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Title: Obit Margaret Jane Lennox, nee Caulfield, death Jan 9, 1936
Post by: Peggy13 on Wednesday 25 April 18 16:38 BST (UK)
Hoping the obituary of Margaret Jane Lennox might confirm her placement in our family tree.  Margaret Jane should be the daughter of William Caulfield and Nancy someone. She is the youngest or second youngest child. Margaret Jane married William  George Lennox in 1875 in Woods Chapel. She died in  Aughrim.
thanks for any help
Peggy
Title: Re: Obit Margaret Jane Lennox, nee Caulfield, death Jan 9, 1936
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 25 April 18 16:42 BST (UK)
Are you sure it is the Derry one?

https://www.logainm.ie/en/s?txt=Aughrim&str=on

RC registers are online, free
Title: Re: Obit Margaret Jane Lennox, nee Caulfield, death Jan 9, 1936
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 25 April 18 16:43 BST (UK)
https://registers.nli.ie/
Title: Re: Obit Margaret Jane Lennox, nee Caulfield, death Jan 9, 1936
Post by: Peggy13 on Wednesday 25 April 18 17:04 BST (UK)
Yes, my records say Aughrim, Co. Derry, Ireland. Her religion was Christian Brethern in 1901 and 1911. She was born Ballymoghan, Co. Derry to William Caulfield and Nancy, surname unknown although I would love to know her surname. Nancy's first daughter was Matilda (should be Nancy's mother). Second daughter Rosanna (could that be Nancy's real name), third daughter Margaret Jane after William's mother.
Matilda named first daughter Ann Elizabeth and Margaret Jane named first daughter Elizabeth.
Interesting.
Peggy
Title: Re: Obit Margaret Jane Lennox, nee Caulfield, death Jan 9, 1936
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 25 April 18 17:27 BST (UK)
So many Aughrims!

Have you a Link to them on Census?
Title: Re: Obit Margaret Jane Lennox, nee Caulfield, death Jan 9, 1936
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 25 April 18 17:31 BST (UK)
Not yours but maybe related??

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Ballymoghan/Ballymoghan_Beg/612762/
Title: Re: Obit Margaret Jane Lennox, nee Caulfield, death Jan 9, 1936
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 25 April 18 17:35 BST (UK)
Yes, my records say Aughrim, Co. Derry, Ireland. Her religion was Christian Brethern in 1901 and 1911. She was born Ballymoghan, Co. Derry to William Caulfield and Nancy, surname unknown although I would love to know her surname. Nancy's first daughter was Matilda (should be Nancy's mother). Second daughter Rosanna (could that be Nancy's real name), third daughter Margaret Jane after William's mother.
Matilda named first daughter Ann Elizabeth and Margaret Jane named first daughter Elizabeth.
Interesting.
Peggy



She was born Ballymoghan, Co. Derry to William Caulfield and Nancy....  When??
Title: Re: Obit Margaret Jane Lennox, nee Caulfield, death Jan 9, 1936
Post by: Peggy13 on Wednesday 25 April 18 17:36 BST (UK)
Not sure how to send links - http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Ballyronan/Aughrim/1532138/
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Ballyronan/Aughrim/612914/
Title: Re: Obit Margaret Jane Lennox, nee Caulfield, death Jan 9, 1936
Post by: Peggy13 on Wednesday 25 April 18 17:37 BST (UK)
I have Margaret Jane's dob as 1856 based on her age at death.
Peggy
Title: Re: Obit Margaret Jane Lennox, nee Caulfield, death Jan 9, 1936
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 25 April 18 17:40 BST (UK)
Not yours but maybe related??

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Ballymoghan/Ballymoghan_Beg/612762/

Looked on Civil Reg for a Marriage for the one on Census...  no luck!!

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01lyb/
Title: Re: Obit Margaret Jane Lennox, nee Caulfield, death Jan 9, 1936
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 25 April 18 17:42 BST (UK)
I have Margaret Jane's dob as 1856 based on her age at death.
Peggy

Too early for Civil Reg.... started 1864 for Births
Title: Re: Obit Margaret Jane Lennox, nee Caulfield, death Jan 9, 1936
Post by: Peggy13 on Wednesday 25 April 18 17:58 BST (UK)
I have Margaret Jane's marriage on Sept 17, 1875 in Parish of  the  Woods (Wood's Chapel, Ardtrea, co. Derry, Ireland, to William George Lennox. First daughter Elizabeth born June 8, 1876 in Aughrim.
Peggy
Title: Re: Obit Margaret Jane Lennox, nee Caulfield, death Jan 9, 1936
Post by: Peggy13 on Wednesday 25 April 18 18:00 BST (UK)
Robert Caulfield and Annie Mary Porter married Apr 29, 1879 in Tobermore Presbyterian Church, Parish of Kilcronaghan.
Title: Re: Obit Margaret Jane Lennox, nee Caulfield, death Jan 9, 1936
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 25 April 18 18:11 BST (UK)
Are they registered on Civil Reg?

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp

Is parents Marriage registered on Civil Reg?


Title: Re: Obit Margaret Jane Lennox, nee Caulfield, death Jan 9, 1936
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 25 April 18 19:05 BST (UK)
Hoping the obituary of Margaret Jane Lennox might confirm her placement in our family tree.

There's unlikely to have been an obituary for her. If you are lucky there will be a death notice but details probably won't list parents. Likely to be something along the lines of LENNOX- at her [or her husband's/son's etc.] residence, ___, Margaret Jane, wife [or relict of the late] ___ Lennox.

Added- there may actually be more of a write-up but as I can only get extracted details I'm not sure how many relatives are mentioned-
Mid-Ulster Mail (Cookstown), 25 Jan.1936:  MRS. MARGARET J. LENNOX, of Aghrim. The death Mrs. Margaret J. Lennox, which took place at her residence, Aughrim, Wednesday. 16th inst., occasioned feelings of deep regret among wide circle friends and acquaintances, and particularly among those...
Title: Re: Obit Margaret Jane Lennox, nee Caulfield, death Jan 9, 1936
Post by: Peggy13 on Wednesday 25 April 18 19:12 BST (UK)
I was hoping. There was an extensive obit for her sister.
Peggy
Title: Re: Obit Margaret Jane Lennox, nee Caulfield, death Jan 9, 1936
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 25 April 18 19:13 BST (UK)
Have just added a bit to my previous reply  ;)
Title: Re: Obit Margaret Jane Lennox, nee Caulfield, death Jan 9, 1936
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 25 April 18 19:16 BST (UK)
... bereaved borne and at the ... The chief mourners were- ... Lennox and B. Lennox (sons); ... Lennox. Jack Lennox, and Bertie? Lennox (grandsons); R. Maguire, ... Derby, W Caulfield (nephews); M. Holland, J. Derby, S. M’Cready and E, M’ ...
Title: Re: Obit Margaret Jane Lennox, nee Caulfield, death Jan 9, 1936
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 25 April 18 19:19 BST (UK)
Mid-Ulster Mail, 18 Jan.1936: LENNOX—January 15. at her residence, Aughrim, Castledawson, Margaret Jane, widow of the late Wm. George Lennox. Funeral to-day (Friday) ... clock family burying-ground, Eglish.

Looks like the date you have for her death isn't correct.
Title: Re: Obit Margaret Jane Lennox, nee Caulfield, death Jan 9, 1936
Post by: Peggy13 on Wednesday 25 April 18 20:18 BST (UK)
Looks like I was a week out on dod. I got the date from other family members.Trying to sort out names of relatives. B. Lennox might be Robert as I have often found Robert called Bertie. Perhaps the Derby and McCready and Maguire and Holland names are married names of daughters. I will try and research this information further.
Thanks
Peggy
Title: Re: Obit Margaret Jane Lennox, nee Caulfield, death Jan 9, 1936
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 25 April 18 21:41 BST (UK)
Looks like I was a week out on dod. I got the date from other family members.Trying to sort out names of relatives. B. Lennox might be Robert as I have often found Robert called Bertie. Perhaps the Derby and McCready and Maguire and Holland names are married names of daughters. I will try and research this information further.
Thanks
Peggy


Are they registered on Civil Reg?

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp

Is parents Marriage registered on Civil Reg?
Title: Re: Obit Margaret Jane Lennox, nee Caulfield, death Jan 9, 1936
Post by: Peggy13 on Wednesday 25 April 18 22:12 BST (UK)
the marriage of William George Lennox and Margaret Jane Caulfield is on irishgenealogy.ie.
I have learned that Grace Lennox, granddaughter of Margaret Jane, married Robert Maguire. then Grace died in Chile in 1985, can't imagine what she was doing there. Holiday?? Her husband Robert had died in 1975 in Belfast. I haven't found the Derby connection yet.
Peggy
Title: Re: Obit Margaret Jane Lennox, nee Caulfield, death Jan 9, 1936
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 26 April 18 23:15 BST (UK)
This might be a clue-

Probate of the Will of Jared Derby late of Lisnamorrow County Londonderry Farmer who died 29 April 1897 granted at Londonderry to William George Lennox of Aughrim and Suffern Garvin of Derrygarve both said County Farmers. Effects £85. His Will says that William George Lennox of Aughrim is his brother-in-law.

Might be connected to above based on unusual first name?
Derby Jared of Ballynagarve Magherafelt county Londonderry farmer died 10 April 1944 Administration Belfast 13 July to Annie Derby the widow. Effects £1875 4s. 7d.
Title: Re: Obit Margaret Jane Lennox, nee Caulfield, death Jan 9, 1936
Post by: Peggy13 on Friday 27 April 18 03:15 BST (UK)
that was a great Help,Aghadowey. I found that Jared married Sarah Lennox in 1870 and I found all their children. Now to find the marriage of Jared Derby, Jr.
thank you
Peggy
Title: Re: Obit Margaret Jane Lennox, nee Caulfield, death Jan 9, 1936
Post by: aghadowey on Friday 27 April 18 09:07 BST (UK)
Jared Derby died 1897 (age 58)-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1897/05868/4663617.pdf

Son Jared Derby born 1886-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1886/02607/1962881.pdf

Sarah Derby in 1901- son Jared age 15-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Ballyronan/Lisnamorrow/1532373

Samuel George Derby might be connected- son named Andrew Jared-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Victoria__part_of_/Newtownards_Road/226189

Derby Jared of Ballynagarve Magherafelt county Londonderry farmer died 10 April 1944 Administration Belfast 13 July to Annie Derby the widow. Effects £1875 4s. 7d.
GRONI's index shows him as age 60.

Marriage: 18 Sept.1925 Magherafelt district- Jared Derby to Annie Orr
Title: Re: Obit Margaret Jane Lennox, nee Caulfield, death Jan 9, 1936
Post by: Peggy13 on Friday 27 April 18 17:02 BST (UK)
Thanks again, aghadowey.  Samuel George was a son of Jared Derby and Sarah Lennox. And thanks for the surname of Annie Orr.  Did her father happen to be James? If so, she may be a sister to Maggie Jane who married Jared’s brother William James Derby.
Peggy
Title: Re: Obit Margaret Jane Lennox, nee Caulfield, death Jan 9, 1936
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 31 May 18 09:43 BST (UK)
Thanks again, aghadowey.  Samuel George was a son of Jared Derby and Sarah Lennox. And thanks for the surname of Annie Orr.  Did her father happen to be James? If so, she may be a sister to Maggie Jane who married Jared’s brother William James Derby.
Peggy

You can get the marriage on GRONI site to see father's name and occupation on marriage certificate.
Title: Re: Obit Margaret Jane Lennox, nee Caulfield, death Jan 9, 1936
Post by: Peggy13 on Thursday 31 May 18 15:29 BST (UK)
Thank you, aghadowey.
Peggy