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Where else can I look..I'm researching a convict who is not related to me and I do not know any thing of his family other than he had a brother John.
I have all of him here in Australia its finding more of him and his family in England that I'm after.
Thomas EVANS [ cotton spinner ]..born abt 1837..ship Balgravia arrived 4th July 1866..unmarried [ never married ] Sentence Province Warwickshire. Tried for setting fire to a hay stack... next of kin was his brother John [ cotton spinner ]who in 1866 lived in Elizabeth Street Manchester.
I have looked on many census but any of them could be him or his brother and not knowing his parents names makes it hard.
As I said above I have all of him in Australia it is ENGLAND...that I'm seeking help on
Hope someone can come up with a idea where to look next
Yonks
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FindMypast has several prison records entries for Thomas Evans, age 27, convicted of arson 5 Dec 1864 and sentenced to 8 years penal servitude. One of those records is endorsed "To W Australia, Mar 1866".
Aris' Birmingham Gazette, Sat 10 Dec 1864
ARSON AT BIRMINGHAM - John Tomlinson, 23, cotton bleacher, and Thomas Evans, 27, collier, pleaded guilty to having set fire to a stack of hay, the property of Ann Edkins of Birmingham on Dec 4th last - Eight years penal servitude.
A separate newspaper report records "... Thomas Evans, (27), labourer, Liverpool and John Tomlinson, (23), doubler, Manchester ..."
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The prison records give his occupation as "labourer".
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Previous thread...
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=626780.0
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Thanks for the "tip off"!
regards
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Thanks to all.
Yes..re the tip off!! I have posted before on this and its been helpful thank you, and that Loom St is not far from Elizabeth Street..but still not confirming for me...as I said I have looked at and have copies of all Thomas's and John's Evan's in the 1861 census..plus looked at census after Thomas came to Australia but none are linking John to Thomas. As you can guess..Evans is a common surname. I'm thinking poor Old Tom's research is at a stop, I was hoping that someone had an idea.. other than census
Yonks
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Maybe...
EVANS, JOHN POOL
GRO Reference: 1840 S Quarter in LIVERPOOL Volume 20 Page 397
EVANS, THOMAS POOLE
GRO Reference: 1837 D Quarter in LIVERPOOL Volume 20 Page 202
Parents, Thomas Evans, Ann Pool, married 17 NOV 1833, Saint Luke,Liverpool,Lancashire.
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Hello again,
Can we all take a moment here please..I have so many maybe's!!!!!!!!!!...What I'm asking is where else can I look..as I do not know his parents or what siblings he had other than John.
I have all of his trial and all of him here in Australia, thanks all for trying.
Yonks
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OK sorry, I mistakenly thought you were asking for suggestions.
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Solidrock,
Thats ok..very little is on his Trial records..other than his name where he was from and that his next of kin was his brother.Thomas worked for my Grandparents here in Australia and my Mother grew up knowing him she was nine years old when he died. I just keep coming back to him in the hope to find his family for him, it would be great to be able to let them know where he is buried and to be able to pass on a photo of him.
Yonks
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I am not seeing very many people named John Evans, born 1827-1847 who are recorded in the censuses as cotton spinners. These are the ones I've found:
John Evans, born North Wales circa 1827 (20 Scott Street Manchester in 1871)
John Evans, born Saddleworth circa 1829 (Saddleworth 1861 and 1871)
John Evans, born Llanidloes, Montgomeryshire circa 1832 (Builth 1881)
John Evans, born "Duckenfield" Cheshire circa 1838-1840 (Portland prison 1871, Wakefield prison 1891)
John D Evans , born Manchester circa 1844 (Salford 1861)
John Evans, Born Ireland circa 1834 (15 Buxton Street, Chorlton in 1861)
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No one is reading what my quest is......WHERE ELSE..can I look
..I was hoping someone may have a few idea's on where to look next.
..I have census for all Thomas and John EVANS 1861...and for John 1871..1881..so many could be them. I have all of Thomas in Australia..
I am trying to find his family back in the UK......
Yonks
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No one is reading what my quest is......WHERE ELSE..can I look
I had a feeling you would say something like that, but I thought I'd post it anyway. It might help.
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As I had said in post made today..I have print outs on all Thomas EVANS and John Evans in 1861..also have print outs of John Evans in 1871..1881..none have anything that confirms if they are the Thomas and John that I'm seeking.
copy of my first post today
Where else can I look..I'm researching a convict who is not related to me and I do not know any thing of his family other than he had a brother John.
I have all of him here in Australia its finding more of him and his family in England that I'm after.
Thomas EVANS [ cotton spinner ]..born abt 1837..ship Balgravia arrived 4th July 1866..unmarried [ never married ] Sentence Province Warwickshire. Tried for setting fire to a hay stack... next of kin was his brother John [ cotton spinner ]who in 1866 lived in Elizabeth Street Manchester.
I have looked on many census but any of them could be him or his brother and not knowing his parents names makes it hard.
As I said above I have all of him in Australia it is ENGLAND...that I'm seeking help on
Hope someone can come up with a idea where to look next
Yonks