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Title: Marriage record for John and Rebekah Thake
Post by: MacGrigor on Wednesday 25 April 18 07:46 BST (UK)
Hello,

John and Rebekah were baptising children in Ashdon around 1814. I haven't found any marriage record yet.

I'd appreciate any help,

Adam
Title: Re: Marriage record for John and Rebekah Thake
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 25 April 18 07:55 BST (UK)
Have you tried SEAX  :-\
http://seax.essexcc.gov.uk/Default.aspx?SearchDocs=1&intSearchType=11
Title: Re: Marriage record for John and Rebekah Thake
Post by: jonw65 on Wednesday 25 April 18 07:58 BST (UK)
John Thake married Rebecca Fitch at Ashdon, 3 December 1812
He was of Radwinter
Details on FreeReg
John
Title: Re: Marriage record for John and Rebekah Thake
Post by: MacGrigor on Wednesday 25 April 18 08:17 BST (UK)
Thanks! Can you find anything on John Thake or Rebecca Fitch?
Title: Re: Marriage record for John and Rebekah Thake
Post by: jonw65 on Wednesday 25 April 18 08:50 BST (UK)
Well, Rebecca Thake was buried at Radwinter, 6 February 1831, age 42
Image here of BT, rather faint (need to be logged in)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-65HH-GY?i=543&cc=1465710&cat=515715

Nothing obvious on Free Reg for a Rebecca Fitch in Ashdon, the nearest match there is
26 August 1787
Rebecca
parents William + Mary Fincham :-\
Title: Re: Marriage record for John and Rebekah Thake
Post by: MacGrigor on Wednesday 25 April 18 09:23 BST (UK)
Thanks!
Title: Re: Marriage record for John and Rebekah Thake
Post by: robesur on Wednesday 25 April 18 12:56 BST (UK)
John Thake was born 9 March 1787 in Wimbish and was baptised in that parish 8 April 1787 , the son of John Thake and Susan Redhouse. He died in Radwinter 9 Sep. 1847 age 60 and was buried in Radwinter 26 Sep 1847
Title: Re: Marriage record for John and Rebekah Thake
Post by: MacGrigor on Wednesday 25 April 18 14:08 BST (UK)
Thank you very much!
Title: Re: Marriage record for John and Rebekah Thake
Post by: LizzieL on Wednesday 25 April 18 16:10 BST (UK)
May be connected.
Looking at censuses for Fitches born Ashdon, there is a William b 1794 - 1798 (depending on which census) and a Samuel b abt 1802. These match with a William bapt 9 Apr 1797  and  Samuel bapt   30 May 1802 at Ashdon sons of William and Jane.
Best match for marriage is William Fitch bach to Jane Walls sp otp on 24 Oct 1786 at Steeple Bumpstead by licence, grooms parish Old Samford, Essex (probably Great Sampford)
Witnesses look like Henry Cooke and Jos Rush. wits signed, brideand groom made mark.
there is a baptism in Steeple B for a Samuel s/o William and Jane on 25 Dec 1791.
There is a Samuel Fitch buried in Ashdon on 3 July 1791, but no indication of his age.
 


     

Title: Re: Marriage record for John and Rebekah Thake
Post by: MacGrigor on Wednesday 25 April 18 16:20 BST (UK)
What's the connection to Mary Fitch?
Title: Re: Marriage record for John and Rebekah Thake
Post by: LizzieL on Thursday 26 April 18 07:44 BST (UK)
Who's MARY Fitch?
Title: Re: Marriage record for John and Rebekah Thake
Post by: MacGrigor on Thursday 26 April 18 08:07 BST (UK)
Sorry, Rebecca.
Title: Re: Marriage record for John and Rebekah Thake
Post by: LizzieL on Thursday 26 April 18 09:05 BST (UK)
It's just a possibility that they are related, possibly even Rebecca's parents. Assuming William and Jane in Steeple B are the same couple who turn up in Ashdon, the timeline would be:
William Fitch and Jane Wall married in Steeple Bumpstead in 1786
Samuel bapt S B 1791
William bapt Ashdon in 1797
Samuel bapt Ashdon in 1802
William snr buried Ashdon in 1803 age 55 (born abt 1748)
Rebecca married John Thake in Ashdon in 1812. Witnesses Jeremiah Howes and Simon Richardson
William jnr married Susannah Barker (of Saffron Walden) in Ashdon in 1817. Wit  Ann and Samuel Jackson and Jeremiah Howes (JH has very shaky signature but looks like same as above)
Samuel married Amy Richardson in Ashdon in 1824. Wit Richard Ruse, Mary Greygoose.
Jane Fitch buried in Ashdon in 1834 age 80 (born abt 1854)

W  and J seem a little older than expected but last baby at 48 after 5 year gap is possible. And there is a gap for Rebecca's birth about 1789. So we need to find where they were before they came to Ashdon and where was Samuel 1 buried.

(Later realised that the Samuel buried in Ashdon was earlier in 1791 so cannot be their son, more likely the Samuel who married Sarah Woodhall or their son Samuel.)

Title: Re: Marriage record for John and Rebekah Thake
Post by: LizzieL on Thursday 26 April 18 09:10 BST (UK)
Note on Jeremiah Howes (parish clerk)
https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/5817e417e93790ec75848b14?search_id=5ae1889533045b0ba174f2dd&ucf=false

So not particularly significant he was witness on both William's and Rebecca's marriages.

that was from freereg. I'll look at actual burial record later, but got to go for eye test now!
Title: Re: Marriage record for John and Rebekah Thake
Post by: MacGrigor on Thursday 26 April 18 09:21 BST (UK)
Thanks for your help!
Title: Re: Marriage record for John and Rebekah Thake
Post by: jonw65 on Thursday 26 April 18 09:52 BST (UK)
Possibly the first child of John and Rebecca Thake was Samuel, which is interesting.
Baptized at Ashdon, 24 July 1814
Father a Labourer
BT here
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9Q97-YSLQ-BNL?i=197&cc=1465710&cat=473431
Title: Re: Marriage record for John and Rebekah Thake
Post by: jonw65 on Thursday 26 April 18 10:01 BST (UK)
1794 Overseers Rates for Ashdon
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9Q97-YS29-3SZF?i=880&cat=588611
Has William Fitch living in cottage owned by a Miss Haylock
Title: Re: Marriage record for John and Rebekah Thake
Post by: MacGrigor on Thursday 26 April 18 10:02 BST (UK)
Yes, that's my four times great-grandfather. Married Jane Baynes in Radwinter in 1835.

And ah, thanks for that. That's an interesting piece of information.
Title: Re: Marriage record for John and Rebekah Thake
Post by: LizzieL on Thursday 26 April 18 14:39 BST (UK)
1794 Overseers Rates for Ashdon
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9Q97-YS29-3SZF?i=880&cat=588611
Has William Fitch living in cottage owned by a Miss Haylock

There's a will of William Haylock snr proved in 1794 which leaves property including a clos to his daughter Amey Haylock