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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Derry (Londonderry) => Topic started by: poppysmum on Sunday 22 April 18 08:12 BST (UK)
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Hello,
I’m here again asking for more help with Irish ancestors.
I’m in Scotland, so we have Alan Robinson born 1896 in cambusnethan, Lanarkshire although the family lived in Harthill.
His parents John Robinson and Catherine Simpson were married on the 8th if January 1891 in Dungarven, Ireland.
I’ve tried looking but can’t find their marriage record. Also, their oldest son William Simpson Robinson wasn’t born in Scotland. They also have lost a child but I can’t see any record.
Johns death certificate only has a mother recorded, Martha Robinson.
Is anyone able to help with this family, I’m very interested to learn more about them .
Thanks
Caroline
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Hello Caroline,
This looks like it
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1891/10657/5883053.pdf
Regards
Heywood
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1901 shows William S born in Cambusthenan so one would assume that the child who dies was also born there.
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Hello,
I’m here again asking for more help with Irish ancestors.
I’m in Scotland, so we have Alan Robinson born 1896 in cambusnethan, Lanarkshire although the family lived in Harthill.
His parents John Robinson and Catherine Simpson were married on the 8th if January 1891 in Dungarven, Ireland.
I’ve tried looking but can’t find their marriage record. Also, their oldest son William Simpson Robinson wasn’t born in Scotland. They also have lost a child but I can’t see any record.
Johns death certificate only has a mother recorded, Martha Robinson.
Is anyone able to help with this family, I’m very interested to learn more about them .
Thanks
Caroline
So how do you know??
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These are possibilities for you
Death of Martha Robinson reported by son William
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1920/05133/4413700.pdf
Birth of William to mother Martha
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1877/03027/2109368.pdf
Perhaps William and Martha in 1911 ???
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Straw/Straw/593740/
Birth for John Robinson with mother Martha
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1866/03534/2300831.pdf
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possible 1866 in Bovera for John
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1866/03534/2300831.pdf
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Sorry dathai I just added it as you posted.
Also, just realised this thread is in Waterford forum as Caroline has Dungarven (Dungarvan, Waterford) when I think it should be Dungiven.
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Long way from Waterford to Londonderry...... both born there on census
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Catherine 1867 ?
427
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1867/03478/2278273.pdf
Parents Presbyterian married 3rd Dec 1863
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGNT-765
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possible 1866 in Bovera for John
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1866/03534/2300831.pdf
It is hard to read but the townland is actually Boveva[gh]-
https://www.townlands.ie/londonderry/keenaght/bovevagh/bovevagh/
If you click on 'report to moderator' and ask for this thread to be moved to DERRY/LONDONDERRY board it's likely more information can be found. Just let us know what other details we can search for you :)
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Hello,
I’m here again asking for more help with Irish ancestors.
I’m in Scotland, so we have Alan Robinson born 1896 in cambusnethan, Lanarkshire although the family lived in Harthill.
His parents John Robinson and Catherine Simpson were married on the 8th if January 1891 in Dungarven, Ireland.
I’ve tried looking but can’t find their marriage record. Also, their oldest son William Simpson Robinson wasn’t born in Scotland. They also have lost a child but I can’t see any record.
Johns death certificate only has a mother recorded, Martha Robinson.
Is anyone able to help with this family, I’m very interested to learn more about them .
Thanks
Caroline
So how do you know??
Hi,
I got the birth certificate for Alan Robinson who was born in Scotland and that’s what it said for parents marriage details.
I’ve got a bit confused now. Have I made a mistake with where they were from? Sorry,
Caroline
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Thank you for all your help though! I appreciate it.
Caroline
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Hello,
I’m here again asking for more help with Irish ancestors.
I’m in Scotland, so we have Alan Robinson born 1896 in cambusnethan, Lanarkshire although the family lived in Harthill.
His parents John Robinson and Catherine Simpson were married on the 8th if January 1891 in Dungarven, Ireland.
I’ve tried looking but can’t find their marriage record. Also, their oldest son William Simpson Robinson wasn’t born in Scotland. They also have lost a child but I can’t see any record.
Johns death certificate only has a mother recorded, Martha Robinson.
Is anyone able to help with this family, I’m very interested to learn more about them .
Thanks
Caroline
So how do you know??
Hi,
I got the birth certificate for Alan Robinson who was born in Scotland and that’s what it said for parents marriage details.
I’ve got a bit confused now. Have I made a mistake with where they were from? Sorry,
Caroline
No problem.
Didn't know Cert said Dungarven, Co Waterford.
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The marriage of John Robinson & Catherine Simpson took place in Bovevagh Parish Church on 8 Jan.1891 (link given in reply #1)- son's birth certificate probably says (or at least should say Dungiven- not too far away).
John Robinson was living in the townland of Ardinariff (Ardinarive)- north of Dungiven-
https://www.townlands.ie/londonderry/keenaght/bovevagh/ardinarive/
Catherine Simpson was a domestic servant at Bovevagh Rectory- Bovevagh townland is next to Ardinarive-
https://www.townlands.ie/londonderry/keenaght/bovevagh/bovevagh/
John Robinson (illegitimate) was born 1866 in the townland of Flanders-
https://www.townlands.ie/londonderry/keenaght/bovevagh/flanders/
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Bovevagh Parish (COI) Church history- with pictures of inside and outside of church-
https://dungivenbovevaghparishes.com/about/bovevagh-history.php
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Hi Caroline,
Yes you have made an error, I think. You have confused Dungiven, Londonderry and Dungarvan, Waterford.
It is quite likely that your information comes from a record where the spelling of the place was wrong though.
There is a lot of information here which will be useful to you and certainly looks like your family. :)
Heywood
Topic moved.
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Hi
Yes, thank you very much!
I’ve got a lot to get looking at.
Caroline
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Simpson family if birth for Catherine is right
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Bellarena/Milltown/1523343/
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Bellarena/Milltown/594308/
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Hello,
Thanks Dathai,
Yes that is the right family, I have Catherine Simpson’s death certificate from Scotland and her mother is Maria Fleming and her father is William.
Caroline