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Title: John Dorrington
Post by: zetlander on Tuesday 24 April 18 12:08 BST (UK)
John Dorrington according to the 1881 census (when he was living in Leeds) was born in Whittlesey
in c 1852.

Have been unable to find him on 1861 and 1871 censuses.

Which Church in Whittlesey would he have been baptised in (1852) and where can those records be accessed?

Many thanks.
Title: Re: John Dorrington
Post by: groom on Tuesday 24 April 18 12:58 BST (UK)
Looking on Freebmd there is no John Dorrington born in Cambridgeshire between 1850 and 1855.

There are at least 3 trees with him on Ancestry, but none have managed to find his birth or parents! A man of mystery.

Have you got his marriage certificate to find his fathers name, which might help?
Title: Re: John Dorrington
Post by: trish1120 on Tuesday 24 April 18 13:33 BST (UK)
If its any help his Marriage to Amy Thomason names his Father as James.
Title: Re: John Dorrington
Post by: keyboard86 on Tuesday 24 April 18 13:59 BST (UK)
Hi all their were two earlier threads on US Lookups and Canada Lookups in 2016 about John Dorrington.
Keyboard86
Title: Re: John Dorrington
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 24 April 18 14:22 BST (UK)
Lots of back ground info in the earlier post on Canada - will post for information purposes to show what "chatters" found.

Reply 48 said.......................

"First 'sighting' is in 1885 when he's a widower age 31 and marries Amy Thomason. His father's name is given as John Dorrington"

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=757634.0

Sandra
Title: Re: John Dorrington
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 24 April 18 15:22 BST (UK)
Lots of back ground info in the earlier post on Canada - will post for information purposes to show what "chatters" found.

Reply 48 said.......................

"First 'sighting' is in 1885 when he's a widower age 31 and marries Amy Thomason. His father's name is given as John Dorrington"

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=757634.0

Sandra

Familysearch has his father as James which is what Trish has posted  :-\    Is it transcribed wrong

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NF3C-HKD
Title: Re: John Dorrington
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 24 April 18 15:52 BST (UK)
Zetland needs to answer that question - perhaps it was just an error back in October 2016

Sandra
Title: Re: John Dorrington
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 24 April 18 16:38 BST (UK)
Snip from marriage cert

Title: Re: John Dorrington
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 24 April 18 16:40 BST (UK)
Thank you Gadget  ;D

Rosie
Title: Re: John Dorrington
Post by: keyboard86 on Tuesday 24 April 18 16:52 BST (UK)
So I did not read through all Canada thread, but on GRO Index a Margery Dorrington birth was registered 1897 Biggleswade 03b 379 mmn Thomason, or has this already been located?
Keyboard86
Title: Re: John Dorrington
Post by: groom on Tuesday 24 April 18 16:57 BST (UK)
I wonder how much information zetlander has now, as it looks as if they just want John's place of birth? This doesn't look as if it was Cambridgeshire though.
Title: Re: John Dorrington
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 24 April 18 17:16 BST (UK)
I can’t find him in 1881 in Leeds  ???

Can anyone just give me a pointer please?
Title: Re: John Dorrington
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 24 April 18 17:21 BST (UK)
Have found a bpt in 1852 but no father's name given.

Tydd St Giles (N. Cambridgeshire)

John Thomas Dorrington bpt 14 Sept 1852
Mother given as Susan, no father's name

Has this been mentioned before?

Title: Re: John Dorrington
Post by: groom on Tuesday 24 April 18 17:26 BST (UK)
Can't find 1881 at the moment but 1901 is

Hunslet Yorks
RG13; Piece: 4196; Folio: 66; Page: 35

John Dorrington   49            Whittlesea, Cambridgeshire
Amy Dorrington   36            Arlesey, Bedfordshire
May Dorrington   11            Grantham, Lincolnshire
Andalusia Dorrington   10    Leeds, Yorkshire
Clifford Dorrington   6      Leeds, Yorkshire
Magery Dorrington   4      Leeds, Yorkshire
Thomas P Dorrington   4      Leeds, Yorkshire
Title: Re: John Dorrington
Post by: groom on Tuesday 24 April 18 17:32 BST (UK)
Have found a bpt in 1852 but no father's name given.

Tydd St Giles (N. Cambridgeshire)

John Thomas Dorrington bpt 14 Sept 1852
Mother given as Susan, no father's name

Has this been mentioned before?

That's probably this birth?

Births Jun 1852   
DURRINGTON    John Thomas        Wisbech    3b   592

No maiden name given on the GRO site so possibly illegitimate.  Could this be why we can't findJohn in early censuses? Possibly he made up a father on his marriage certificate?
Title: Re: John Dorrington
Post by: groom on Tuesday 24 April 18 17:38 BST (UK)
Forget that as he died as a baby.

John Thomas Durrington
Registration Year:   1852
Registration Quarter:   Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district:   Wisbech
Volume:   3b
Page:   357
Title: Re: John Dorrington
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 24 April 18 17:41 BST (UK)
 :(

It looked quite good as it was roughly same area
Title: Re: John Dorrington
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 24 April 18 17:45 BST (UK)
Thanks groom.
I found later censuses but not 1881 as zetlander states.
Title: Re: John Dorrington
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 24 April 18 17:49 BST (UK)
Throwing this one in as a John with father James in 1861. A bit further north but.....

Louth Lincolnshire

RG9/2382/62/8
Title: Re: John Dorrington
Post by: keyboard86 on Tuesday 24 April 18 18:25 BST (UK)
Hi Groom, I think the Thomas P Dorrington was b March qtr 1901 Hunslet mmn Thomason and in 1911 is an Inmate in Fulwood, Sheffield as Philip Dorrington b Leeds, and departed Liverpool for Quebec as Philip Thos DARRINGTON perhaps 1926?
These multiple threads so confuse me?!
Keyboard86
Title: Re: John Dorrington
Post by: zetlander on Tuesday 24 April 18 20:58 BST (UK)
Thanks for the replies.
Apologies, the first census I have him is the 1891 census - in Leeds  --  not 1881.

He states he was a widower when he married in 1885 but I have been unable to find his first marriage.
There was a John Dorrington in Ely? court for horse stealing. He is listed as John Dorrington - alias John Pearson - not sure if this is the right John Dorrington.

His daughter Andalusia went to the USA - became Andalusia Grimard - moved to Canada.
On one of the censuses she states her father to have been Welsh!

From 1891 I have found what became of all the family members - the problem I have is knowing nothing about the elusive John Dorrington before 1885.
Title: Re: John Dorrington
Post by: zetlander on Thursday 06 June 19 13:25 BST (UK)
(have posted in the past about him!)

John Dorrington - first 'sighting' in 1885 when he got married to Amy Thomason in Hitchin - said he was a widower and the son of John Dorrington ag lab.
 According to subsequent censuses he said he was born in Whittlesey Cambs in c1852 and worked as an iron planer.

Know all about him from 1885 on - his children - his death etc but before 1885 absolutely nothing.

Anyone help fill any gap between 1852 and 1885 -   many thanks - and apologies for requesting help about this guy yet again.


Thread merged with previous post.
Title: Re: John Dorrington
Post by: trish1120 on Friday 07 June 19 16:28 BST (UK)
Just in case Susan was his Mother 1861 she is a servant in Limcolnshire born c 1837 St Giles, Cambridgeshire.

1851 she is a servant in Lincs also as Susan Dorington born c 1833 Tid St Giles, Cambridgeshire (sic)

She married Iley GRANT 18 Oct 1864 St Michael, Coningsby, Lincs
Her Father JOHN Dorrington a Labourer

2 Children to them;
BENJAMIN Bapt    04 Aug 1867
ROBERT Bapt 23 Apr 1869

1871 in Coningsby we have;
Susan Grant, 60, Head, Unm, born Conningsby
Susan Grant, 36, Sister, Widow, born Wisbech, Cambridgeshire
Robert Grant, 3, Sisters Son
Benjamin Grant, 2, Nephew

I think this should be Sister in Law.

ILEY Grant was buried 13 Jul 1870 age 65

1881 Benjamin is in the workhouse.

Susan GRANT was buried 28 Feb 1876 age 43 (1833)

1841 in Tydd St Giles we have;
John Darrington, 40, Ag Lab
Mary Darrington, 25
Henry Darrington, 13
SUSAN Darrington, 8
Mary Darrington, 5
Holland Darrington, 3

1851 Census
John Durrington   50
Mary Durrington   49
Mary Durrington   13
Henry Durrington 23
Holland Durrington 12
John Durrington   4, Son***
.
**This John appears to be reg 1846, no Mothers mn
(he appears to have died 1870 age 24

I can find Mary D*rrington (the Mother above) 1871 Census but not in 1861 to see if she has any Grandchildren with her.

Cant find Holland in 1861 either but all Census later he is there and married.

1871 Mary D she has a Granddaughter Mary Ann Durrington born 1863 Tydd St Giles, with her Cambridgeshire.
Possible 1862 Birth Reg has her as illegitimate also.

Trish :)



Title: Re: John Dorrington
Post by: trish1120 on Friday 07 June 19 16:38 BST (UK)
Gosh lust posted all of that research and then noticed that John 1852, Mother Susan may have died :-[