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Title: John BRUNYEE
Post by: Lizzy Drippin on Tuesday 24 April 18 16:14 BST (UK)
Can anyone help find a marriage between John Brunyee and Joan, I don't have a second name for Joan. John Brunyee was born at Crowle Lincolnshire, 1696 and there are different spellings for Brunyee. Their daughter Sarah was born 1734 Crowle.
I may have asked this question before, but I'm still looking and perhaps they didn't marry.
Thanks Lizzy.
Title: Re: JOHN BRUNYEE
Post by: lizdb on Tuesday 24 April 18 16:16 BST (UK)
So he was 38 when Joan was born. Were there older children?
Title: Re: JOHN BRUNYEE
Post by: Lizzy Drippin on Tuesday 24 April 18 16:43 BST (UK)
Hi Joan was John's wife, and she died in 1734. Their daughter Sarah was born in 1720, sorry for the mix up. John and Joan had six children, Sarah the eldest. Lizzy.
Title: Re: JOHN BRUNYEE
Post by: lizdb on Wednesday 25 April 18 15:40 BST (UK)
Sorry if I got confused!

However, facts are the same, he was 38 when eldest known child was born. Makes me wonder that they had moved back to the area having married and had older children elsewhere, making Sarah the eldest to be chr in Crowle.
Title: Re: JOHN BRUNYEE
Post by: emeltom on Wednesday 25 April 18 19:17 BST (UK)
If Sarah born 1820 was the eldest child and her father was born 1796 then surely he was only 24 when she was born?

The baptisms of some of the other children give the mother's name as Jane.

Emeltom
Title: Re: JOHN BRUNYEE
Post by: emeltom on Wednesday 25 April 18 19:28 BST (UK)
sorry the birth year should read 1720

Emeltom
Title: Re: JOHN BRUNYEE
Post by: Lizzy Drippin on Thursday 26 April 18 13:52 BST (UK)
HI I have just had a look at the baptisms for John and Joan's children and the ones I have are Joan's. Are the ones you found after 1834?
I wonder if they just didn't marry for some reason.
Lizzy.
Title: Re: JOHN BRUNYEE
Post by: emeltom on Thursday 26 April 18 14:11 BST (UK)
Sorry about any confusion - I think the ones I spotted with Jane must have been me getting my 1720s mixed up with the 1820s. Disregard that comment about Jane and I'll wind my neck in!

Emeltom
Title: Re: JOHN BRUNYEE
Post by: Lizzy Drippin on Thursday 26 April 18 19:04 BST (UK)
Hi again I thought you might have found a second wife for John, because he would have been left with very small children. Lizzy.
Title: Re: JOHN BRUNYEE
Post by: chempat on Thursday 26 April 18 21:24 BST (UK)
If christened 1719 then not born 1720:

   Sarah Bronyee 
  Christening  18th March  1719
Christening Place:   Crowel, Lincoln, England
Father's Name:   John    Mother's Name:   Joan

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N26C-H5B
Title: Re: JOHN BRUNYEE
Post by: chempat on Thursday 26 April 18 21:45 BST (UK)
A tree on Ancestry has him marrying Joan Lee in 1719  - no source given.
Title: Re: JOHN BRUNYEE
Post by: chempat on Thursday 26 April 18 21:51 BST (UK)
Any use?

http://www.pandcgen.co.uk/trees/2342.htm

Also:

https://www.red1st.com/axholme/getperson.php?personID=I479197645&tree=Axholme
Title: Re: JOHN BRUNYEE
Post by: chempat on Thursday 26 April 18 22:34 BST (UK)
Lots:

http://pages.pacificcoast.net/~deboo/flemings/pages/brunyea.html
Title: Re: JOHN BRUNYEE
Post by: dcbnwh on Friday 27 April 18 10:12 BST (UK)
Sarah's baptism is on this page - https://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=740705&iid=178363

Not very clear but March 1719/20 - i.e. 1720 under the present calendar. The marrige may be on previous pages but I have not found it.

David
Title: Re: JOHN BRUNYEE
Post by: Lizzy Drippin on Friday 27 April 18 17:03 BST (UK)
Hi I have seen the baptism records for Sarah 18/03/1719/20. I have used 1720, because I have the transcript ions from Isle of Axholme Family History Society. Regarding the marriage From 1662-1753 there are only two people with the second name Lee, both men. There are several people with this marriage on their tree and I have in the past asked where they found the information and I'm still waiting for a reply.
I could have missed it. Thanks Lizzy.
Title: Re: JOHN BRUNYEE
Post by: chempat on Saturday 28 April 18 06:43 BST (UK)
Have you tried to contact any of these people?

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/boards/thread.aspx?o=0&m=1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1&p=surnames.brunyee
Title: Re: JOHN BRUNYEE
Post by: Lizzy Drippin on Saturday 28 April 18 16:34 BST (UK)
I haven't, but I will and see what happens.
Lizzy.
Title: Re: JOHN BRUNYEE
Post by: chempat on Saturday 28 April 18 20:48 BST (UK)
You have put:

'From 1662-1753 there are only two people with the second name Lee, both men. '

Are you saying that Joan Lee does not exist, or does not exist in Crowle?
Title: Re: JOHN BRUNYEE
Post by: Lizzy Drippin on Sunday 29 April 18 10:47 BST (UK)
I am saying according to the Isle of Axholme marriage transcriptions there is no Joan Lee or John Brunyee for that matter between 1662-1753. They may not have married or it may have got missed, but I was hoping they may have married elsewhere. It is the spelling of Brunyee that's the problem or it could be me that's missing somethng.
Lizzy.
Title: Re: JOHN BRUNYEE
Post by: chempat on Sunday 29 April 18 12:38 BST (UK)
The death for Joan Brunyee on IGI has her associated with a Joan Palmer born 1689 in Crowle with an alternative name as Joan Lee, and firstly marrying a John Rosse.

Have you explored this strange mixture of surnames?

(The marriage is claimed as 1st May 1719 at Thorne between John Brunyee and Mary Rose, and it looks as if she is a widow)
https://www.familysearch.org/dzpatron/v1/TH-904-67721-1158-22/scale?width=800&ctx=ArtCtxPublic&angle=0
Title: Re: JOHN BRUNYEE
Post by: Lizzy Drippin on Sunday 29 April 18 14:36 BST (UK)
Hi you've solved it and I am very grateful. I have at least three Joan's in my tree or Joanne's. I assumed they didn't like Joan. The baptism for Joane  Palmer, daughter of George and Mary baptism Crowle 1/05/1689. She married John Ross 10/05/1709  Crowle. The marriage between John Brunyee junior,  which he is and Mary Ross 1719 as you said widow no idea why Mary, but I am sure you got it right. I have found a burial for John Ross 13/12/1716 Crowle. A big thank you Lizzy.
Title: Re: JOHN BRUNYEE
Post by: chempat on Sunday 29 April 18 16:48 BST (UK)
It was worth doing because he also happens to be one of my ancestors. 

I did not know who Joan was, so was just waiting for someone to come along and do the work, and also more information gets put on-line all the time for those of us who do not live close-by.

Win-win all round.
Title: Re: BRUNYEE
Post by: dinny on Monday 14 May 18 09:39 BST (UK)
Hi - Do the surnames Stones, Kitchen, Kitching, Marjason mean anything to you.  Crowle is a location for my ancestors and the surname Brunyee enters the mix.  Lincolnshire.  Regards - Dinny.
Title: Re: John BRUNYEE
Post by: chempat on Wednesday 16 May 18 06:47 BST (UK)
Not in my ancestors - but do not know about Lizzy's.

Were you aware of this group:

http://www.axholme-fhs.org.uk/parishes.html
Title: Jane BRUNYEE
Post by: Archivist_47 on Wednesday 26 September 18 17:05 BST (UK)
I have a Jane Brunyee 1813 - 1891 marrying Thomas Foster 1811- 1885. They had Sarah Jane Brunyee 1839 - 1922. Can anyone expand on this growing family?
Title: Re: John BRUNYEE
Post by: chempat on Wednesday 26 September 18 20:11 BST (UK)
Do you mean daughter was Sarah Jane Foster mmn Brunyee born September quarter 1838 at Thorne?

Expand in which direction?
Title: Re: John BRUNYEE
Post by: Archivist_47 on Wednesday 26 September 18 20:40 BST (UK)
I'm trying to find a link between Thomas Foster who married Jane Brunyee; and Robert Foster b. 1785 Crowle and another Jane Brunyee. They had John in 1821 followed by Sarah, David and Elizabeth and 3 others.
Title: Re: John BRUNYEE
Post by: chempat on Thursday 27 September 18 06:46 BST (UK)
You want a link  between the Fosters (Thomas and Robert ) not the Brunyees, then?
Title: Re: John BRUNYEE
Post by: chempat on Thursday 27 September 18 06:58 BST (UK)
Just for reference:

Year out?
John Foster   
christening: 7 June 1820 Crowle Lincoln   father: Robert Foster   mother: Jane
Title: Re: John BRUNYEE
Post by: Archivist_47 on Thursday 27 September 18 09:21 BST (UK)
Yes, the Foster connection eludes me.