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Are there any sources that might help with finding more information about my ancestral uncles (two brothers) who lived in Dublin in the late 17th and early 18th centuries?
1. Samuel D'Assigny (1674-1737). Whilst a young man, fresh out of Oxford University, he tried to become ordained in the Anglican Church but was refused. Undeterred he traveled in Devon and Somerset preaching under a false license and was eventually arrested by the Bishop of Bath and Wells. He absconded from custody and went to Ireland probably in 1696. He was in Dublin by 1698. He wrote a number of books on his religious viewpoints, and continued to preach, and also conduct marriages, without a license. He traveled back to England in 1702 (he married Sarah Jones in Feb 1702 in London), but was back in Dublin by 1710. He was arrested in Dublin in 1732 for preaching without a license and was in Dublin jail for a couple of months. He was buried at St.Paul's, Dublin in October 1737, where the same year he had a son baptized in September and buried in November. The mother of this child was Judith, so Samuel seems to have married twice.
2.. Fifield D'Assigny (1711-1745). He was educated, apprenticed and married (in December 1735 to Elizabeth Bartlett) in London, but appears to have been in Dublin by June 1737. He lived in Fleet Street, Dublin in 1738 and in Wer Street, (Werburghs Street?), Dublin in 1745. He was buried at St.Werburghs in January 1745. In London he was apprenticed as an apothecary, but in Dublin he claimed the title 'Doctor of Medicine'. He was a Freemason, and wrote books on the subject. His wife was buried in Liverpool in 1743.
Any information on where I might find more about where these two men lived, and what documents they might appear in (and how to find them) in Dublin would be appreciated.
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Possibly in Sam's Registers??
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Thanks hallmark. Unfortunately it looks like the registers are some 60+ years too late for Samuel D'Assigny. Nice to see him mentioned though.
If he was 'notorious', then presumably there must be more recorded about him. I wonder where the quoted text came from?
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The purchased registers are too late...but he probably kept his registers too.
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Most records for them probably aren;t in Dublin..... have you checked Walt Disney's Pedigree?? D'assigny should be on it.
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his wedding to Sarah Jones 17.2.1701 is on family search
http://www.familysearch.org
a few D'assigny listed on this site under England
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The purchased registers are too late...but he probably kept his registers too.
There is no mention of earlier registers in the article. Does anyone know if earlier registers exist, and where they are?
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Most records for them probably aren;t in Dublin..... have you checked Walt Disney's Pedigree?? D'assigny should be on it.
Why not in Dublin? Where should I be looking?
I'm familiar with Walt Disney's Irish family. Despite Disney being an unusual name, there are at least four separate Disney families with completely different origins. The D'Assigny family (antecedents of my Disney line) is a separate family from Walt Disney's researched line.
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his wedding to Sarah Jones 17.2.1701 is on family search
http://www.familysearch.org
a few D'assigny listed on this site under England
Thanks for looking. I've checked all those entries, and the ones on findmypast and ancestry.com. They all seem to connect up to the same family.
The transcript has 17 Feb 1701, but that was old style (hence I put 1702 in my OP).
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Thanks for your answers
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Most records for them probably aren;t in Dublin..... have you checked Walt Disney's Pedigree?? D'assigny should be on it.
Why not in Dublin? Where should I be looking?
I'm familiar with Walt Disney's Irish family. Despite Disney being an unusual name, there are at least four separate Disney families with completely different origins. The D'Assigny family (antecedents of my Disney line) is a separate family from Walt Disney's researched line.
Was another name on the Disney Pedigree I was looking at, rather than Disney.
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Most records for them probably aren;t in Dublin..... have you checked Walt Disney's Pedigree?? D'assigny should be on it.
Why not in Dublin? Where should I be looking?
They married in England....
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Most records for them probably aren;t in Dublin..... have you checked Walt Disney's Pedigree?? D'assigny should be on it.
Why not in Dublin? Where should I be looking?
I'm familiar with Walt Disney's Irish family. Despite Disney being an unusual name, there are at least four separate Disney families with completely different origins. The D'Assigny family (antecedents of my Disney line) is a separate family from Walt Disney's researched line.
Was another name on the Disney Pedigree I was looking at, rather than Disney.
If you could be less cryptic and actually tell me what you are getting at, that would be very helpful.
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Just saying I'm not all that familiar with Disney Pedigree...
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Thank you for that article. My personal research shows that the genealogical information given is wrong (Fifield wasn't the son of Samuel; Samuel wasn't the son of Pierre; Pierre didn't have a daughter called Elizabeth; Pierre married three times; Marius was the son of his second wife). But the descriptions of Samuel and Fifield are interesting. There are also more "quotations" (not just from the newspaper), so there's more out there to find (but maybe only from Bro. Crawley's account - although he must have had sources).
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Just saying I'm not all that familiar with Disney Pedigree...
You imply there is a particular name I should be looking at in Walt Disney's ancestry, other than Disney. I appreciate the other pieces of information you have found. If you think there is another line of investigation to follow, then that would be useful to know.
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Most records for them probably aren;t in Dublin..... have you checked Walt Disney's Pedigree?? D'assigny should be on it.
Why not in Dublin? Where should I be looking?
They married in England....
And both spent a longtime (and died) in Dublin. I was asking whether/what information I might be able to find in Irish records. You suggested Dublin is not the place to be looking. That seems like a deflection away from the obvious source area.
I am confused. Where should I be looking for information on their lives in Dublin, if not in Dublin?