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Title: Marriage of Thomas and Margaret Corby
Post by: MacGrigor on Friday 27 April 18 07:54 BST (UK)
Hello,

Thomas and Margaret lived in Enfield and were baptising children in 1790. Thomas was born in Enfield in 1761. Can anyone find me a marriage record?

Thanks,

Adam
Title: Re: Marriage of Thomas and Margaret Corby
Post by: ColC on Friday 27 April 18 11:01 BST (UK)
Thomas Corby married Margaret Bray by Banns St Botolph without Bishopsgate, City of London.
4 Jun 1794, both single both signed x. Witnesses looks like Thos Harnup & Rich Swimner?

1 tree on An…….y notes his DOB as 19/7/1761 and Margaret Bray as his wife.

Colin
Title: Re: Marriage of Thomas and Margaret Corby
Post by: MacGrigor on Friday 27 April 18 11:18 BST (UK)
Thank you!
Title: Re: Marriage of Thomas and Margaret Corby
Post by: MacGrigor on Friday 27 April 18 11:21 BST (UK)
But doesn't this 1794 marriage mean they had illegitimate children? My ancestor, Martha Corby, was baptised on the 12th of November 1790, in Enfield.
Title: Re: Marriage of Thomas and Margaret Corby
Post by: MacGrigor on Friday 27 April 18 11:24 BST (UK)
There are baptisms by Thomas and Margaret Corby in Enfield dating back to 1783.
Title: Re: Marriage of Thomas and Margaret Corby
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 27 April 18 11:32 BST (UK)
Hello,

Thomas and Margaret lived in Enfield and were baptising children in 1790. Thomas was born in Enfield in 1761. Can anyone find me a marriage record?

Thanks,

Adam

There are baptisms by Thomas and Margaret Corby in Enfield dating back to 1783.

Which is right  :-\
Title: Re: Marriage of Thomas and Margaret Corby
Post by: MacGrigor on Friday 27 April 18 11:41 BST (UK)
I'd only ever looked into Martha's baptism in 1790, so I used that as the date. I looked after getting the marriage details and found multiple children born before this 1794 marriage, as far back as 1783.
Title: Re: Marriage of Thomas and Margaret Corby
Post by: mckha489 on Friday 27 April 18 12:03 BST (UK)
I don't think it is at all unusual for the children and marriage to be in the "wrong" order. I am sure there are many who could give examples. I certainly can.

 
Title: Re: Marriage of Thomas and Margaret Corby
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 27 April 18 12:12 BST (UK)
Did Thomas and Margaret live long enough to appear on a census  :-\

Does her death give age at death

ADDED it looks like Thomas died in 1831 age 80 so born c1751
Title: Re: Marriage of Thomas and Margaret Corby
Post by: jennifer c on Friday 27 April 18 12:39 BST (UK)
witnesses look to be Thos. Harrup and Rich. Summer or Sumner both were also witnesses at the above wedding.

Jennifer
Title: Re: Marriage of Thomas and Margaret Corby
Post by: ColC on Friday 27 April 18 12:49 BST (UK)
Even if Thomas was born 10 years earlier still no trace of a marriage for him to a Margaret. I note that they had a son Thomas in 1788, I presume he died as their second son Thomas was baptised at the end of 1794. I wonder if they decided to legitimise their union?

Colin 
Title: Re: Marriage of Thomas and Margaret Corby
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 27 April 18 12:50 BST (UK)
But doesn't this 1794 marriage mean they had illegitimate children? My ancestor, Martha Corby, was baptised on the 12th of November 1790, in Enfield.

It is also possible that your Thomas's marriage is not available online  and that the couple were married before having children.  If that 1831 death I quoted is his then he was born c1751, he may have been married before.