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Title: Nicholas Boys Bull
Post by: Mary Wiliams on Monday 16 April 18 17:46 BST (UK)
I wonder if someone could help please. I am looking for a Nicholas Boys Bull b 2.9.1794 Stanway Essex. He married a Mary Tanner in the UK. From family info it appears he left Mary and their two children and then disappeared. He had been a mariner with the East India Company. I have found a record showing a Nicholas Boy Bull joining a Freemasons Lodge in 1842 in South Australia aged 32. I have also found a Nicholas Boys Bull with wife Mary (not sure if it is the same one) arriving in South Australia in 1839 and a child Susanna De Maltoss being born to them on 3.11.1839 in Adelaide. I have found a death of Nick Boys Bull in Adelaide 1846 aged 46 informant wife Mary. I cannot find and further records of Mary returning to the UK, she is shown living in the UK with her two sons from the marriage in 1851. I cannot find any further info on Sussana De Maltoss either.  Any help would be greatly appreciated on any of them.
Title: Re: Nicholas Boys Bull
Post by: matthewj64 on Monday 16 April 18 17:58 BST (UK)
Nicholas Boys Bull appointed Sub-Inspector of Police, Adelaide, 1838

1838 'Advertising', South Australian Gazette and Colonial Register (Adelaide, SA : 1836 - 1839), 28 July, p. 1. , viewed 17 Apr 2018, http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article31750045

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Title: Re: Nicholas Boys Bull
Post by: Mary Wiliams on Monday 16 April 18 18:03 BST (UK)
Wow, that was quick thank you so much, Mary
Title: Re: Nicholas Boys Bull
Post by: matthewj64 on Monday 16 April 18 18:07 BST (UK)
Deaths - On Tuesday the 5th instant, after a short but severe illness, Nick Boys Bull, Esq.,R.N., at the signal-station, at West-terrace, aged 46 years.

1846 'Family Notices', Adelaide Observer (SA : 1843 - 1904), 9 May, p. 4. , viewed 17 Apr 2018, http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article158922459
Title: Re: Nicholas Boys Bull
Post by: matthewj64 on Monday 16 April 18 18:25 BST (UK)
Nicholas Boys Bull appointed Sub-Inspector of Police, Adelaide, 1838

In 1839 he was made Superintendent of the Park Lands of Adelaide, and here he is refered to as 'Capt. Nick Boys Bull' - so he was a captain in the Royal Navy(?)
1841 'THE INQUEST ON WILLIAMS.', Adelaide Independent and Cabinet of Amusement (SA : 1841), 30 September, p. 4. , viewed 17 Apr 2018, http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article245310012
Title: Re: Nicholas Boys Bull
Post by: Mary Wiliams on Monday 16 April 18 18:28 BST (UK)
Thank you again, yes I believe he had been in the Royal Navy as a youngster, but all the info I have related to the East India Company.
Thank you again,
Mary
Title: Re: Nicholas Boys Bull
Post by: matthewj64 on Monday 16 April 18 18:39 BST (UK)
'Mrs Jolly begs to inform...she and Mrs Bull, widow of the late Captain Bull, RN, haved opened a school for young ladies...'

1846 'Advertising', South Australian (Adelaide, SA : 1844 - 1851), 26 June, p. 1. , viewed 17 Apr 2018, http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article71605053
Title: Re: Nicholas Boys Bull
Post by: matthewj64 on Monday 16 April 18 18:59 BST (UK)
'Mrs Bull the widow of a British officer of high standing, and an old colonist to boot, is at present in great distress, with her daughter in a delicate state of health...'
1851 'APPEAL ON BEHALF OF AN OLD COLONIST'S WIDOW.', Adelaide Observer (SA : 1843 - 1904), 3 May, p. 5. , viewed 17 Apr 2018, http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article165043310

'Shipmate' of Mrs Bull, 1837-8
1851 'THE WIDOW OF THE LATE CAPT. BULL.', Adelaide Observer (SA : 1843 - 1904), 10 May, p. 2. , viewed 17 Apr 2018, http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article165043106

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Title: Re: Nicholas Boys Bull
Post by: Mary Wiliams on Monday 16 April 18 19:07 BST (UK)
Very interesting story, I love the way it's written, thank you again
Title: Re: Nicholas Boys Bull
Post by: matthewj64 on Monday 16 April 18 19:30 BST (UK)
Very interesting story, I love the way it's written, thank you again

Yes, its great finding details like this. I'm wondering though if Mary stayed in Adelaide?

This looks like the daughter's marriage

Aust. marriage index
Susana Bull marr. William Williams
Adelaide 9 November 1863
father Nick Boys Bull
Title: Re: Nicholas Boys Bull
Post by: Mary Wiliams on Monday 16 April 18 19:38 BST (UK)
Thanks for the Marriage. Yes I think she may have done as the real wife Mary was living with the sons in Lambeth in 1851 and died in Lambeth 1860. But that doesn't explain her arrival in Australia unless she was another Mary and just called herself Mary Bull his wife.
Title: Re: Nicholas Boys Bull
Post by: matthewj64 on Monday 16 April 18 19:40 BST (UK)
... a child Susanna De Maltoss being born to them on 3.11.1839 in Adelaide...

Ancestry.com. Australia, Births and Baptisms, 1792-1981 has her as -

Susanna Dematlop Bull
Baptised Adelaide 14 April 1839
father Nicholas Boyd Bull
mother Mary
Title: Re: Nicholas Boys Bull
Post by: Mary Wiliams on Monday 16 April 18 19:49 BST (UK)
Thak you again for all your help, Mary
Title: Re: Nicholas Boys Bull
Post by: matthewj64 on Monday 16 April 18 19:58 BST (UK)
Aust. death index
Susannah Bull Williams
died 1 September 1864, Adelaide, aged 25
residence Melbourne
spouse William Williams

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Title: Re: Nicholas Boys Bull
Post by: Mary Wiliams on Monday 16 April 18 20:02 BST (UK)
Oh, how sad
Title: Re: Nicholas Boys Bull
Post by: matthewj64 on Monday 16 April 18 22:30 BST (UK)
Mention of mother and daughter in 1856

1856 'DESTITUTE BOARD.', Adelaide Times (SA : 1848 - 1858), 8 July, p. 3. , viewed 17 Apr 2018, http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article207093587

add - and again in 1858
1858 'DESTITUTE BOARD.', Adelaide Observer (SA : 1843 - 1904), 28 August, p. 3. , viewed 17 Apr 2018, http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article158123072

add - assaulted by landlord 1859
1859 'ADELAIDE: MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 12.', Adelaide Observer (SA : 1843 - 1904), 17 September, p. 4. , viewed 17 Apr 2018, http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article158129695
Title: Re: Nicholas Boys Bull
Post by: Aussie1947 on Tuesday 17 April 18 00:55 BST (UK)
Hi,
South Australian Government Gazette, 17th January 1850, page 49.

There was on this page a list of persons receiving salary under the Act No 11 of 1847 "For the encouragement of Public Education"

Included on the list of persons was a Mary L BULL of Grote st Adelaide.



South Australian Almanac and Directory 1839
BULL. Nick. Boys., Surveycommissary, Carrington street.

South Australian Almanac and Directory 1845
BULL. N. B., Flag Staff, West Terrace.

South Australian Almanac and Directory 1851
BULL, Mrs., Schoolmistress, Grote street.

Gerry
Title: Re: Nicholas Boys Bull
Post by: matthewj64 on Tuesday 17 April 18 01:27 BST (UK)
Possible death of Mary in 1872 at the destitute asylum

1872 'Advertising', South Australian Register (Adelaide, SA : 1839 - 1900), 15 July, p. 2. , viewed 17 Apr 2018, http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article39267258

add - Register of admissions - Destitute Asylum 1870 - 1909
https://www.archives.sa.gov.au/content/destitute-asylum-admissions
Mary Bull - application 1871
aged 63
residence - Beverly
32 yrs in colony
ship arrived by - Trusty
occupation - domestic

Trusty is the ship noted in this article posted previously, so I guess this is her
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/165043106
Title: Re: Nicholas Boys Bull
Post by: Mary Wiliams on Tuesday 17 April 18 07:39 BST (UK)
Thank you all for your help, one of my brick walls now broken down thanks to you,
Mary