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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Lanarkshire => Topic started by: Chiad Fhear on Wednesday 18 April 18 19:10 BST (UK)
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Hi there
I've just used up another expensive load of Credits on SP :'( so I'm hoping someone over there in Hamilton may have the Register of Death 1882/647/5 for John Lavery age 59 (i.e. born abt. 1823) to save me from buying more at the moment!
Help :'(
Chiad Fhear
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I'll have a look :)
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Not sure it's the one you want - single, no details of parents. Died Combination Poorhouse, Hamilton
:-\
(I feel very attached to your Laverys )
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Hi Gadget
Thanks for looking ... sadly, it's not the John I was hoping for. The one in question was married to Helen McLaren who were the parents of Mary who, you'll recall, died in the Asylum in Larbert in 1898.
Ah well, the search goes on ::)
Chiad Fhear
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Helen, his wife, is showing as married to John Lavery when she died in 1884, so he must have died later than that.
Was there any sign of him at all on the 1891?
Gadget
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I couldn't find him.
I'm wondering if he maybe went back to Ireland after Helen died.
I got the death details for Helen from the owner of a tree on Ancestry - not the actual record. Their search was done some years ago and only notes were taken >:(
Chiad Fhear
PS http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=791967.0 (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=791967.0)
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Will send Helen's DC.
I've been looking on the irish genealogy site - irishgenealogy.ie but nothing has jumped out so far.
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You are a star Gadget.
Chiad Fhear
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Pleased to help :)
As I said, I have become quite fond of your Lavery/Law family. Such sad endings.
The Irish death certs don't have parent details :(
Gadget
PS - did we get details of their marriage?
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I only have "Jan 1855 County Antrim, Ireland" ... same source.
Been a long day trawling the New York newspapers archive for this family and its extension(s). Got to go and have some relaxing (fermented) grape juice now :o
Chiad Fhear
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Familysearch have a John Lavery age 75(born c1816 ?) in Dumbarton Dunbartonshire on the 1891 Census :-\
ev
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As I said, I have become quite fond of your Lavery/Law family. Such sad endings.
For the benefit of those who may not have seen previous posts on this family
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=790725.0
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Familysearch have a John Lavery age 75(born c1816 ?) in Dumbarton Dunbartonshire on the 1891 Census :-\
He seems to be the only Lavery at whatever address this is. Has anyone looked at the original on SP? Though it would be cheaper and more informative to look at the death certificate - has anyone seen this?
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Familysearch have a John Lavery age 75(born c1816 ?) in Dumbarton Dunbartonshire on the 1891 Census :-\
He seems to be the only Lavery at whatever address this is. Has anyone looked at the original on SP? Though it would be cheaper and more informative to look at the death certificate - has anyone seen this?
I'll have a look - got lots of credits at the moment.
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Does look very much like him - well spotted, ev :)
101 High street, Dumbarton
Charles Walls, 31, shipyard lab, b. Ireland
Bridget, 32,b. Ireland
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John Lavery, lodger, widower, 75, shipyard lab, b. Ireland
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Could this be him in 1901
Denistoun
John Lavery, 83, inmate, widower, formerly labourer, b. Ireland
(from transcription - is it Denistoun poorhouse?)
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Just can't find a death for him so far, even with the broadest of broad searches. Checked Ireland just in case - am I missing something :-\
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Only other death for a John Lavery is in 1907. A shipyard labourer, aged 50, married to a Mary Early. Died Poorhouse, Dumbarton. Parents - Thomas Lavery and Ellen MS Connelly, both deceased.
Can't locate them so far on 1901.
Could it be this one in 1871, with wrong father's name:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=790725.msg6466506#msg6466506
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Chiad, I can't promise anything but I have a friend by the name of Lavery whose brother did extensive research on the name. If it might be any help putting you in touch I would be happy to arrange it, although whether my friend's brother would want to help I can't say.
Martin
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Nearest Poorhouse to Dennistoun would be the Barony Poorhouse Barnhill, later Foresthall Hospital, in Springburn, Scotland's largest.
Skoosh.
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Thanks, Skoosh. I think it's a look at the original to find out then.
Gadget
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I think it was St Joseph's Home - Little Sisters of the Poor, 180 Garngadhill. I had to view the header.
Gadget
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Hi everyone
You've all been working hard on my behalf looking for John's death while I've been in the garden enjoying the first day of summer here in Scotland. However, I believe tomorrow is to be the last :(
There's a lot of information to take in and a now there's a dire need for me to get over to Edinburgh and do some checking.
At least, thanks to Gadget, it's confirmed he wasn't the John Lavery who died in Hamilton (Lanarkshire) in 1882.
I've sent a PM to Martin accepting his offer.
Regards
Chiad Fhear
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Ah Gadget! I remember it before it was demolished, now in a new building at Robroyston. Folk from the Garngad giving their address as Dennistoun would raise a few eyebrows in Dennistoun! ;D Must be a ward boundary or other?
Skoosh.
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Snip of info from the header, Skoosh
:)
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A registration district Gadget! My gt grannie was a howdy & delivered weans in the Garngad. The Corporation tried changing the name to Royston to raise the tone but it's still the Garngad to the natives! ;D
Skoosh.