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Title: J B Yeats and Susan L Mitchell(Langstaff)
Post by: ShaneNZ on Sunday 22 April 18 09:49 BST (UK)
Dear people of Sligo. I am Shane from Christchurch New Zealand.
For may years now I have owned a Shakespeare's Birthday Book containing some 900 autographs, Belonging once to Surgeon/ Dr Thomas Leslie Crooke 1861-1943. His paremts orignated from Birr County Offaly.
His brother George Douglas Crooke was once secretly engaged to Poet Susan L Mitchell born Dec 05 1866 and both autographed the book. George a military man died in a war.
I am unable to find a photo I can use of Susan as I piece their lives together.
Now I am led to belove that a Portrait of Susan Langstaff Mitchell is hanging in The Model/Mall in Sligo painted by J B Yeats when Susan lived with them.

I would like to know if some kind person could take a photo for me and send via e mail. I will make acknowlegement of this should I get a book published on Dr Crooke's life.

Thank you and kind regards. Shane Patrick Duffy.

Title: Re: J B Yeats and Susan L Mitchell(Lanstaff)
Post by: heywood on Sunday 22 April 18 10:03 BST (UK)
Hello Shane,

Would it not be best to contact The Model http://themodel.ie as there may be copyright issues with photographing/publishing.
There may be options via the gallery.
Regards
Heywood
Title: Re: J B Yeats and Susan L Mitchell(Langstaff)
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 22 April 18 10:08 BST (UK)
https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/an-irishman-s-diary-on-susan-langstaff-mitchell-a-pioneering-irish-writer-and-journalist-1.2596712
Title: Re: J B Yeats and Susan L Mitchell(Langstaff)
Post by: ShaneNZ on Sunday 22 April 18 10:12 BST (UK)
Hello Shane,

Would it not be best to contact The Model http://themodel.ie as there may be copyright issues with photographing/publishing.
There may be options via the gallery.
Regards
Heywood.

Thank you Heywood Sadly I sent an e mail and never got a reply back. If a painting is displayed in public I'm sure any one is allowed to to take a photo of it just like a building or something else. I tried to contact  Hilary Pyle via publisher as she wrote a book named "The Red Headed Rebel" but also got no reply back.
Title: Re: J B Yeats and Susan L Mitchell(Langstaff)
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 22 April 18 10:13 BST (UK)
Dear people of Sligo. I am Shane from Christchurch New Zealand.
For may years now I have owned a Shakepeare's Birthday Book containing some 900 autographs, Belonging once to Surgeon/ Dr Thomas Leslie Crooke 1861-1943. His paremts orignated from Birr County Offaly.
His brother George Douglas Crooke was once secretly engaged to Poet Susan L Mitchell born Dec 05 1866 and both autographed the book. George a military man died in a war.
I am unable to find a photo I can use of Susan as I piece their lives together.
Now I am led to belove that a Portrait of Susan Langstaff Mitchell is hanging in The Model/Mall in Sligo painted by J B Yeats when Susan lived with them.
 


Don't worry.... I won't tell anyone!!
Title: Re: J B Yeats and Susan L Mitchell(Langstaff)
Post by: ShaneNZ on Sunday 22 April 18 10:14 BST (UK)
https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/an-irishman-s-diary-on-susan-langstaff-mitchell-a-pioneering-irish-writer-and-journalist-1.2596712
Thank you Hallmark
Title: Re: J B Yeats and Susan L Mitchell(Langstaff)
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 22 April 18 10:15 BST (UK)
https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/an-irishman-s-diary-on-susan-langstaff-mitchell-a-pioneering-irish-writer-and-journalist-1.2596712


Susan L Mitchell (1899), by John Butler Yeats (Courtesy of the National Gallery of Ireland)

so maybe they can give permission??
Title: Re: J B Yeats and Susan L Mitchell(Langstaff)
Post by: heywood on Sunday 22 April 18 10:18 BST (UK)
Hello Shane,

Would it not be best to contact The Model http://themodel.ie as there may be copyright issues with photographing/publishing.
There may be options via the gallery.
Regards
Heywood.

Thank you Heywood Sadly I sent an e mail and never got a reply back. If a painting is displayed in public I'm sure any one is allowed to to take a photo of it just like a building or something else. I tried to contact  Hilary Pykle via publisher as she wrote a book named "The Red Headed Rebel" but also got no reply back.

Perhaps so :-\
Title: Re: J B Yeats and Susan L Mitchell(Langstaff)
Post by: ShaneNZ on Sunday 22 April 18 10:22 BST (UK)
https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/an-irishman-s-diary-on-susan-langstaff-mitchell-a-pioneering-irish-writer-and-journalist-1.2596712


Susan L Mitchell (1899), by John Butler Yeats (Courtesy of the National Gallery of Ireland)

so maybe they can give permission??
The paintings are no longer in The National Gallery of Ireland but hang in the Model Mall Sligo.
Title: Re: J B Yeats and Susan L Mitchell(Langstaff)
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 22 April 18 10:27 BST (UK)
https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/an-irishman-s-diary-on-susan-langstaff-mitchell-a-pioneering-irish-writer-and-journalist-1.2596712


Susan L Mitchell (1899), by John Butler Yeats (Courtesy of the National Gallery of Ireland)

so maybe they can give permission??
The paintings are no longer in The National Gallery of Ireland but hang in the Model Mall Sligo.


Yes...... but they still own them!!
Title: Re: J B Yeats and Susan L Mitchell(Langstaff)
Post by: heywood on Sunday 22 April 18 10:27 BST (UK)
http://womensmuseumofireland.ie/articles/susan-l-mitchell
Title: Re: J B Yeats and Susan L Mitchell(Langstaff)
Post by: heywood on Sunday 22 April 18 10:30 BST (UK)
http://themodel.ie/the-niland-collection/collection/283

Gifted to the Niland Collection. I think it still depends on who owns the piece.
Title: Re: J B Yeats and Susan L Mitchell(Langstaff)
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 22 April 18 10:38 BST (UK)
http://themodel.ie/the-niland-collection/collection/283

Gifted to the Niland Collection. I think it still depends on who owns the piece.

The collection is rotated so they could be back in the National Gallery now...
Title: Re: J B Yeats and Susan L Mitchell(Langstaff)
Post by: ShaneNZ on Sunday 22 April 18 12:52 BST (UK)
http://womensmuseumofireland.ie/articles/susan-l-mitchell
Thank you very much Heywood I am sending e mails to as many of these places as possible,
Title: Re: J B Yeats and Susan L Mitchell(Langstaff)
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 22 April 18 12:56 BST (UK)
If I only had a Dollar for every time I passed this....

http://www.carrickheritage.com/news--events/susan-l-mitchell

Never even looked to see who it was!   ;D
Title: Re: J B Yeats and Susan L Mitchell(Langstaff)
Post by: ShaneNZ on Sunday 22 April 18 21:30 BST (UK)
Thnak you so so much Hallmark. I have never seen this before and what a delight is to see a monument dedictaed to Susan Lanstaff Mitchell so well derserving.
Title: Re: J B Yeats and Susan L Mitchell(Langstaff)
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 22 April 18 21:34 BST (UK)
I can take photo of it next time I'm passing..... then you won't need Copyright for Image!
Title: Re: J B Yeats and Susan L Mitchell(Langstaff)
Post by: ShaneNZ on Monday 23 April 18 01:39 BST (UK)
A photograph would be so welcome. Thank you Hallmark. So appreciated.
Title: Re: J B Yeats and Susan L Mitchell(Langstaff)
Post by: hallmark on Friday 27 April 18 11:24 BST (UK)
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Title: Re: J B Yeats and Susan L Mitchell(Langstaff)
Post by: hallmark on Friday 27 April 18 11:25 BST (UK)
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Title: Re: J B Yeats and Susan L Mitchell(Langstaff)
Post by: heywood on Friday 27 April 18 12:36 BST (UK)
That’s great, hallmark. Shane will be thrilled, I’m sure.
Title: Re: J B Yeats and Susan L Mitchell(Langstaff)
Post by: hallmark on Friday 27 April 18 12:56 BST (UK)
That’s great, hallmark. Shane will be thrilled, I’m sure.

...and she is near a Pub!!  ;D
Title: Re: J B Yeats and Susan L Mitchell(Langstaff)
Post by: ShaneNZ on Saturday 28 April 18 02:02 BST (UK)
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That is such a wonderful photo . Thank you very much
Title: Re: J B Yeats and Susan L Mitchell(Langstaff)
Post by: ShaneNZ on Saturday 28 April 18 02:05 BST (UK)
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Thrilled and over the moon Thank you.
Title: Re: J B Yeats and Susan L Mitchell(Langstaff)
Post by: Billy Mitchell on Monday 13 July 20 12:50 BST (UK)
Hi Shane, I believe  Susan L Mitchell painting is in a private collection in National Gallery of Ireland. My grandfather was her eldest brother.I'm (almost)sure there is a photo of her & Lily Yeats in "Red headed rebel". I will try to find out more.I have a photo of George (grandfather)and his children. I will keep you updated.Sincerely  William F Mitchell.
Title: Re: J B Yeats and Susan L Mitchell(Langstaff)
Post by: ShaneNZ on Friday 17 July 20 09:59 BST (UK)
Billy Mitchell So thankful to have read your message. Such a great family connection. It's been so difficult to get a copy of The Red Headed Rebel in NZ. I was only granted a short time from our University through then a student friend who was attending. The laws are quite demanding and confusing to a person like me when it comes to copyrights. Thank you William F Mitchell.
Title: Re: J B Yeats and Susan L Mitchell(Langstaff)
Post by: Billy Mitchell on Saturday 18 July 20 11:41 BST (UK)
Hi Shane, Hope this might help.