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Title: Thomas Cockburn
Post by: Cazza47 on Friday 20 April 18 18:57 BST (UK)
Would a death certificate  from 1940 give me place of birth, I know Thomas Cockburn was born 27/04/1899 but cannot find place of birth.
Title: Re: Thomas Cockburn
Post by: carol8353 on Friday 20 April 18 19:07 BST (UK)
I presume you're talking about England and Wales?

http://home.clara.net/dixons/Certificates/deaths.htm
Title: Re: Thomas Cockburn
Post by: Pennines on Friday 20 April 18 19:34 BST (UK)
Have you found him on census records for 1901 or 1911 which will give you a birth place?

Or do you have a marriage certificate which would give you his father's name, if you are unsure which Thomas Cockburn he is on the census records.
Title: Re: Thomas Cockburn
Post by: emeltom on Friday 20 April 18 19:36 BST (UK)
If he was born in April 1899 then his birth, in theory should be registered in the June quarter 1899.

There are four birth refs on the GRO site for Thomas Cockburn registered in the June quarter

Rothbury mmn Cockburn
Sunderland mmn Dinning
Bolton mmn Lynn
S.Shields mmn Watson

Emeltom
Title: Re: Thomas Cockburn
Post by: Cazza47 on Friday 20 April 18 20:00 BST (UK)
Thanks.
He married Esther Rudd in 1922 in Wigton which is were she is from, I have found him in the 1939 register but that does not give a place of birth, he was a farmer.
Have not got marriage certificate yet.
Will keep looking.
Title: Re: Thomas Cockburn
Post by: carol8353 on Saturday 21 April 18 09:01 BST (UK)
Emelton found four possible births for you,until you get the marriage cert and find out who his father was I'm afraid you're not going to get anywhere,apart from risking barking up the wrong tree.
Title: Re: Thomas Cockburn
Post by: Jamjar on Saturday 21 April 18 09:15 BST (UK)
Only two showing when I search on FamilySearch: http://www.rootschat.com/links/01lxc/

Jamjar
Title: Re: Thomas Cockburn
Post by: carol8353 on Saturday 21 April 18 09:42 BST (UK)
At least one of the 4 died as a tiny baby.

Deaths Sep 1899

Cockburn    Thomas    0    Sunderland    10a   459
Title: Re: Thomas Cockburn
Post by: Daisypetal on Saturday 21 April 18 17:38 BST (UK)
Hi,

To add a few possibilities, unfortunately there are some Thomas COCKBURNs of the right age in the 1901 Scotland census.

Regards,
Daisy
Title: Re: Thomas Cockburn
Post by: Pennines on Saturday 21 April 18 18:03 BST (UK)
As we have said previously - the marriage certificate is a must in this case. It will simply be guesswork otherwise. At least a father's name and occupation should cut down the possibilities on the census records (hopefully to only 1 if we are lucky!!).
Title: Re: Thomas Cockburn
Post by: carol8353 on Saturday 21 April 18 18:32 BST (UK)
As we have said previously - the marriage certificate is a must in this case. It will simply be guesswork otherwise. At least a father's name and occupation should cut down the possibilities on the census records (hopefully to only 1 if we are lucky!!).

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Thomas Cockburn
Post by: Cazza47 on Monday 23 April 18 10:16 BST (UK)
Will send for the marriage certificate.
Thanks
Title: Re: Thomas Cockburn
Post by: Pennines on Monday 23 April 18 10:55 BST (UK)
Phew! That's great news Cazza -- do please let us know the outcome if you still can't find your Thomas on census records after receiving the certificate and we'll try to help.
Title: Re: Thomas Cockburn
Post by: carol8353 on Monday 23 April 18 11:09 BST (UK)
Phew! That's great news Cazza -- do please let us know the outcome if you still can't find your Thomas on census records after receiving the certificate and we'll try to help.

Was going to say the same thing  ;D

Good decision  8)

Carol
Title: Re: Thomas Cockburn
Post by: Cazza47 on Sunday 29 April 18 15:08 BST (UK)
Found out that Thomas Cockburn parents were Robert Cockburn who was born in Scotland and Frances Watson from Whitehaven, they were living in lancashire. Thanks for all help.
Title: Re: Thomas Cockburn
Post by: carol8353 on Sunday 29 April 18 16:34 BST (UK)

June 1/4 of 1899

S.Shields mmn Watson

Emeltom

Sounds like this is the correct birth then.

ADDED- although this one is showing as a mother's maiden name of Lynn?

COCKBURN, THOMAS       mmn LYNN     
GRO Reference: 1899  J Quarter in SOUTH SHIELDS  Volume 10A  Page 859

Maybe this one is the right one?
COCKBURN, THOMAS       mmn WATSON     
GRO Reference: 1899  J Quarter in BOLTON  Volume 08C  Page 361