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Title: Something's Wrong-Can Someone Check?
Post by: saw119 on Thursday 19 April 18 14:28 BST (UK)
I appear to have written down some duff info from some ancestry searches awhile back, can someone just do a quick check for me? All I'm looking for is the church where any of these were baptised (all Cooper surname):
Phoebe 7th Sept 1806
Maria 19th Jun 1808
James 9th Jun 1811
John 31st July 1814

I don't want any actual images or anything, just the name of the church please. It will be in Paddington, London.
Title: Re: Something's Wrong-Can Someone Check?
Post by: Ruskie on Thursday 19 April 18 14:36 BST (UK)
St James Paddington
John Cooper 31 July 1814
parents: Joseph and Patience
John's occupation: Warfinger

Other baptisms are too early for this record set but may be elsewhere.  :)
Title: Re: Something's Wrong-Can Someone Check?
Post by: saw119 on Thursday 19 April 18 14:49 BST (UK)
I'm confused now. That's what I have in my notes but reading today it says St James was built mid 19th century and St Mary's is the parish church for Paddington in this period. I'm making a fool of myself somewhere along the line.
Title: Re: Something's Wrong-Can Someone Check?
Post by: avm228 on Thursday 19 April 18 14:59 BST (UK)
According to the church's website, its history can be traced back "to the twelve hundreds":

http://www.stjamespaddington.org.uk/history/
Title: Re: Something's Wrong-Can Someone Check?
Post by: saw119 on Thursday 19 April 18 15:06 BST (UK)
So perhaps only the current building dates to the mid 19th century then. You can stare at this stuff for too long, I swear.
Title: Re: Something's Wrong-Can Someone Check?
Post by: sugarbakers on Thursday 19 April 18 15:07 BST (UK)
TNA confirms the records of St James Paddington go back to 1655.

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/abf4327b-9a4b-43d0-8822-0bc9780c00e0
Title: Re: Something's Wrong-Can Someone Check?
Post by: saw119 on Thursday 19 April 18 15:18 BST (UK)

Images of the churches can be found here

http://www.british-history.ac.uk/old-new-london/vol5/pp204-224

That seems to be it but I cant find much info on it.

Moderator comment: copyright image removed, link posted in its place
Title: Re: Something's Wrong-Can Someone Check?
Post by: LizzieL on Thursday 19 April 18 15:50 BST (UK)
Ancestry seem to have images of the records for St James from 1600s to 1812 in one set of 283 images (each image double page of register) Must be several record books making up the set. They only seem to have burials for 1790 - 1812 for St Marys Paddington Green. Unfortunately there is no scan of the front any books which would give actual church dedication. I suspect that when the new parish church was built, the registers transferred and the older records were labelled as St J when the event actually happened in St M.
Looking at the later set (1813 and later), the set recorded as St J looks complete. Those recorded as St M are registers starting at 1832 for baptisms and of baptisms in St Johns Chapel in the parish of St Mary's Paddington.
Title: Re: Something's Wrong-Can Someone Check?
Post by: dawnsh on Thursday 19 April 18 16:02 BST (UK)
I posted this way back in 2008

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=304365.msg1863599#msg1863599
Title: Re: Something's Wrong-Can Someone Check?
Post by: dawnsh on Thursday 19 April 18 16:03 BST (UK)
Great image saw119, where does it come from?
Title: Re: Something's Wrong-Can Someone Check?
Post by: saw119 on Thursday 19 April 18 16:15 BST (UK)
Great image saw119, where does it come from?

From here: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/old-new-london/vol5/pp204-224

So, is the final conclusion that St James is actually St Mary's since the baptisms took place 1806-14?
Title: Re: Something's Wrong-Can Someone Check?
Post by: dawnsh on Thursday 19 April 18 18:19 BST (UK)
The church of St James now standing in Sussex Gardens was built after the baptisms mentioned so they cannot have taken place there.

I would suggest that the baptisms took place at the Parish Church of Paddington which at the time was St Mary's on Paddington Green,

If you want some bedtime reading try

www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/51123
Title: Re: Something's Wrong-Can Someone Check?
Post by: saw119 on Friday 20 April 18 11:33 BST (UK)
The church of St James now standing in Sussex Gardens was built after the baptisms mentioned so they cannot have taken place there.

I would suggest that the baptisms took place at the Parish Church of Paddington which at the time was St Mary's on Paddington Green,

If you want some bedtime reading try

www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/51123

Many thanks for helping out with the church confusion. That's an interesting book, I'll have a browse. My main area of interest lies in the Paddington Basin and associated features due to the erstwhile family working and living there from about 1805-1840ish. The loss of the 1841 census returns for Paddington continues to annoy (why are only the crucial records missing?).
Title: Re: Something's Wrong-Can Someone Check?
Post by: dawnsh on Friday 20 April 18 14:29 BST (UK)
I did have another link that was actally a photographic copy of the book that that links seems to have disappeared..

My family tip up in the 1820's, my dad sold his business in 1980. The shop was taken over by another firm and is still there trading under the old family name.