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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: craigbarwick01 on Saturday 21 April 18 08:33 BST (UK)
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Hi, hoping someone can help with an answer. I have been researching James Britton , born in England 1813 and transported to Van Diemens Land in 1830 for life. James did not see his freedom until 1842. From the records I have found James married Sarah Jane Cork in 1840 , Oatlands Tasmania and they started a family in 1843 after James received his pardon. My question is this, on a birth record for their daughter born 1856, the person who registered the birth was Sara Anne Britton ( sister, Oatlands ) and I believe she married a John Thomas the following year aged 20. If this is true she was born 1837. I have found her in a couple of site and her parents are given as James Britton and Sarah Jane Cork. Sarah was only 15 when she arrived in VDL in 1836 as a female immigrant. If Sarah Anne is their daughter, is there a chance it wasn't recorded because of James's convict status, Sarah's age and the fact that they weren't married?
Cheers
Craig
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Hello Craig,
where did your Britton originate?
I have a Britton in my Gilbert Tree who had roots in Somerset and Gloucestershire around Bristol.
Cheers
Jack Gee
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Just in case you don't have these ....
Here is marriage announcement for Sarah Ann BRITTON, eldest daughter of Mr James Britton of St Peter's pass, Oatlands to John THOMAS in 1857 http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article3245384
And here is death notice for Sarah Ann THOMAS, wife of John THOMAS in 1903
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article12268728
Ros
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Hi Jack, my James Britton originated St Georges, East London to the best of my knowledge, he was tried in Warwickshire 27 March 1830 and arrived In Hobart, Tasmania 7 November 1830 on board the PERSIAN.
Thanks also Ros , I did not have the marriage announcement and it is correct because he was living at St Peters Pass at the time. I had not seen the death announcement either.
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Thanks Craig, doesn't look like any connection.
Good luck with your genie journey.
Tassie is usually a good place to go hunting for records..
cheers
Jack
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A short obit for Mrs John THOMAS http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article232737796
Ros
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..... is there a chance it wasn't recorded because of James's convict status, Sarah's age and the fact that they weren't married?
No. Many events were not recorded regardless of who you were. Civil registration started in 1838 in Tasmania and prior to that there are only church records so you would be relying on the child being baptised. If Sarah Ann was born 3 years prior to the marriage there is a chance that James BRITTON was not her father.
When the census was taken in Jan 1842 and Jan 1843 James had one female child under the age of two years in the household. By 1848 he had one female child under two years and three female children aged between 2 and 7.
Debra :)
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When the census was taken in Jan 1842 and Jan 1843 James had one female child under the age of two years in the household. By 1848 he had one female child under two years and three female children aged between 2 and 7.
This fits well with the age of about 62 in the 1903 death notice for Sarah Ann found by rosball
M
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Yes, I think she was younger than 20 when she married in 1857.
Debra :)
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Louisa was the sixth daughter....
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/51404222
So the girls were approximately...
Sarah Ann c1841
Emma 1843
Mary Ann c1845
Ellen 1847 (died 1853)
Alice 1850
Ellen 1854
Louisa 1856
Debra :)
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Unfortunately there's no Church of England baptism register to check, the archives note that the register for the period '...was removed from the church in 1933 and presumably destroyed'
M
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Thanks to everyone for their assistance , another puzzle solved in my ever growing tree
Cheers
Craig
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Unfortunately there's no Church of England baptism register to check, the archives note that the register for the period '...was removed from the church in 1933 and presumably destroyed'
M
Umm .... the C of E regulations actually forbid the destruction of these registers. Also, C of
E used two or more registers, so there should be the back up register. The regulations required the two then current registers to be kept separate and both in fireproof safety. It might be worthwhile contacting the Diocese offices to enquire about the registers. For example, clergy kept one register at 'home' and another in the saddle bag when travelling on a circuit in the 19th Century. One was written up 'as it happened' and the other, written up once 'back home'. There was a third and backup, as the clergy were required to transmit the details to their ''head-offices. So, it is possible for C of E records to be found in several registers for the one event. NSW BDM online index for example includes FIVE different reference numbers (each from a different register) for the baptism of one of my female ancestors in the 1830s. The civil admin authorities ought to have been following the civil admin regulations from Macquarie's time, if so there should have been info forwarded to the VDL Supreme Court's registrar, although many many clergy did not follow this 'practice' as the civil authorities did not make any funding provisions for the clergy's expenses to cover this.
CORK ... could be mis-read by the 20th century indexers .... COOK, CORE, CARK, CANE, and many other examples.
JM
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^Thanks majm, I'll follow up on this.
M