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Title: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: ShaneNZ on Tuesday 24 April 18 06:08 BST (UK)
Hello people of County Offaly Ireland.

I research autograph names from a Shakespeare's Birthday Book which has been in my pocession for many years now. Once owned by Surgeon/Dr Thomas Leslie Crooke 1861-1943.

Recently I  stumbled on a site BOARDS IE but the messages were from 2010.
I couldn't gain access to the site as someone named (Sim) Simarillion was looking for these family names also in the Birthday Book among the 800-900 autogtraphs.

Adam Mitchell Crown Solicitor
J (James) Fitzroy Mitchell Engineer (Died young at Buenos Airies).
 
They once lived in Birr in place named "Walcott" which was then taken over by the Hoctor family.
Susan L Mitchell went to stay them in Birr at a stage in her life.

Most people signed on their birthday but left no year.

These were relatives to a great Irish woman Susan L (Langstaff ) Mitchell Poet/Writer 1866 whose autograph is also in the book.

Others appear :

Barbara Mitchell : Sept 25 and a Catherine Mitchell: Sept 26. Mary Mitchell: Feb 3 (no years).
A G Mitchell Feb 22 1858
 
I am struggling to find these people as very limited to sites I can access.

Thank you from Shane in NZ.


Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 24 April 18 07:39 BST (UK)
C Reg   Birth, Marriage and Death results for Mitchell of Birr

Displaying results 1 - 89 of 89.   http://www.rootschat.com/links/01lxu/

First one on Civil Reg is 1900
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 24 April 18 07:42 BST (UK)
No Civil Reg Marriage or Death recorded for your Barbara Mitchell
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 24 April 18 07:44 BST (UK)
https://www.dia.ie/architects/view/3514/MITCHELL-JAMESFITZROY
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 24 April 18 07:53 BST (UK)
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Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 24 April 18 07:58 BST (UK)
No Civil Reg Marriage or Death recorded for your Barbara Mitchell

It is here, I think Hallmark
1897
Barbara Mitchell, 76 yrs widow of Solicitor. Informant Mr F ? Mitchell, son.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1897/05847/4656745.pdf
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 24 April 18 08:01 BST (UK)
Thomas Leslie Crooke's mother was Emily Hackett, daughter of Thomas Hackett and Jane Bernard Shaw
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 24 April 18 08:02 BST (UK)
C Reg   Birth, Marriage and Death results for Mitchell of Birr

Displaying results 1 - 89 of 89.   http://www.rootschat.com/links/01lxu/

First one on Civil Reg is 1900

Parsonstown - earlier civil records
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01lxv/
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 24 April 18 08:05 BST (UK)
 
No Civil Reg Marriage or Death recorded for your Barbara Mitchell

It is here, I think Hallmark
1897
Barbara Mitchell, 76 yrs widow of Solicitor. Informant Mr F ? Mitchell, son.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1897/05847/4656745.pdf

Ahh.... I only looked for Birr ones!!
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 24 April 18 08:07 BST (UK)
C Reg   Birth, Marriage and Death results for Mitchell of Birr

Displaying results 1 - 89 of 89.   http://www.rootschat.com/links/01lxu/

First one on Civil Reg is 1900

Parsonstown - earlier civil records
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01lxv/
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No point in looking for them in Birr when they weren't in Birr
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 24 April 18 08:11 BST (UK)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Langstaff_Mitchell

Her father Michael Thomas Mitchell. Died Carrick on Shannon 1873.
Mother Kate Cullen died 1913, Dublin

A published tree shows him as son of Adam Mitchell (1816-1892) and Barbara Foster.

Might be best to look at what is given and assess what you would like after that  :)

Amended - see later posts
Thomas Mitchell is son of Adam.
Michael Thomas seems to be son of George Mitchell and Susan Langstaff.
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: ShaneNZ on Tuesday 24 April 18 08:19 BST (UK)
No Civil Reg Marriage or Death recorded for your Barbara Mitchell

It is here, I think Hallmark
1897
Barbara Mitchell, 76 yrs widow of Solicitor. Informant Mr F ? Mitchell, son.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1897/05847/4656745.pdf
Thank you Heywood very much
C Reg   Birth, Marriage and Death results for Mitchell of Birr

Displaying results 1 - 89 of 89.   http://www.rootschat.com/links/01lxu/

First one on Civil Reg is 1900

Parsonstown - earlier civil records
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01lxv/
.
.

No point in looking for them in Birr when they weren't in Birr
Thank you again so much Hallmark
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 24 April 18 08:21 BST (UK)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Langstaff_Mitchell

Her father Michael Thomas Mitchell. Died Carrick on Shannon 1873.
Mother Kate Cullen died 1913, Dublin

A published tree shows him as son of Adam Mitchell (1816-1892) and Barbara Foster.

Might be best to look at what is given and assess what you would like after that  :)

All covered on

 http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=792152.msg6482981#msg6482981

Who she was, parents, siblings etc!

I only posted "Thomas Leslie Crooke's mother was Emily Hackett, daughter of Thomas Hackett and Jane Bernard Shaw"  as that is connection to the Shaws.

Probably a relative of George  Bernard Shaw
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 24 April 18 08:27 BST (UK)
Hallmark,
I was just trying to show the connection of Susan to Adam via her father, his son.  :-\
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 24 April 18 08:29 BST (UK)
Shane,
You might find some of your people on here

http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/search/cwa/

Adam is here http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014906/005014906_00298.pdf
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 24 April 18 08:31 BST (UK)
Hallmark,
I was just trying to show the connection of Susan to Adam via her father, his son.  :-\

No problem!
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: ShaneNZ on Tuesday 24 April 18 08:33 BST (UK)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Langstaff_Mitchell

Her father Michael Thomas Mitchell. Died Carrick on Shannon 1873.
Mother Kate Cullen died 1913, Dublin

A published tree shows him as son of Adam Mitchell (1816-1892) and Barbara Foster.

Might be best to look at what is given and assess what you would like after that  :)
Thank you I save every snippet of information which is supplied to me.
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 24 April 18 08:37 BST (UK)
Are Barbara Mitchell : Sept 25 and a Catherine Mitchell: Sept 26. Mary Mitchell: Feb 3 (no years).
A G Mitchell Feb 22 1858 from Birr?

Or are they Susan's siblings?
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: ShaneNZ on Tuesday 24 April 18 08:39 BST (UK)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Langstaff_Mitchell

Her father Michael Thomas Mitchell. Died Carrick on Shannon 1873.
Mother Kate Cullen died 1913, Dublin

A published tree shows him as son of Adam Mitchell (1816-1892) and Barbara Foster.

Might be best to look at what is given and assess what you would like after that  :)

All covered on

 http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=792152.msg6482981#msg6482981

Who she was, parents, siblings etc!

I only posted "Thomas Leslie Crooke's mother was Emily Hackett, daughter of Thomas Hackett and Jane Bernard Shaw"  as that is connection to the Shaws.

Probably a relative of George  Bernard Shaw
Yes I believe somewhere along the line they are acestors to George Bernard Shaw.
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 24 April 18 08:44 BST (UK)
Are Barbara Mitchell : Sept 25 and a Catherine Mitchell: Sept 26. Mary Mitchell: Feb 3 (no years).
A G Mitchell Feb 22 1858 from Birr?

Or are they Susan's siblings?

"...Mitchell played her part in Ireland’s literary rebirth at the start of the 20th century. Born in Carrick-on-Shannon, Co Leitrim on December 6th, 1866, she was the fifth of seven children. Her father was manager of the town’s Provincial Bank. When he died in 1872, the family was split up, with the children being cared for by relatives in Sligo and Dublin. Susan was sent to live with aunts on Dublin’s Wellington Road...."
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: ShaneNZ on Tuesday 24 April 18 08:58 BST (UK)
Are Barbara Mitchell : Sept 25 and a Catherine Mitchell: Sept 26. Mary Mitchell: Feb 3 (no years).
A G Mitchell Feb 22 1858 from Birr?

Or are they Susan's siblings?

"...Mitchell played her part in Ireland’s literary rebirth at the start of the 20th century. Born in Carrick-on-Shannon, Co Leitrim on December 6th, 1866, she was the fifth of seven children. Her father was manager of the town’s Provincial Bank. When he died in 1872, the family was split up, with the children being cared for by relatives in Sligo and Dublin. Susan was sent to live with aunts on Dublin’s Wellington Road...."
Susan never married or had children as her fiance George Douglas Crooke died at war.
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 24 April 18 09:13 BST (UK)
Are Barbara Mitchell : Sept 25 and a Catherine Mitchell: Sept 26. Mary Mitchell: Feb 3 (no years).
A G Mitchell Feb 22 1858 from Birr?

Or are they Susan's siblings?

the family was split up, with the children being cared for by relatives in Sligo and Dublin. Susan was sent to live with aunts on Dublin’s Wellington Road...."
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 24 April 18 09:36 BST (UK)
Are Barbara Mitchell : Sept 25 and a Catherine Mitchell: Sept 26. Mary Mitchell: Feb 3 (no years).
A G Mitchell Feb 22 1858 from Birr?

Or are they Susan's siblings?

the family was split up, with the children being cared for by relatives in Sligo and Dublin. Susan was sent to live with aunts on Dublin’s Wellington Road...."


I see..... not siblings!!


Catherine Theresa Cullen b: 1832 d: April 1913 Dublin, Co.DUB
 ......  +Michael Thomas Mitchell b: August 18, 1823 m: April 26, 1860 Calry CoI, Co.SLI d: October 1873
  George Cullen Mitchell b: 1861

  John [Johnny] James Mitchell b: 1862

  Bidz Finucane Mitchell b: 1863

  Michael  Mitchell b: 1865 d: 1908

 Susan Langstaff Mitchell b: 1866

 Jane  Georgina Mitchell b: 1868

  Victoria Diana  Mitchell b: 1870 d: 1959
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: ShaneNZ on Tuesday 24 April 18 15:47 BST (UK)
Shane,
You might find some of your people on here

http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/search/cwa/

Adam is here http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014906/005014906_00298.pdf
Yes thank you Heywood That is Adam Mitchell in 1892 records
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 24 April 18 16:12 BST (UK)
Yes it is Adam, that is why I posted  :)

I thought the site might also help you look for others in the family or even names from your autographs.
I also came across Adam Garrett Mitchell who might be your Adam G.

Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: ShaneNZ on Tuesday 24 April 18 16:26 BST (UK)
Yes it is Adam, that is why I posted  :)

I thought the site might also help you look for others in the family or even names from your autographs.
I also came across Adam Garrett Mitchell who might be your Adam G.
Thank you I am trying to catch up with all this information I do accept and appreciate anything and everything here. Gets a bit overwhelming for me sometimes. Im a bit slow at times with replies.
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: ShaneNZ on Tuesday 24 April 18 16:43 BST (UK)
Yes it is Adam, that is why I posted  :)

I thought the site might also help you look for others in the family or even names from your autographs.
I also came across Adam Garrett Mitchell who might be your Adam G.
Hi I couldnt find him and lost which site would I find Adam Garrett Mitchell on. Thanks.
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 24 April 18 16:52 BST (UK)
It’s no problem - we like helping  ;)

Not sure if he is one of your Mitchells

Marriage Adam Garratt Mitchell (Father Adam) and Bessie Manifold
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1889/10743/5917602.pdf

Irish census 1901 Adam G Mitchell http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/King_s_Co_/Kinnetty/The_Walk__Part_of_Kinnetty_Town_/1464478/

Adam Garrett Mitchell - will
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/search/cwa/details.jsp?id=1639548786

I just wondered if he was A G in the autographs.
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 24 April 18 17:42 BST (UK)
Taking the Cullen family of Catherine Theresa Cullen...and the families they  married

Parkes of Parke's Castle, the Nesbitts, the Wynnes, the Wrays, the Waldrons etc etc etc... All Landed Gentry with vast estates, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if Catherine Theresa Cullen married Michael Thomas Mitchell, who could have been one of the Mitchells of Mount Mitchell in Co. Leitrim, of Fingall, Co. Dublin and of Bordeaux, France!!

Pure speculation of course!!
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: ShaneNZ on Tuesday 24 April 18 18:09 BST (UK)
It’s no problem - we like helping  ;)

Not sure if he is one of your Mitchells

Marriage Adam Garratt Mitchell (Father Adam) and Bessie Manifold
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1889/10743/5917602.pdf

Irish census 1901 Adam G Mitchell http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/King_s_Co_/Kinnetty/The_Walk__Part_of_Kinnetty_Town_/1464478/

Adam Garrett Mitchell - will
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/search/cwa/details.jsp?id=1639548786

I just wondered if he was A G in the autographs.

  Yes I think this is the right A G.as among my autographs I found a Thomasina Manifold (nee Hobbs) married George Augustus Frederick Crousdaile Manifold from also Kings County and it went to a site Geni the page is run by David Allen Hackett (related to Emily Hackett). Its like much of the autographs are related in some way.
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: ShaneNZ on Tuesday 24 April 18 18:16 BST (UK)
Taking the Cullen family of Catherine Theresa Cullen...and the families they  married

Parkes of Parke's Castle, the Nesbitts, the Wynnes, the Wrays, the Waldrons etc etc etc... All Landed Gentry with vast estates, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if Catherine Theresa Cullen married Michael Thomas Mitchell, who could have been one of the Mitchells of Mount Mitchell in Co. Leitrim, of Fingall, Co. Dublin and of Bordeaux, France!!

Pure speculation of course!!
Yes I am sure Michael Thomas Mitchell is related. Such wonderful work yourself Hallmark and heywood have been able to do for me.
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 24 April 18 18:25 BST (UK)
Taking the Cullen family of Catherine Theresa Cullen...and the families they  married

Parkes of Parke's Castle, the Nesbitts, the Wynnes, the Wrays, the Waldrons etc etc etc... All Landed Gentry with vast estates, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if Catherine Theresa Cullen married Michael Thomas Mitchell, who could have been one of the Mitchells of Mount Mitchell in Co. Leitrim, of Fingall, Co. Dublin and of Bordeaux, France!!

Pure speculation of course!!
Yes I am sure Michael Thomas Mitchell is related. Such wonderful work yourself Hallmark and heywood have been able to do for me.


Yes.... Susan's father!

 father Michael Thomas Mitchell. Died Carrick on Shannon 1873. ( Could have been one of the Mitchells of Mount Mitchell in Co. Leitrim, of Fingall, Co. Dublin and of Bordeaux, France)

Mother Kate Cullen died 1913, Dublin
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 24 April 18 18:29 BST (UK)
Again!


Are Barbara Mitchell : Sept 25 and a Catherine Mitchell: Sept 26. Mary Mitchell: Feb 3 (no years).
A G Mitchell Feb 22 1858 from Birr?

or just visiting?  related to Leitrim one???
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 24 April 18 19:01 BST (UK)
Are Barbara Mitchell : Sept 25 and a Catherine Mitchell: Sept 26. Mary Mitchell: Feb 3 (no years).
A G Mitchell Feb 22 1858 from Birr?

Or are they Susan's siblings?

the family was split up, with the children being cared for by relatives in Sligo and Dublin. Susan was sent to live with aunts on Dublin’s Wellington Road...."


I see..... not siblings!!


Catherine Theresa Cullen b: 1832 d: April 1913 Dublin, Co.DUB
 ......  +Michael Thomas Mitchell b: August 18, 1823 m: April 26, 1860 Calry CoI, Co.SLI d: October 1873
  George Cullen Mitchell b: 1861

  John [Johnny] James Mitchell b: 1862

In Loving Memory of | JOHN JAMES MITCHELL | formerly Manager Provincial Bank |
Kilrush, Co. Clare | son of MICHAEL MITCHELL | Carrick-on- Shannon | called
from us 12th February 1938 | aged 75 years | also his wife | BESSIE | died 8th
May 1943 | aged 64 years | and their daughter | NANCY | died 27th July 1980,
aged 62 years | "God gives us love | something to love | he lends us"

http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/dublin/photos/tombstones/mt-jerome-13/target101.html

___________________________

   
 
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: ShaneNZ on Tuesday 24 April 18 21:14 BST (UK)
Again!


Are Barbara Mitchell : Sept 25 and a Catherine Mitchell: Sept 26. Mary Mitchell: Feb 3 (no years).
A G Mitchell Feb 22 1858 from Birr?

or just visiting?  related to Leitrim one???
Asfar as I can make The Co.Leitrim Mitchells are relatives to the Co.Offaly Mitchells. I'm just a little confused until I get all my notes sorted.
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: ShaneNZ on Tuesday 24 April 18 21:30 BST (UK)
Are Barbara Mitchell : Sept 25 and a Catherine Mitchell: Sept 26. Mary Mitchell: Feb 3 (no years).
A G Mitchell Feb 22 1858 from Birr?

Or are they Susan's siblings?

the family was split up, with the children being cared for by relatives in Sligo and Dublin. Susan was sent to live with aunts on Dublin’s Wellington Road...."


I see..... not siblings!!


Catherine Theresa Cullen b: 1832 d: April 1913 Dublin, Co.DUB
 ......  +Michael Thomas Mitchell b: August 18, 1823 m: April 26, 1860 Calry CoI, Co.SLI d: October 1873
  George Cullen Mitchell b: 1861

  John [Johnny] James Mitchell b: 1862

In Loving Memory of | JOHN JAMES MITCHELL | formerly Manager Provincial Bank |
Kilrush, Co. Clare | son of MICHAEL MITCHELL | Carrick-on- Shannon | called
from us 12th February 1938 | aged 75 years | also his wife | BESSIE | died 8th
May 1943 | aged 64 years | and their daughter | NANCY | died 27th July 1980,
aged 62 years | "God gives us love | something to love | he lends us"

http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/dublin/photos/tombstones/mt-jerome-13/target101.html

___________________________

   
 
Catherine Theresa Cullen would've become Catherine Mitchell after she married Michael Thomas Mitchell so is Susan L Mitchell's Mother.

Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 24 April 18 22:55 BST (UK)

   
 
Catherine Theresa Cullen would've become Catherine Mitchell after she married Michael Thomas Mitchell so is Susan L Mitchell's Mother.

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Yes...that is what I said!!!
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 24 April 18 22:59 BST (UK)
 Susan's father!

Michael Thomas Mitchell. Died Carrick on Shannon 1873. ( Could have been one of the Mitchells of Mount Mitchell in Co. Leitrim, of Fingall, Co. Dublin and of Bordeaux, France)

Mother Kate Cullen died 1913, Dublin
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: ShaneNZ on Wednesday 25 April 18 04:56 BST (UK)

   
 
Catherine Theresa Cullen would've become Catherine Mitchell after she married Michael Thomas Mitchell so is Susan L Mitchell's Mother.

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Yes...that is what I said!!!
[/quote]Yes you most likely did but I am not very good at using these message boards and it takes me sometime to digest.
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 25 April 18 07:29 BST (UK)
Hello again,
Two things:
Birr was formerly known as Parsonstown so the references will be for the same place.
I think somewhere I have mixed up the generations  ::)
I have these names from a published tree so they would have to be verified.

George Mitchell m Susan Langstaff
Children:
Adam c 1816
Michael Thomas  1823- 1873 m Kate Cullen
Thomas no sources
Jane died 1897
Sarah no sources
Margaret died 1896
James Daniel died 1897

As you can see - not much information and not validated.

There is a mention of the aunts in Susan L Mitchell’ s notes after the death of her father, perhaps they are the daughters noted above.

Newspaper announcement of marriage
May 1843
Susan, second daughter of the late George Mitchell, solicitor of Parsonstown to Captain Wegg.
( no mention of Susan in the published tree).

There is mention of Thomas Mitchell, Secretary to the Grand jury, King’s County in 1840s so perhaps that is a brother to George rather than a son  :-\

It is quite possible that the same first names were used within the branches of the family and the above notes may have no relevance to your quest re the autographs other than Susan Langstaff Mitchell’s father was an Offaly man and only resided in Leitrim.
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 25 April 18 07:32 BST (UK)
The will of Susan Wegg 1884
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/search/cwa/details.jsp?id=1639580133

Proven by Margaret Mitchell, spinster of Wellington road  and Thomas Mitchell, solicitor, Parsonstown
Who is Thomas?

Death of Susan of Wellington Road https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1884/06308/4808562.pdf
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 25 April 18 07:48 BST (UK)
Thomas Mitchell, solicitor, Birr in 1901 - not that there is a son Fitzroy D Mitchell 10yrs.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/King_s_Co_/Birr_Urban/Oxmantown_Mall/1462108/

Fitzroy Dunlap Mitchell b 1891 - mother Fanny Mitchell (her maiden name).

This Thomas Mitchell was the son of Adam
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1877/11142/8080931.pdf
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 25 April 18 07:50 BST (UK)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Langstaff_Mitchell

Her father Michael Thomas Mitchell. Died Carrick on Shannon 1873.
Mother Kate Cullen died 1913, Dublin

A published tree shows him as son of Adam Mitchell (1816-1892) and Barbara Foster.

Might be best to look at what is given and assess what you would like after that  :)

This information is wrong - it is Thomas Mitchell (not Michael Thomas) who is the son of Adam.

I am sorry it has become confused so you would be best to jot down info given and cross match with your autographs.
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: ShaneNZ on Wednesday 25 April 18 09:50 BST (UK)
Hello people of County Offaly Ireland.

I research autograph names from a Shakespeare's Birthday Book which has been in my pocession for many years now. Once owned by Surgeon/Dr Thomas Leslie Crooke 1861-1943.

Recently I  stumbled on a site BOARDS IE but the messages were from 2010.
I couldn't gain access to the site as someone named (Sim) Simarillion was looking for these family names also in the Birthday Book among the 800-900 autogtraphs.

Adam Mitchell Crown Solicitor
J (James) Fitzroy Mitchell Engineer (Died young at Buenos Airies).
 
They once lived in Birr in place named "Walcott" which was then taken over by the Hoctor family.
Susan L Mitchell went to stay them in Birr at a stage in her life.

Most people signed on their birthday but left no year.

These were relatives to a great Irish woman Susan L (Langstaff ) Mitchell Poet/Writer 1866 whose autograph is also in the book.

Others appear :

Barbara Mitchell : Sept 25 and a Margaret Mitchell Sept 26. Mary Mitchell: Feb 3 (no years).
A G Mitchell Feb 22 1858
 
I am struggling to find these people as very limited to sites I can access.

Thank you from Shane in NZ.
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 25 April 18 10:00 BST (UK)
Hi Shane,
Not sure why you have reposted the enquiry but in the above posts I think now we have:

Adam Mitchell -son of George and brother of Michael Thomas

J Fitzroy Mitchell - not found - I think - or rather not looked for  :)

Barbara - wife of Adam

Margaret - connected to Susan, daughter of George so ....

Mary - not looked for

A G Mitchell - son of Adam

I know I keep saying write down and check but it is necessary. Several of these people have been linked to civil records, wills etc which you can check and maybe look for others in the family. Those sites are free.

Heywood
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 25 April 18 10:04 BST (UK)
J (James) Fitzroy Mitchell Engineer (Died young at Buenos Airies)

Where does this information come from?
There is a Freemasons entry for 1886 for this man so if he died young, which generation would he be?
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 25 April 18 10:10 BST (UK)
1884

Fitzroy Mitchell, third son of Mr Adam Mitchell, Sessional Crown Solicitor and brother of the popular Secretary of the Kings County Grand Jury, has been appointed Supt Engineer in Rangoon, Burma.

He must have died c 1890 re a pulpit in church in his honour.
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: ShaneNZ on Wednesday 25 April 18 10:24 BST (UK)
J (James) Fitzroy Mitchell Engineer (Died young at Buenos Airies)

Where does this information come from?
There is a Freemasons entry for 1886 for this man so if he died young, which generation would he be?
J Fitzroy information came from the Dictionary Of Irish Archictects 1720-1940.
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: ShaneNZ on Wednesday 25 April 18 10:29 BST (UK)
1884

Fitzroy Mitchell, third son of Mr Adam Mitchell, Sessional Crown Solicitor and brother of the popular Secretary of the Kings County Grand Jury, has been appointed Supt Engineer in Rangoon, Burma.

He must have died c 1890 re a pulpit in church in his honour.
Yes J Fitzroy Mitchell died 1890
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 25 April 18 10:50 BST (UK)
J (James) Fitzroy Mitchell Engineer (Died young at Buenos Airies)

Where does this information come from?
There is a Freemasons entry for 1886 for this man so if he died young, which generation would he be?


Reply#3   

https://www.dia.ie/architects/view/3514/MITCHELL-JAMESFITZROY

James Fitzroy Mitchell, who was born circa 1851, was a son of Adam Mitchell, sessional Crown solicitor for Co. Offaly. On 24 March 1890, when he was thirty-nine, his 'promising career as an engineer was sadly terminated at Buenos Ayres, after nine days' illness'.
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 25 April 18 11:37 BST (UK)
Taking the Cullen family of Catherine Theresa Cullen...and the families they  married

Parkes of Parke's Castle, the Nesbitts, the Wynnes, the Wrays, the Waldrons etc etc etc... All Landed Gentry with vast estates, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if Catherine Theresa Cullen married Michael Thomas Mitchell, who could have been one of the Mitchells of Mount Mitchell in Co. Leitrim, of Fingall, Co. Dublin and of Bordeaux, France!!

Pure speculation of course!!
Yes I am sure Michael Thomas Mitchell is related. Such wonderful work yourself Hallmark and heywood have been able to do for me.


I'd be more inclined to Purchase the Mitchell Pedigree ( Mitchells of Mount Mitchell in Co. Leitrim, of Fingall, Co. Dublin and of Bordeaux, France )  from the National Library of Ireland.
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 25 April 18 15:56 BST (UK)
Beg your pardon, hallmark, I had overlooked the information re James Fitzroy  ::)

Shane,
Am I right now that you have answers to most of those names in your initial request - perhaps you need to track Mary down.
I know I asked re James F but then I did also post that I had found his appointment to Burma and then his commemoration so was happy with that information.

Heywood
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 25 April 18 16:22 BST (UK)
Beg your pardon, hallmark, I had overlooked the information re James Fitzroy  ::)

 
Heywood

No problem at all.... thread does get a bit dizzy!  ;D 
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 25 April 18 16:45 BST (UK)
Yes and I feel as though it could be me  ;)
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 25 April 18 16:49 BST (UK)
Yes and I feel as though it could be me  ;)

I tihink everyone has been found!
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: ShaneNZ on Wednesday 25 April 18 23:38 BST (UK)
Beg your pardon, hallmark, I had overlooked the information re James Fitzroy  ::)

Shane,
Am I right now that you have answers to most of those names in your initial request - perhaps you need to track Mary down.
I know I asked re James F but then I did also post that I had found his appointment to Burma and then his commemoration so was happy with that information.

Heywood
Yes I'm sure you (both) have found everyone. I am still overwhelmed by the amount of imformation posted here. Its been very tricky at times with the Two Mitchell families being related and Im in a different time zone in NZ catching up with replies. But what a journey this is. Thank you Thank you Thank you. As for Mary well I will just hmmmm for now.
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 25 April 18 23:45 BST (UK)
Beg your pardon, hallmark, I had overlooked the information re James Fitzroy  ::)

Shane,
Am I right now that you have answers to most of those names in your initial request - perhaps you need to track Mary down.
I know I asked re James F but then I did also post that I had found his appointment to Burma and then his commemoration so was happy with that information.

Heywood
Yes I'm sure you (both) have found everyone. I am still overwhelmed by the amount of imformation posted here. Its been very tricky at times with the Two Mitchell families being related and Im in a different time zone in NZ catching up with replies. But what a journey this is. Thank you Thank you Thank you. As for Mary well I will just hmmmm for now.


Hmmmm.....   ;D


hMMMM
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: ShaneNZ on Wednesday 25 April 18 23:47 BST (UK)
Hello people of County Offaly Ireland.

I research autograph names from a Shakespeare's Birthday Book which has been in my pocession for many years now. Once owned by Surgeon/Dr Thomas Leslie Crooke 1861-1943.

Recently I  stumbled on a site BOARDS IE but the messages were from 2010.
I couldn't gain access to the site as someone named (Sim) Simarillion was looking for these family names also in the Birthday Book among the 800-900 autographs.

Most people signed on their birthday but left no year.

These were relatives to a great Irish woman Susan L (Langstaff ) Mitchell Poet/Writer 1866 whose autograph is also in the book.

Sept 26. Mary Mitchell: Feb 3 (no birthdate year)  The Last one on the list thanks to Hallmark and Heywood for all their intensive searches to find the others.
 
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 26 April 18 04:53 BST (UK)


Most people signed on their birthday but left no year.

 

Sept 26. Mary Mitchell: Feb 3 (no birthdate year)  The Last one on the list thanks to Hallmark and Heywood for all their intensive searches to find the others.
 

So Mary Mitchell had 2 birthdays   ??
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: ShaneNZ on Thursday 26 April 18 07:02 BST (UK)


Most people signed on their birthday but left no year.

 

Sept 26. Mary Mitchell: Feb 3 (no birthdate year)  The Last one on the list thanks to Hallmark and Heywood for all their intensive searches to find the others.
 

So Mary Mitchell had 2 birthdays   ??
No this was my mistake Mary Mitchell Feb 03
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: heywood on Thursday 26 April 18 07:33 BST (UK)
Shane,

We have given you some free sites to search yourself - Irish Genealogyn wills and census for example.

Here is a will for Mary Mitchell http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014913/005014913_00425.pdf

She is a spinster and admin has been granted to Adam Mitchell M D so presumably he is the doctor.

I can’t find her death though in Irish Genealogy.

To complicate matters there are two Adam Mitchells who are doctors - Adam and Adam G in 1901  :-\

You have an autograph of A G Mitchell so presumably yours.


Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: heywood on Thursday 26 April 18 09:32 BST (UK)
You will have to look at this Shane and try to sort out with your notes
Adam Mitchell married to Harriet
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Queen_s_Co_/Borris_in_Ossory/Townparks__Part_of_/1652076/
Marriage of Adam Mitchell - Father Adam, a Solicitor, to Harriet Scott Mitchell

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1882/10968/8009084.pdf

Adam G Mitchell married to Bessie -already noted earlier but just noticed he is born Limerick  :-\

Marriage to Bessie Manifold -  Adam Garrett with father Adam, Gentleman.

Now, Mary Mitchell, death not found, died 1904 according to the will and Adam Garrett Mitchell died 1901 so she must be connected to the Adam who is married to Harriett - or Harriett as she was also a Mitchell-  phew!

However, as you have  Adam G’s autograph and Manifold notes, Adam G is connected somehow.

Hmmmm..... not sure it’s the same tune, Hallmark  ;)
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 26 April 18 10:19 BST (UK)
You will have to look at this Shane and try to sort out with your notes
Adam Mitchell married to Harriet
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Queen_s_Co_/Borris_in_Ossory/Townparks__Part_of_/1652076/
Marriage of Adam Mitchell - Father Adam, a Solicitor, to Harriet Scott Mitchell

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1882/10968/8009084.pdf

Adam G Mitchell married to Bessie -already noted earlier but just noticed he is born Limerick  :-\

Marriage to Bessie Manifold -  Adam Garrett with father Adam, Gentleman.

Now, Mary Mitchell, death not found, died 1904 according to the will and Adam Garrett Mitchell died 1901 so she must be connected to the Adam who is married to Harriett - or Harriett as she was also a Mitchell-  phew!

However, as you have  Adam G’s autograph and Manifold notes, Adam G is connected somehow.

Hmmmm..... not sure it’s the same tune, Hallmark  ;)


Hmmm!


It does have a certain air!  But needs mulling over.
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: heywood on Thursday 26 April 18 10:23 BST (UK)
I am hoping Shane will pull it together  :)
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 26 April 18 10:26 BST (UK)
I am hoping Shane will pull it together  :)


The wherewithall to do so has been posted.
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: Fransgenes on Wednesday 05 June 19 20:11 BST (UK)
Hi, my husband’s great grandfather is Adam Mitchell,b.1855, doctor/surgeon who lived in Borris
- in - Ossery. He married Harriett Scott Mitchell b.1854.  I wondered if anyone has published a family tree of either of these two, as I am finding all these Mitchells very confusing, despite getting a lot of help from this thread.
I know a little of what happened to some of Adam and Harriett’s children, if anyone is interested.
Thanks 🙂
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 05 June 19 21:59 BST (UK)
Registration District : Donaghmore  https://www.swilson.info/regdistmap.php?gregdistid=57

 district dissolved start 1887
, and townlands assigned to Roscrea & Urlingford

So you need to change Districts depending on dates.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp

Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: Fransgenes on Thursday 06 June 19 09:03 BST (UK)
Thanks Hallmark, I’m beginning to make progress. I now realise that The brothers Adam (MD) and Thomas Mitchell (solicitor) both married their cousins, the sisters Harriett Scott Mitchell and Fanny Mitchell respectively. It  clarifies a lot! If I’m not right, do say! 🙂
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 06 June 19 09:07 BST (UK)
Thanks Hallmark, I’m beginning to make progress. I now realise that The brothers Adam (MD) and Thomas Mitchell (solicitor) both married their cousins, the sisters Harriett Scott Mitchell and Fanny Mitchell respectively. It  clarifies a lot! If I’m not right, do say! 🙂


Haven't looked.....   ;D
 
Too busy looking for my own stuff with Births to 1918 now online.
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: dathai on Thursday 06 June 19 10:32 BST (UK)
Adam and Thomas Mitchell of Walcot
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01nw7/
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: Fransgenes on Thursday 06 June 19 10:50 BST (UK)
Thankyou so much Dathai, that is wonderful! Thanks for being so helpful! 😀
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: dathai on Thursday 06 June 19 11:57 BST (UK)
May be of interest      Adam named as a subscriber
https://archive.org/details/earlyhistoryofto00cookuoft/page/n5
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: Fransgenes on Thursday 06 June 19 16:48 BST (UK)
Many thanks dathai, I am most grateful for any information you can throw my way. I don’t know how people unearth these documents! Having dipped into it, it looks like fascinating reading in itself. I am always amazed how kind people can be, so thankyou again.
I have just discovered that James Daniel Mitchell was married in Coleraine in 1850. We lived there for many years without realising there was any family connection!
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: dathai on Friday 07 June 19 07:12 BST (UK)
From Thomas Mitchell's will
George Cullen Mitchell born Leitrim
marriage's two to Ellen O'Neill
August Reg Office 1892
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1892/10643/5877649.pdf

November 1892 Wereburgh St Church
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1892/10652/5880795.pdf

1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Rathfarnham/Terenure/1283587/

1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Glasnevin/Iona_Drive/16321/

John James Mitchell born Leitrim
1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Clare/Kilrush_Urban/Frances_Street/1082077/

1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tipperary/Nenagh_East_Urban/Birr_Road__Nenagh_North__Pt__of_/820389/

1912 married Bessie Bowler Brew
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1912/09914/5603331.pdf

Elizabeth Brew born 1879 mother Susan Daxon
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1879/02914/2067954.pdf

one known daughter born 1918 Susan NANCY Dax/yon in Leeson St father at Kanturk
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1918/01273/1527917.pdf
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: Fransgenes on Saturday 08 June 19 08:21 BST (UK)
Thank you very much Dathai, that’s a bumper crop, and filled in many gaps for me! I spent a lot of time yesterday digesting the information. I have sent for James Daniel Mitchell’s marriage cert to get more details of his wife, Margaret Dunlop, as they are my husbands direct ancestors (along with Adam and Barbara Mitchell). I’ll post any info I get. I also found that Harriett Scott Mitchell b. Feb 1890 in Queens Co. married late in life  (in 1945 to Alexander Ratti) and died in Croyden in 1963. It took ages to find the marriage as he had been transcribed as Batt on the 1939 census and the date was nearly illegible.
Many thanks once again for all your invaluable help. 🙂
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Saturday 08 June 19 13:53 BST (UK)

I also found that Harriett Scott Mitchell b. Feb 1890 in Queens Co........


For reference, #62
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1890/02441/1908225.pdf

1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Queen_s_Co_/Borris_in_Ossory/Townparks__Part_of_/1652076/
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003829882/

KG

Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: Fransgenes on Sunday 09 June 19 18:36 BST (UK)
Yes, that’s the one!  I found out she ended her days in Holmsdale road, just opposite the Crystal Palace football ground! (Handy for some...) I was glad to see she didn’t end her days destitute as her life unravelled somewhat after such a promising beginning.
Thankyou Kiltaglassan for for taking the time to help. 🙂
Title: Re: Any one connected to name "Mitchell" from Birr County Offaly
Post by: Fransgenes on Sunday 16 June 19 21:36 BST (UK)
I have marriage information about James Daniel Mitchell, described as an accountant, residing in Ballymena, (father George Mitchell, solicitor) who married Margaret Dunlop, residing in Coleraine, (her father is Archibald Dunlop, merchant). Date August 15 1850, Ballyrashane Church,  Coleraine. I had hoped for more detailed information of their addresses but only the towns are given. James went on to become a bank manager in Dublin.