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Title: Thomas James Hinchliffe birth 1852 Huddersfield
Post by: Milliepede on Friday 20 April 18 16:11 BST (UK)
There's a birth in Dec 1852 on Free BMD for the above named but I can't find it on the GRO index to check mothers maiden name - can anyone find it please?

Title: Re: Thomas James Hinchliffe birth 1852 Huddersfield
Post by: BumbleB on Friday 20 April 18 16:19 BST (UK)
Page number for Thomas James is 246.

Using surname of Hinchliffe and Huddersfield in December quarter1852 there is a James Edwin - page 246 - mmn Battye

Title: Re: Thomas James Hinchliffe birth 1852 Huddersfield
Post by: Milliepede on Friday 20 April 18 16:26 BST (UK)
Thanks for looking, I was hoping for a MMN of Wilson  :-\
Title: Re: Thomas James Hinchliffe birth 1852 Huddersfield
Post by: avm228 on Friday 20 April 18 16:29 BST (UK)
Battye looks right as the 1861 census shows Thomas James, 8, has a 1 yr old younger brother Fred Hinchliffe - birth reg Sep qtr 1859 Huddersfield with mmn Battye.

Father is Edwin, a widower by 1861 (wife was Hannah per 1851).

Edwin Hinchliffe married Hannah Battye, Sep qtr 1849 Huddersfield.
Title: Re: Thomas James Hinchliffe birth 1852 Huddersfield
Post by: Milliepede on Friday 20 April 18 16:53 BST (UK)
Right thank you that rules him out then. 
Title: Re: Thomas James Hinchliffe birth 1852 Huddersfield
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 20 April 18 17:01 BST (UK)
Could this be what you are after  :-\

HINCHLIFFE, TOM       mmn WILSON     
1853  June Quarter in HUDDERSFIELD UNION  Volume 09A  Page 328
Title: Re: Thomas James Hinchliffe birth 1852 Huddersfield
Post by: Milliepede on Friday 20 April 18 21:58 BST (UK)
Thanks Rosie that looks right  :D

Bit complicated as his father had died by 1861 and mother remarried in 1860 but I can't see him with his new family in 1861 **

Mum is Mary Bradbury b 1824 Huddersfield - step father John Bradbury and Tom is down as Bradbury in 1871.

In 1871 there are 2 Sarah A Bradbury daughters both born Huddersfield one 1846 one 1854.
Not sure if the 1854 one is another Hinchliffe/Wilson daughter or a Bradbury. 

Why would there be 2 daughters called Sarah A Bradbury from the same parents. 

** He could be the 8 year old down as "Sam"
Title: Re: Thomas James Hinchliffe birth 1852 Huddersfield
Post by: libby9 on Monday 23 April 18 02:53 BST (UK)

In 1871 there are 2 Sarah A Bradbury daughters both born Huddersfield one 1846 one 1854.
Not sure if the 1854 one is another Hinchliffe/Wilson daughter or a Bradbury. 

Why would there be 2 daughters called Sarah A Bradbury from the same parents. 

 I think you mean 1861


John Bradbury/Mary Hinchliffe marriage states both married previously. John's father Benjamin a slubber, Mary's William Wilson a delver.

John Bradbury, born, 23 Apr 1816, Baptised, 2 Jun 1816
Father:    Ben Bradbury, Mother:    Betty Bradbury
Todmorden, Yorkshire, England, Denomination:    Wesleyan

Have you found John's previous marriage, it may help sort out who the Sarah Ann's are.
Title: Re: Thomas James Hinchliffe birth 1852 Huddersfield
Post by: libby9 on Monday 23 April 18 03:04 BST (UK)
1851, HO107; Piece: 2295; Folio: 353; Page: 35;
Mark Hinchliffe    26, Shepley
Mary Hinchliffe    25, Huddersfield
James Hinchliffe    6, Hudddersfiel
Ann Hinchliffe    10 Mo, Huddersfield

Do you know what happened to James and Ann, they aren't with Mary in 1861.

All births with MMN Wilson, Rosie gave you Tom.

HINCHLIFFE, HENRY       WILSON     
GRO Reference: 1847  M Quarter in HUDDERSFIELD UNION  Volume 22  Page 344   

HINCHLIFFE, JAMES  WILLIAM     WILSON     
GRO Reference: 1844  J Quarter in HUDDERSFIELD UNION  Volume 22  Page 343   

HINCHLIFFE, ANN       WILSON     
GRO Reference: 1850  S Quarter in HUDDERSFIELD UNION  Volume 22  Page 357

HINCHLIFFE, ELIZABETH  ANN     WILSON     
GRO Reference: 1855  D Quarter in HUDDERSFIELD UNION  Volume 09A  Page 284   

HINCHLIFFE, EMILY       WILSON     
GRO Reference: 1856  D Quarter in HUDDERSFIELD  Volume 09A  Page 311   

Could Sarah Ann age 7 in 1861 actually be Elizabeth Ann,?  Unless you know what happened to Elizabeth Ann?
 



Title: Re: Thomas James Hinchliffe birth 1852 Huddersfield
Post by: libby9 on Monday 23 April 18 03:29 BST (UK)
Possible deaths for James and Ann

HINCHLIFFE, JAMES    age   8     
GRO Reference: 1853  M Quarter in HUDDERSFIELD UNION  Volume 09A  Page 246

HINCHLIFFE, ANN    age   4     
GRO Reference: 1855  J Quarter in HUDDERSFIELD UNION  Volume 09A  Page 232
 
Title: Re: Thomas James Hinchliffe birth 1852 Huddersfield
Post by: Milliepede on Monday 23 April 18 14:16 BST (UK)
Thanks libby9  I've got death certificates for father Mark in 1859 and children

James in 1853
Ann in 1855
Elizabeth Ann also in 1855

I haven't got a Henry born 1847 as being one of theirs.