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General => The Common Room => Topic started by: Paulo Leeds on Monday 30 April 18 18:38 BST (UK)
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...please?
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Are you looking for information on her after her birth, or her ancestry?
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Exactly what sort of information are you looking for? The more details you can provide the easier it will be for others to help.
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There doesn't appear to be any birth registered in the Leeds registration district for Doreen Taylor in 1920. There are two in 1923.
Is Taylor her maiden name or married name?
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There doesn't appear to be any birth registered in the Leeds registration district for Doreen Taylor in 1920. There are two in 1923.
Is Taylor her maiden name or married name?
It's this one, Hunslet is part of Leeds.
Births Jun 1920, Taylor Doreen, Hamlet, Hunslet 9b 896
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The 1939 census has just the one match born June 29 1920 On Find My Past but we are not allowed to post details.
Carol
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Parents look likely to be Wilfred Taylor and Beatrice Hamlet, marr Jun qtr 1915 Holbeck.
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The 1939 census has just the one match born June 29 1920 On Find My Past but we are not allowed to post details.
Carol
Do you mean 29 August 1920 Carol? (This one died unmarried in Doncaster in 2005). I don’t think she can be the right person - born after the registration of the Hunslet one.
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AVM. the birth date Carol posted is correct.
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AVM. the birth date Carol posted is correct.
so not the same person?
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Paulo I am not sure who the 29 June 1920 person is. There is a Doreen Fawcett with that birthdate who later married a Taylor, but she is not your person. Maybe others are finding someone who eludes me.
Can you tell us more about exactly what info you are looking for, and what you already know?
Is “your” Doreen definitely deceased?
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AVM. the birth date Carol posted is correct.
so not the same person?
I'm not followingg you...........why not the same person?
ETA: Ah, I get you now. I'm overtired - that's my excuse :)
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Found her in 1939, she's in Blackpool
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Excellent :)
Blackpool sounds good as her younger brother Robert Hamlet Taylor was born in Fylde in 1923 (died 1993).
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OK, so Doreen seems to have died as Mrs Doreen Farrington in Poulton-le-Fylde in 2011 aged 91.
It looks as though she didn’t marry Mr Farrington until 1970 (in Blackpool) - see FreeBMD.
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Her mother Beatrice Ann nee Hamlet was born 5 March 1889 and baptised New Wortley 19 June 1889.
Likely death as Beatrice A Taylor aged 77, Sep qtr 1966 Blackpool.
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Possible death for her father: Wilfrid Taylor aged 74, Jun qtr 1963 Blackpool.
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Excellent :)
Blackpool sounds good as her younger brother Robert Hamlet Taylor was born in Fylde in 1923 (died 1993).
oh wow really? thanks guys, I didn't know of this person (Robert)
so the family is definitely:
Wilfred Taylor, Beatrice Hamlet (my 2nd great-aunt)
Children : Doreen and Robert
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Found her in 1939, she's in Blackpool
I found 4 Beatrice A Taylor's in 1939
How did you know the Blackpool one was her?
(and not Milnrow, Ludlow or Dorking)
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The Blackpool one is correct because of avm's reply at #15 which gives a date of birth for Beatrice as 5th March 1889.
There are five in the household plus one closed record.
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You'd need to check Robert's birth certificate to be sure that he is a member of this family - at the moment he is a strong possibility due to location and the fact that his mother's maiden name (and middle name) was Hamlet. But he died recently enough that his 1939 entry would still be redacted, so we can't say for sure.
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This is what I can't work out:
Wilfred and Beatrice Taylor list a Frank living with them in "Blackpool"
However, no Frank Taylor with "Other occupant" as Wilfred or Beatrice list a Blackpool entry
very confusing
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You'd need to check Robert's birth certificate to be sure that he is a member of this family - at the moment he is a strong possibility due to location and the fact that his mother's maiden name (and middle name) was Hamlet. But he died recently enough that his 1939 entry would still be redacted, so we can't say for sure.
Can you see the 1939 entry for all 6?
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You're putting us in an awkward position. Rootschat's rules are clear that we cannot provide detailed information from the 1939 Register, other than what is available on a free search, for legal reasons. To see the full entry you will need to consult it yourself on Findmypast. If you use the known birthdate for Beatrice A Taylor you will find the correct entry with ease.
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OK, so Doreen seems to have died as Mrs Doreen Farrington in Poulton-le-Fylde in 2011 aged 91.
It looks as though she didn’t marry Mr Farrington until 1970 (in Blackpool) - see FreeBMD.
how did you find that out please?
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The Doreen Farrington death is traceable on Ancestry. if you look at the full entry for the Taylor family in the 1939 Register you will be able to satisfy yourself as to whether the birthdates match and whether the register has been updated with a married name for Doreen.
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The Doreen Farrington death is traceable on Ancestry. if you look at the full entry for the Taylor family in the 1939 Register you will be able to satisfy yourself as to whether the birthdates match and whether the register has been updated with a married name for Doreen.
sorry yeah, please don't breach any rootschat rule.
Regards the "Doreen seems to have died as Mrs Doreen Farrington in Poulton-le-Fylde in 2011 aged 91." on ancestry:
when I put it into Ancestry I only get :
Death
dd/mm/2011 city Lancashire England
I don't get Poulton-le-Fylde or aged 91 ???
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If you haven't got a subscription to Ancestry then no you won't see the full details. I haven't got a sub to Ancestry and I am seeing the same as you.
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Regarding the family on the 1939, if you look at the transcription you will see on the far right, Schedule Sub Number. Notice that the numbers are not in order. If you put them in order Beatrice is under Wilfred.
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thanks,
I have a 13.99 sub to Ancestry and only see 2011, not Poulton le Fylde or Age 91 ::)
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Well I don't know why you are not seeing the full details then if you have a monthly sub. I was under the impression that the year was 2011 not 1911.
Is your sub one that automatically renews?
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Well I don't know why you are not seeing the full details then if you have a monthly sub. I was under the impression that the year was 2011 not 1911.
Is your sub one that automatically renews?
edited it to 2011 sorry.
yeah I'm on the £13.99 direct debit!
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Hi Paulo, what you are seeing is what appears when you don't have a sub or you are not logged in. Check that you are logged in :)
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This is what I can't work out:
Wilfred and Beatrice Taylor list a Frank living with them in "Blackpool"
However, no Frank Taylor with "Other occupant" as Wilfred or Beatrice list a Blackpool entry
very confusing
Not sure why you can't find the full household when you search Frank Taylor and other occupant. I searched Frank Taylor Blackpool, 'Other household member' Beatrice and it was the first in the list.
Frank and Wilfred seem to be brothers.
1901, Hunslet, Leeds, RG13; Piece: 4194; Folio: 105; Page: 15
All born Leeds, except Mary who was born Belfast.
John Taylor 52
Mary E Taylor 50
Henry B Taylor 24
Charles E Taylor 21
Alfred Taylor 19
Frank Taylor 17
Louisa Taylor 14
Wilfred Taylor 12
John B Taylor 9
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The 1939 census has just the one match born June 29 1920 On Find My Past but we are not allowed to post details.
Carol
I now have access to 1939. Did you read that DOB wrong?
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Do I take it that you have found the one I referred to in my reply at #28?
The people in the transcription are in a different order to the original.
You will have to wait for Treetotal to get back to you regarding the June birth date.
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still struggling on this ::)
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Don't understand why?
You have access to 1939 so will have seen her birthdate (2/4/1920) with, as already mentioned, a notation which states she later married a Farrington.
As already posted, she didn't marry until 1970 Blackpool to a Robert C. Farrington.
The death index on Ancestry shows her death entry in Death Index for 2007-2017 i.e. Mrs Doreen Farrington b.1920 (full birth date not shown), died 16/5/2011 Poulton le Fylde (last residence).
From a probate search on the gov. site this confirms her death on 16/5/2011, date of probate was 1/7/2011 at Liverpool Registry.
There is nothing more that any of us can tell you - to get fuller details about her you would have to purchase her marriage certificate, her death certificate, or a copy of her will (or all 3 if you choose to do so). Electoral rolls 2002-2010 simply show her living at 34 Fleetwood Road, Thornton-Cleveleys (apparently alone) and that she'd lived there 26 years. Don't know who exactly her husband was, when he died, whether they stayed together or divorced.
Annette
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Thanks Ann, I've never seen that 1939 for her before til just now
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I have no idea what happened to her husband, Robert C Farrington
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This must be her but says late-husband Bill (not Robert):
https://announcements.johnstonpress.co.uk/obituaries/blackpoolgazette-uk/obituary.aspx?n=farrington-doreen&pid=183781443