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Title: lost relations
Post by: pearlds001 on Monday 16 April 18 11:47 BST (UK)
Claydon estates Taplow 1812 .. Montague family from 1777  ti=o  1899.. when Cookham transferred to maidenhead
Title: Re: lost relations
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 16 April 18 11:55 BST (UK)
Hi

We will need to have a bit more information to be able to help you, what is it you are trying to find out
Title: Re: lost relations
Post by: pearlds001 on Monday 16 April 18 12:03 BST (UK)
I have two sets of Names
1 William  & Phoebe Montague   Claydon Estate  Taplow  Bucks
2 William & Phebe  ( Note The spelling of Phoebe  ??)   all children Christened in Wooburn Bucks
Trying to find out if the family's are the same or Different
The spelling of Phoebe is different
So Confusing
Fred evans
Title: Re: lost relations
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 16 April 18 12:08 BST (UK)
Phoebe/Phebe would sound the same to a clergyman who was writing it down, I doubt that she would have spelt it out for him  :)   They are often interchanged.
Title: Re: lost relations
Post by: pearlds001 on Monday 16 April 18 12:30 BST (UK)
Thank you yes that is acceptable
My Problem is .. I have  A  William and Phoebe  from Claydon Estates Taplow  dating from 1777/ 1812
Then some born Taplow ,, Springfield estate ???
Then William and Phoebe 1842  from wooburn Bucks why should some be christned in taplow and some in Wooburn ,,  the dates dont add up
Title: Re: lost relations
Post by: MaureeninNY on Monday 16 April 18 13:23 BST (UK)
The William and Ph*be (Montaque on Ancestry) who are on the 1841 census must be this couple:

William Montague
Marriage Date:   8 Jan 1827
Marriage Place:   Wooburn, Buckingham, England
Spouse:   Phebe Lacey
......
I'm not certain of her age on the 1841 census. It looks more like 35 than 25 to me. (and rounding up and down,etc.)

Just to check against the 1851 census:
GRO Births:
MONTAGUE, CHARLOTTE  AUGUSTA     mmn LACEY     
 1849  M Quarter in ETON BUCKS  Volume 06  Page 409

MONTAGUE, SAMUEL       mmn LACEY 
1844  D Quarter in ETON UNION, BUCKS  Volume 06  Page 349

Maureen




Title: Re: lost relations
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 16 April 18 13:28 BST (UK)
I was just going to add 1841 Taplow has
Clayden Estate
William 30 Bn in county
Phoebe 35 Not born in County
Caroline 14
Rachel 12
Ann 7
Betsey 5
Mary 3
Harriett 4 months

Caroline, Rachel, Ann & Elizabeth (Betsey) all baptised Wooburn - abode on baptisms is Wooburn.  By 1841 they are living in Taplow
Title: Re: lost relations
Post by: MaureeninNY on Monday 16 April 18 14:39 BST (UK)
Thanks,Rosie!

Still not quite sure what we were/are looking for but it beats staring out the window at all the rain coming down here.

Maureen :)
Title: Re: lost relations
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 16 April 18 16:01 BST (UK)
I am confused with the first post and the 1700's dates and 1812.  Not sure what is meant by Cookham transferring to Maidenhead either.  Can you please give a bit more information on the earlier Montagues.

Maureen, Sorry to hear you have rain,  we are promised sunshine this week after what seems like weeks of rain on/off.  I should be in the garden  ;D
Title: Re: lost relations
Post by: pearlds001 on Monday 16 April 18 16:09 BST (UK)
up until the year 1899  the area was known as Cookham and Bray...
In 1999.. Maidenhead was created including Cookham and Bray..all in the county of Berkshire,, BUT Taplow and Wooburn  were in the county of Buckinghamshire..
Hence on Censes recordes If you were in Eather of  Taplow or Wooburn, You would have been out of the county
Title: Re: lost relations
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 16 April 18 16:41 BST (UK)
I realise that Maidenhead, Cookham & Bray are all in Berkshire and that Taplow & Wooburn are in Buckinghamshire (being on the other side of the Thames  :)  )  I assume you are referring to the different area of birth for Phoebe.  ;)

Sorry, I am still not sure what you are trying to establish with William & Phoebe.  :-[

ADDED 1841 census has all the children as Y for born in county this would be true whether they were born in Wooburn or Taplow
Title: Re: lost relations
Post by: pearlds001 on Monday 21 May 18 14:21 BST (UK)
Can you tell me where Claydon Estate was in Taplow . as I cound find it on 1841 to 1884 Map of Taplow Bucks .. Regards Pearlds
Title: Re: lost relations
Post by: pearlds001 on Monday 21 May 18 14:27 BST (UK)
I'm trying to find out if Wliilam and Phebe from Wooburn
and William and Phoebe from Taplow were  related to each other in any way..  as they all ended up living in Taplow  or were they two different families  many Thanks  .., Pearlds