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Title: Thomas Partridge 1808-30 OCT 1891 London, ON Canada
Post by: mcadamsd on Monday 30 April 18 19:00 BST (UK)
Looking for info on family of Thomas Partridge birth 2 APR 1808  Dunstable, Bedfordshire, England (based on other user info)

We know he was a carpenter/Joiner and married my 2nd great aunt, Jane Clark, in Port Huron, Michigan 10 Mar 1859.
From the marriage record

By the Rev. M. Hickey, Episcopal Methodist Minister, in the city of Port Huron, Michigan, and at his residence, on the 10th ult., THOMAS PARTRIDGE, Sen Esq., of the city of London, Canada West to JANE, second daughter of the late Mr Donald Clark, Schoolmaster, Petty,Scotland (Donald passed in Scotland in 1853)

We know Thomas and Jane are buried in Oakland Cemetery in London but associated records that might show Thomas' parents were destroyed in a fire.  Death records have no info. 

When Jane Clark's mother passed in October 1869 in London, Ontario, James Partridge is listed as informant of death but cannot find a James Partridge in the area.  Thinking this has to be a relative of Thomas Partridge.

As Thomas and Jane married at around 40 years of age, we wonder if Thomas was previously married.  What we have seen doesn't list marital status at the 10 Mar 1859 marriage.

That also does not list Thomas' parents which might lead us to the mystery James.

The available records for Oakland cemetery only have Jane and Thomas listed.  No other partridge but records are incomplete and cemetery was very neglected for many years
Title: Re: Thomas Partridge 1808-30 OCT 1891 London, ON Canada
Post by: Milliepede on Monday 30 April 18 22:02 BST (UK)
Do you know when Thomas P arrived in the US?  Would he be on a census in England am wondering.
Title: Re: Thomas Partridge 1808-30 OCT 1891 London, ON Canada
Post by: Milliepede on Monday 30 April 18 22:05 BST (UK)
There is a Thomas P marriage in Dunstable 2 Feb 1831 to Kezia Clarke but don't know if that is the same Thomas P.
Title: Re: Thomas Partridge 1808-30 OCT 1891 London, ON Canada
Post by: Milliepede on Monday 30 April 18 22:11 BST (UK)
There's a baptism Dunstable for a James P born April 1808 with a father Thomas.
Title: Re: Thomas Partridge 1808-30 OCT 1891 London, ON Canada
Post by: DonM on Monday 30 April 18 22:44 BST (UK)
The Westminster Township Historical Society have a few Partridge family members listed tied to other families. Westminster is the Township Oakland was part of.  Suggest you contact them, perhaps they can help.  http://www.westminstertwphs.ca/index.html

Don
Title: Re: Thomas Partridge 1808-30 OCT 1891 London, ON Canada
Post by: bbart on Tuesday 01 May 18 08:19 BST (UK)
I have never heard of a Senior Esquire, so from the marriage information where you have "THOMAS PARTRIDGE, Sen Esq"  I am wondering if it should read as  Thomas Partridge Sr., Esquire, meaning he has a son, Thomas Partridge, Jr. from a prior marriage? 
With any luck there is a prior marriage somewhere that would shed light on his father.
Title: Re: Thomas Partridge 1808-30 OCT 1891 London, ON Canada
Post by: mcadamsd on Tuesday 01 May 18 13:05 BST (UK)
Good point regarding Senior Esquire.  That makes sense since we know he was a carpenter/joiner so not related to being a lawyer.  A mis-transcription possibly

There is a Thomas Partridge Jr in London, Ontario in the same part of town as "my" Thomas Partridge and he is a barrister.  He appears in some city directories.  I have been unable to connect them but if this is a son from a pervious marriage, he was not likely living with father in 1859 when he married Jane Clark.

Perhaps someone can access a copy of the marriage in Michigan that could reveal more detail
Title: Re: Thomas Partridge 1808-30 OCT 1891 London, ON Canada
Post by: Annette7 on Tuesday 01 May 18 14:06 BST (UK)
I'm concerned with the opening statement that Thomas Partridge was born 2/4/1808 Dunstable!

Baptisms for Dunstable - both parish church and non-conformist church - are on FindMyPast and there is no such birth/baptism listed (there is as already mentioned a James Partridge born 23/4/1808 Baptist, Dunstable, son of Thomas and Mary of Houghton Regis - they also had William 1797, Mary 1800, Elizabeth 1802 and Eliza 1808). 

How is it known that he is supposedly from Dunstable and born on that date?  You need to have sources and just because 'other users' state it doesn't make it fact when no sources given.

(He wasn't the Thomas who married Kezia in 1831 - that Thomas was a Publican).

You need to establish where exactly this information has come from.

Annette
Title: Re: Thomas Partridge 1808-30 OCT 1891 London, ON Canada
Post by: mcadamsd on Tuesday 01 May 18 15:15 BST (UK)
After Annette pointed out a possible flaw in my research I was able to find my original source of birth date and location

The date and location are taken from the grave marker in Oakland Cemetery.  I guess when I examined it I made note and the image in my tree is rather small so I didn't recall until I blew up the image.

Now the question remains that there does not seem to be a birth or baptism in Barnstable that fits the date.

His spouse Jane Clark is in the same plot and her information is on the same marker.  After reviewing her image I need to return and capture my own image of the marker
Title: Re: Thomas Partridge 1808-30 OCT 1891 London, ON Canada
Post by: mcadamsd on Tuesday 01 May 18 15:25 BST (UK)
I have found that the Thomas Partridge Junior was born about 1831 in England.  He was a solicitor/barrister in London Ontario for many years.

Given the marriage of Thomas to Jane seems to point to a Senior and the two Thomas Partridges lived very close to one another perhaps this is a son from a first marriage.

In 1901 Thomas Jr is a widower and living in a boarding house or hotel.  It lists arrival year as 1839 but so far no record found.

He passes in  25 Jan 1907 in the Clyde Hotel from Bronchitis and is buried at Woodland Cemetery.  Will visit soon to examine marker for additional names

Unable to find a marriage for Thomas Jr.




Title: Re: Thomas Partridge 1808-30 OCT 1891 London, ON Canada
Post by: mcadamsd on Thursday 03 May 18 17:14 BST (UK)
Further digging in city directories finds the suspected Thomas Jr with a wife Sarah.  That lead to an 1871 census that listed family in London Ward 7

Thomas Partridge  39  Lawyer
 Sarah E Partridge  35
 Emma Partridge  16
 Edward O Partridge  14
 Carl B Partridge  10
 Thomas B Partridge  8


Spouse and children all born Ontario.  All list "No religion"

I had seen a marriage of a Thomas Partridge and Sarah Eaton in Bedfordshire 19 Oct 1852  but parent not Thomas so dismissed.  However, census could be in error as to her birth location

No luck so far with other census or death info.  Off to cemetery to see if other names are on marker or in records for the Thomas Partridge Lawyer
Title: Re: Thomas Partridge 1808-30 OCT 1891 London, ON Canada
Post by: RunKitty on Thursday 03 May 18 19:01 BST (UK)
GLobe and Mail newspaper... Feb 15 1858, page 2.

Appointments:  Secretary's Office, Toronto, 13 February

His Excellency the Governor General has been pleased to make the following appointments, viz.

Thomas Partridge, of London, Esquire, Attorney at Law.

There are eight appointments in the list... some other lawyers, 2 assistant county coroners, a couple of notaries public/commissioners for taking oaths. 

RK
Title: Re: Thomas Partridge 1808-30 OCT 1891 London, ON Canada
Post by: RunKitty on Thursday 03 May 18 19:23 BST (UK)
Short death notice in the Globe and Mail 26 Jan 1907.  Under the heading The Forest City (London is sometimes called the Forest City).  Says "Special Despatch to the Globe..London, Ot, Jan 25..."

There is some information about a railway, a death notice of a Mr Kirk, a few other things...then this

An old-time resident of this City, Mr. Thomas Partridge, died today in Victoria Hospital.  Mr Partridge was well known to the legal profession, having been connected with it for a number of years.  He was born in England in 1831, and came to this country when quite young, and lived in London over half a century.  He was the only surviving charter member of Forest Lodge, No. 38, I.O.O.F.   Two sons, Thomas of London township and Edwin of Chicago survive.

RK

Title: Re: Thomas Partridge 1808-30 OCT 1891 London, ON Canada
Post by: mcadamsd on Monday 07 May 18 17:20 BST (UK)
The death looks right.

A trip to Woodland cemetery revealed the following.

They had no birth info but death or burial dates.  There is a large stone but weather the day of visit was bad with winds over 100KPH.  Too many large trees in cemetery  :)  Online image of stone shows just his information

Sarah E.  11Sep 1894
Carl B      19 Mar 1886
Letitia      16 Mar 1942
Thomas B 4 Jul 1938
Emma      4 May 1913

So we know that Thomas died in 1907 but nothing to connect him to Thomas Partridge 1808-30 OCT 1891 so far.  The stone shows birth date as 4 Oct 1831 and death 25 Jan 1907.  Very vice stone and look forward to seeing the other side.

Thomas was a widow when he died of Bronchitis and living in the Clyde Hotel. I can't find the hotel in 1924 city directory and it is a name I have never seen.  Wonder why he was in a hotel when several people listed above were living.

His religion at time of death was Episcopal and there are no informants
Title: Re: Thomas Partridge 1808-30 OCT 1891 London, ON Canada
Post by: mcadamsd on Friday 18 May 18 13:28 BST (UK)
I found an 1851 Canada census that has a Partridge family in Bruce County near Kincardine.

The elder Thomas is listed as a farmer but all other info we have lists him as a carpenter or joiner. It seems odd that he would stop the carpentry trade and take up farming but my grandfather was a carpenter but worked at farming as well.

The census has a wife Elizabeth born about 1811 in England as well as seven children all born England with youngest 3.  That does not seem to fit possible arrivals for Thomas Partridge Jr., the lawyer.

So basically nothing to firmly connect the families

Title: Re: Thomas Partridge 1808-30 OCT 1891 London, ON Canada
Post by: Jomot on Friday 18 May 18 20:34 BST (UK)
Maybe a coincidence, and I haven't looked any further, but there is a Partridge family in Flint, Genesee, Michigan in 1850:

Thomas Partridge 49 Farmer
Ann 45
Ann 20
Thomas Jr 18
John 16
William 12

All born England except William born New York
Title: Re: Thomas Partridge 1808-30 OCT 1891 London, ON Canada
Post by: Annette7 on Saturday 19 May 18 02:03 BST (UK)
The family in Michigan in 1850 were:

Thomas Partridge married to Ann Dawe 26/8/1828 Crediton, Devon.   Children's baptisms show his occupation as a Maltster so changed occupation when he got to US. 

Children: Ann Dawe bp.30/6/1829 Braunton, Devon
              Thomas Dawe bp.11/6/1832 Braunton, Devon
              John b.5/2/1834, bp.3/4/1834 Braunton, Devon.

The Thomas D. Partridge in later census in Michigan is clearly the son above - Thomas D. Partridge b.6/3/1832, d.5/4/1917 in Genesee, Michigan - parents shown as Thomas Partridge and Ann Dawe.

'Your' Thomas Partridge b.1808 is shown when he married in 1859 as marrying in a Methodist Church and shown as a Methodist on 1871 census.   This could be why a baptism in Dunstable, Bedfordshire has not been found if he was from a non-conformist family.

Suggest you check with the Record Office for Bedfordshire to find out if they have any Methodist records for the relevant time frame which are not available online.

Annette
Title: Re: Thomas Partridge 1808-30 OCT 1891 London, ON Canada
Post by: mcadamsd on Saturday 02 January 21 19:13 GMT (UK)
Happy New Year!  Hopefully better than last year.

Doing some digging based on the Methodist info from various documents, I found a baptism

Name:   Thomas Partridge
Gender:   Male
Event Type:   Baptism
Birth Date:   23 Jul 1810
Baptism Date:   26 Aug 1810
Baptism Place:   Bedfordshire, England
Denomination:   Wesleyan Methodist
Father:   
Richard Partridge
Mother:   
Elizabeth Partridge

No match for the birth date that is on the headstone.  Possibly not the only time I have found errors on the headstone. Records unavailable from cemetery.

The baptism has another child on same record and the family is listed as Luton which is close.

There is a second record for a Thomas Partridge that appears to duplicate family but in a different record.

Both attached.


The Dunstable records found a burial for a Thomas Partridge, infant,  08 Mar 1807 at St. Peter, Dunstable.  No original record to view or parents listed