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Title: Finally I have found proof.
Post by: Finley 1 on Sunday 29 April 18 22:53 BST (UK)
How many years - have I been searching my Robert Clarke and co... forever it seems..

Sent to America and back

 (I still havent found his birth :(  so the American find may yet prove to be correct)


Anyhow... the trick and the twist was that though I had trailed and trailed church yards and villages in Warwickshire.. I had never until today come across the actual village he died in..


I almost discarded the Will I found, because after checking the distance from where I knew he was buried.. it seemed too far.

Thank goodness I did read it... and enjoy reading it.

This 4 times Grt grandfather of MINE :)  was a man of property ....
And this wonderful Will -  talks of areas of land and 5 Houses -- He mentions his Grandchildren, that I had already discovered.  So many facts that do connect up.....

And information that I had no idea about, regarding his Wife. ... sadly no name for her that I can see as yet.. may well turn up.  But he leaves money to - My Wifes Grandchildren...and his Step children.

So lots more exciting bits of the jigsaw to gather together there.  Whew...

at last
(and it was without DNA)   just due to more records becoming available and me stretching my Boundaries.

There is also a signature on the Will that crops up when his son marries as it is her brother.

Yep

it fits.. excellent.  off to sort the step children and wifes other husband... etc

xin   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Finally I have found proof.
Post by: pinefamily on Monday 30 April 18 00:24 BST (UK)
Well done, Xinia. It's these discoveries after a long slog that make it all worthwhile, doesn't it? I have a similar brickwall that I have just posted about. Hopefully the Rootschat community can help me.
Title: Re: Finally I have found proof.
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Monday 30 April 18 05:11 BST (UK)
Xin,

When I saw the avatar, I thought I was seeing things  :D  What a lovely guesture to remember Rabbit B.

Well done, it sure is nice when one bit comes together after so many years of searching :)


Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Finally I have found proof.
Post by: Finley 1 on Monday 30 April 18 11:21 BST (UK)
Thanks both

still buzzing and putting things together finally found my 4th GG maiden name... its lovely plain old Walker but lovely.. bless her AND a photo on Ancestry of one of her daughters by her first marriage...

 ;D ;D ;D ;D


Yes Kiwi

I miss the lovely Rabbit B - we had a lot of contact and she was never down,always lifted me up when I was.   I created this Avatar for her which she loved.   She created a signature for me.. to put on emails etc.. darn well cannot find it.. but this Avatar I re-discovered and so thought RIGHT xxxxxx
Title: Re: Finally I have found proof.
Post by: terry h on Monday 30 April 18 11:30 BST (UK)
Lovely tribute xin, rabbit was a special lady and never failed to cheer me up also. I too did a double take when I saw the avatar. Hope all is well with you.

Terry :-*
Title: Re: Finally I have found proof.
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 30 April 18 11:40 BST (UK)
I am really pleased you have made some progress without DNA xin  ;D

I am another who was pleased to see your avatar, it brought back special memories of a lovely lady.
Title: Re: Finally I have found proof.
Post by: Finley 1 on Monday 30 April 18 12:52 BST (UK)
I am pleased that a simple thing like my AVATAR has re-awoken our contacts and memories.. bless you all --

I am grateful that Roots chat brought us all together, and the special times we had on the Restoration board..   we had some laughs didn't we.

We should have a 'Virtual' get together of the friends of the restoration board.. 2008 ish maybe xxx

xin

Title: Re: Finally I have found proof.
Post by: Finley 1 on Sunday 06 May 18 21:55 BST (UK)
I would never have believed that after finding the Will

Which is definitely the correct will

It would cause so much work..

Anyhow - found the birth - the two wives - the one child that is my direct line.. the children mentioned and on and on.. etc..  hard work verified as best I can .. and triple checked.. there may yet be some additions. or alterations..   lots of 'archiveal' perusal.... ha ha .. thats what is so much fun.

Alterations and corrections and moving people around the different areas.. its a killer this..
But am going to keep at it.. until I have it well and truly PROVEN

When he died he left property and land to his heirs and their Assigns (thats me.. I am one of his assigns ---- surely 5th gg...) anyway 
by the time it got to my 3 gg its gone.. :(  sold off I have found sales notices and bankrupt notices  etc.... 172 acres of land and 6 houses....... :) 

never mind..   ::) ::) ::) ???

Still when we get out to go and view the areas etc  will be lovely.


xin
Title: Re: Finally I have found proof.
Post by: Finley 1 on Wednesday 09 May 18 10:16 BST (UK)
Right

what a crazy mix up this family -

So today we are off to search the graveyards and the villages where he supposedly was.. might or may just find one of his cottages still standing... better still find a gravestone that tells me everything his full name and dob and dod and his mothers maiden name and  .... and... ha ha.

would be fantastic..

but doubtful

of course it will rain today sorry to say


xin
Title: Re: Finally I have found proof.
Post by: majm on Wednesday 09 May 18 10:43 BST (UK)
Well done Xin,  may this flag that you made wave for me, wave away the rain for you.


JM
Title: Re: Finally I have found proof.
Post by: Finley 1 on Wednesday 09 May 18 16:47 BST (UK)
Thanks JM

one of my first little gifs :)  ha ha  glad its still of use...

Well the day was wonderful and finished off with the naughties Cream Scone and beautiful cup of tea.  :)

We wandered two beautiful villages and graveyards and saw some possibles  But NO definites... the stones were worn too badly -- however one sweet lady librarian from the village is now on the case for me :)

fantastic day -  lovely English countryside on a day like to day - is the best.

xin
Title: Re: Finally I have found proof.
Post by: chirp on Thursday 10 May 18 12:53 BST (UK)
How fantastic that you have your proof! My "Finally I have found proof" moment was also due to obtaining a will. My search, which was long and complicated, had gone on for the best part of 10 years and involved a child registered under his mother's first married name, that lady not marrying the father and that lady then going on to marry someone else. The someone else's will was the key to the proof. I wonderful moment!
Title: Re: Finally I have found proof.
Post by: Finley 1 on Thursday 10 May 18 14:03 BST (UK)
Yes  Chirp ... We must read ALL the documents FULLY -- its sometimes the lodger in a house that is witness to a death that can bring it all together.

xin
Title: Re: Finally I have found proof.
Post by: Finley 1 on Sunday 13 May 18 12:27 BST (UK)
Well what is it now since I found that will

3 weeks - maybe a month.

Am I further forward..


Yes and no, I am now perplexed and confused. 


The Will is marvellous, in that it gives so many - leads and clues as to who the man Writing the will is ---
It gets confusing because it mentions a 'Step' daughter and we all know that could mean the lodgers child (ha ha -- sorry )  but in those days the meaning was different to today.

If anyone is really interested then ask and I can pm...more info :)

So as I say -- you win some you loose some with this particular line..

One of the main problems is the 'Border change' on census returns.. 1871 suddenly Hydes Pasture was moved from Warwickshire to Leicestershire.. which didnt help.
It is actually on the A5 Roundabout so in between both and more.

Then along comes the Will and two other areas mentioned... although they are in Warwickshire are also on the border of Oxfordshire.

So 'guestimating' a particular marriage or baptism - you have to think would they have travelled that far .....

So though I have taken some wonderful steps forward - I cannot actually really, definitely SAY YES that is correct. 

So keeping both branches as an option .. for now.

oh dear :)

love this game.  trouble is its harder to keep all the areas and names in my head these days.. Especially when they name the family all Robert or John.


off back at it

xin