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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Wexford => Topic started by: atmartinas on Friday 04 May 18 22:28 BST (UK)
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I have this record that I believe may be the couple I want.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1922/09205/5330182.pdf
I know my James Murphy b 1893 Ballyart Wexford wed a Margaret O'Leary b 1895 Wexford. My Aunt has recorded that he was a Draper but no other info about him until I recently found out from his descendant that he went to London. I can't find him in 1911, there are a few James Murphys the right age but nothing to indicate if its him or not.
I believe the above is his wedding but I can't be certain. I wanted to try and research the Celebrant as he is Murphy and that would explain why they went to Wicklow to marry. I can't find St Kevins 'Glenasalagh' which is what it looks like to me. I don't have any George J Murphy Priest known to me in my tree but my tree is far from complete.
Thanks
M
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Hello,
Your record doesn’t work as a link. Would a date be better?
Could it be Glendalough? http://www.dublindiocese.ie/parish/glendalough/
Heywood
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Yes it is Glendalough
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1922/09205/5330182.pdf
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Yes it is Glendalough
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1922/09205/5330182.pdf
Sorry about the link, I have fixed it but I see you were quicker than me. Thank you. I will look and see if I can find any parish records for there.
M
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George J Murphy, Priest born Wexford.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Westmeath/Kinnegad/Kinnegad_Town/884335/
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There’s a George Joseph Murphy here https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1886/02589/1956801.pdf
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Thanks Heywood for both links. The George J birth I don't think is connected to my family, my Murphys were Blackwater area mainly and the chap who married was Ballyart. There is a George Murphy, no J but it could be his confirmation name? https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1888/02493/1924800.pdf
This is close enough to the right area I will spend a bit of time looking into it. Both parents were Murphy so I am thinking the mother is my best bet for a link.
M
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Murphy isn’t exactly an uncommon name in Wexford ;)
The Registrar on the link you give is a Murphy.
It is not usual to use a confirmation name and I only gave the link because of the initial - the priest’s second name could be John/James.
The witness is Peter Murphy - have you made any links there?
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Murphy isn’t exactly an uncommon name in Wexford ;)
The Registrar on the link you give is a Murphy.
It is not usual to use a confirmation name and I only gave the link because of the initial - the priest’s second name could be John/James.
The witness is Peter Murphy - have you m ade any links there?
I know that the Murphys sadly are very common, I have Murphys married to Murphys! Yes Peter is a family name in my Murphys and James did have an older brother Peter. I know very little about Peter, my Aunt (her research is my starting point for all research, on the whole I find I can verify but occasionally I find a mistake) My Aunt said Peter went to USA but I don't know when.
The bottom line is I think I will have to accept that this record is probably my James. Age, Occupation and County right, Brides name and age right, Fathers name right, witness also a possible brother. Celebrant a Murphy so could be a reason they went to St Kevins. I think I will never be able to be certain of this one but will put it in my very possibly box.
Thanks again for your help
M
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Deleating
Sorry messed up
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Deleted as no longer relevant. Thanks anyway Sinam for interest.
M.
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I thought I had that deleating before anyone saw it :o just a bit of W confusion ;D
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I have this record that I believe may be the couple I want.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1922/09205/5330182.pdf
I know my James Murphy b 1893 Ballyart Wexford wed a Margaret O'Leary b 1895 Wexford. My Aunt has recorded that he was a Draper but no other info about him until I recently found out from his descendant that he went to London. I can't find him in 1911, there are a few James Murphys the right age but nothing to indicate if its him or not.
Thanks
M
So is this information correct so far? The birth and the marriage?
Does the descendant not know any further information? Did the couples children's births occur in Ireland or London?
Heywood
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I have this record that I believe may be the couple I want.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1922/09205/5330182.pdf
I know my James Murphy b 1893 Ballyart Wexford wed a Margaret O'Leary b 1895 Wexford. My Aunt has recorded that he was a Draper but no other info about him until I recently found out from his descendant that he went to London. I can't find him in 1911, there are a few James Murphys the right age but nothing to indicate if its him or not.
Thanks
M
So is this information correct so far? The birth and the marriage?
Does the descendant not know any further information? Did the couples children's births occur in Ireland or London?
Heywood
Heywood, the Descendant is a new connection made via DNA. I am waiting rather impatiently for more info from her, the children were born Wexford possibly Rosslare but she is not sure.
I am sure our James Murphy, a Draper was b. 1893 in Ballyart and married a Margaret O'Leary I had no idea what became of them after that until I made this connection.
Common names to try searching but the marriage I found in Wicklow is really a good fit for James (approx year, age, occupation, Fathers name and Fathers name and her age correct for Margaret) but James Murphy's from Wexford are not a rare bunch and Margaret Learys are also rather common. I don't know where James was living after 1901 as he was not at home in 1911 and at least 3 possible candidates on 1911 Census that could be him in both Wexford and Enniscorthy but none at the address that the James Murphy who married in Wicklow gave.
I was perhaps clutching at straws trying to find out more about the Celebrant to see if I could connect My James to this Marriage somehow. I don't know if the couple in Wicklow are mine for sure and maybe I never will. Maybe my match knows more about Margaret O'Leary, like her exact place/date of birth which would allow me to check her parents and address. I will just have to wait to hear from her. No patience me!!
I will let you know if I find out, meanwhile I will let this rest.
Thanks again for your help.
M
Hope that makes sense.
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Maybe my match knows more about Margaret O'Leary, like her exact place/date of birth which would allow me to check her parents and address.
My other post wasn't a complete waste so
1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Wexford/Wexford_Urban_No__2/Sea_View_Avenue/1805792/
Margaret's birth registered Enniscorthy
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1895/02213/1835512.pdf
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Maybe my match knows more about Margaret O'Leary, like her exact place/date of birth which would allow me to check her parents and address.
My other post wasn't a complete waste so
1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Wexford/Wexford_Urban_No__2/Sea_View_Avenue/1805792/
Margaret's birth registered Enniscorthy
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1895/02213/1835512.pdf
Indeed maybe not :) I will let you know if I get confirmation of her dates I really hope that is her.
M
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It certainly looks good for the marriage :)
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Hi,
The couple you are researching are my great grandparents! I hope we can help each other with our research! send me a private message!
Hoping for your reply,
Michael
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Hi,
The couple you are researching are my great grandparents! I hope we can help each other with our research! send me a private message!
Hoping for your reply,
Michael
That's great news. Can you confirm that the James who married in Wicklow is James from Ballyart? Have sent my email address by pm
M
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Michael needs one more post before he can receive your PM.
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Michael needs one more post before he can receive your PM.
Thanks for that advice. Hope he does soon. I will be really happy to get this one sorted.
M
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Hi,
The couple you are researching are my great grandparents! I hope we can help each other with our research! send me a private message!
Hoping for your reply,
Michael
That's great news. Can you confirm that the James who married in Wicklow is James from Ballyart? Have sent my email address by pm
M
I spoke to my dad today and he told me that Ballyart sounds very familiar. I will get in contact with my grandmother hopefully she remembers her father's birth place.
I know about this couple's children and descendants, me being one of them.
What else do you know about James Murphy and Margaret O'Leary? Or about their families?
I am trying to explore my family tree so I hope you can help!
Thank you,
Michael
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Thanks to Heywood and Sinann for their help and interest in this. Effort was not a waste I can now use the info you found Sinann
, this is indeed the right couple Michael and I have exchanged pm and all matches up. Happy Days. ;D
M
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That's great, thanks for letting us know.
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That’s lovely news :)