you I'm keen to learn more.
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I think the word above is Crossway, and from searching old newspapers, Wooll is how the place Wool, Dorset was spelled back then. It is not overly far from Crossways, Dorset.
Still searching for the pale mention; the mention of the pale at the very bottom of the page is just adding to the mystery.
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I'm getting nowhere searching old newspapers for the magic pale of freedom.
I'm wondering if they had more volunteers than they needed, so names were put in a bucket, and the lucky winner didn't have to join up?
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I think the word above is Crossway...
The letter before the w is definitely a d. Compare to freed below.
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This explanation from Ancestry:
https://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=2165
Wereham is probably Wareham.
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It doesn't explain freed by a pale though . . .I am wondering if the person concerned was freed because he was a minister or one of the other exemptions listed . . .
Or something else occured to me - could he have been 'freed from prison' because he 'agreed' to serve in the militia? That thinking comes from 'beyond the pale - or out of bounds'.
I could be way off the mark, but would be interested to find out.
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My guess is that a pale is just a quirky spelling of 'appeal' (as in 'freed by appeal', 'the day of appeal').
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That is a good thought! ;)
- but then what does Pale/Pole mean in the last two lines. :-\
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That is a good thought! ;)
- but then what does Pale/Pole mean in the last two lines. :-\
Presumably it was the deadline for making any appeal.
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Ah. Yes of course. :-[
Thanks. :)
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Thank you all! Yes, I agree, I don't think spelling was this fellow's strong suit!
It seems as if one could appeal his military liability (exemption). I think this Joseph Dorey was born in West Lulworth, 1780. Would it make sense, geographically for him to be in East Stoke? I hadn't thought of "Woole" being a town.
Great suggestions!
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East Stoke is 3 miles west of Wareham and 2 miles east of Wool.
Useful site for a variety of Dorset records, not just census or parish registers!
http://www.opcdorset.org/
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My guess is that a pale is just a quirky spelling of 'appeal' (as in 'freed by appeal', 'the day of appeal').
Here's an article from 13 November 1809 (couldn't find one for the year in question) that backs up your theory.
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Thanks, bbart. Good find.
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Bbart,
May I ask what paper your extract was from? Did you find it online? Thanks very much.
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Thanks Nanny Jan,
I have used that site a lot. It's a great resource.
Thanks!
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Bbart,
May I ask what paper your extract was from? Did you find it online? Thanks very much.
It was from the Salisbury and Winchester Journal. I thought I had copied/pasted it with the date, but apparently not! When I went back to check the name of the paper, I did find an almost identical article from 1802. Anyways, it is one of the papers in the British Newspaper Archives, which my library subscribes to, but I believe FindmyPast also gives access to the same newspapers. I'm not sure if any other sites offer it.