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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Dublin => Topic started by: grizzly1 on Sunday 06 May 18 22:38 BST (UK)
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Im looking for a birth of a Josephine Hoye in Dublin circa 1918.
Just to add further confusion I note from census entries that there were variations of the spelling of the surname which can also be seen in some cases as Hoye -Hoy -Hoey.
What I do know of Josephine was she married Patrick Kelly circa 1946 (presumably in Dublin)
as a child she had several siblings who all died of Tb in the same year..(I havent any name's or further info on them)
Josephine died in Dublin aged 31 in 1949 and her address was in the North inner City.
Im hoping to link her Birth/marriage details to several Hoye/Hoy entries in 1901-1911 in the North Dock ward's.
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Possible marriage from Family Search
Name Josephine Hoey
Event Type Marriage
Event Date Jul - Sep 1939
Event Place Dublin North, Ireland
Registration Quarter and Year Jul - Sep 1939
Registration District Dublin North
Volume Number 2
Name Patrick Kelly
Event Type Marriage
Event Date Jul - Sep 1939
Event Place Dublin North, Ireland
Registration Quarter and Year Jul - Sep 1939
Registration District Dublin North
Volume Number 2
Or
Patrick Kelly
Ireland Civil Registration Indexes
Name Patrick Kelly
Event Type Marriage
Event Date Oct - Dec 1945
Event Place Dublin North, Ireland
Registration Quarter and Year Oct - Dec 1945
Registration District Dublin North
Volume Number 2
Josephine Hoey
Ireland Civil Registration Indexes
Name Josephine Hoey
Event Type Marriage
Event Date Oct - Dec 1945
Event Place Dublin North, Ireland
Registration Quarter and Year Oct - Dec 1945
Registration District Dublin North
Volume Number 2
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Is this her death
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1949/04541/4197603.pdf
address is difficult to read, something House
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That 1939 marriage
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1939/08864/5205672.pdf
Liberty House I think
http://www.buildingsofireland.ie/niah/search.jsp?type=record&county=DU®no=50011147
which wasn't built until 1936
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I think you have nailed it on those marriage and death entries Sinnan, the Liberty house connection would be correct, Im presuming that the Family may have been among the first to move into the complex from another address in the locality which may have been demolished/condemned around the same time.
Having her father's name from the Marriage cert is now a big help in piecing the family together, though the variation in the surname will probably throw up the usual problem's.
Hopefully I can find her Birth entry.
Thank you.
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Proceed with caution, you did say married circa 1946 and there is that 1945 marriage, although the age on the marriage would give you an 1918 birth and the addresses being the same would point to the 1939 marriage keep the other marriage in mind if things don't pan out.
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Certainly will Sinann, I intend purchasing the 1945 marriage cert just to be on the safe side, I know there was mention of a sister 'Bella', I notice on the 1939 cert that (found in the early hours) that one of the witness was Elizabeth Hoey, perhaps her sister 'Bella'.
The Father's name on cert was Patrick Hoey, I delved a bit further into the 1901 -1911 census for the area around the north inner city near Liberty House and came up with a 'possibility' of a Patrick Hoey wife Mary/Margaret nee Killeen.
Hopefully I can find a Josephine Hoey/Hoy born circa 1918-19 with mother 'Killeen'.
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That couple had a son Bernard in 1915
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1915/01361/1561158.pdf
And Patrick 1913
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1913/01453/1593672.pdf
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Hi Grizzly
good old Glasnevin index gives the following when entering Liberty into address box
Elizabeth widow 39c Liberty House died 1950
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1950/04531/4194255.pdf
Mary spinster age 28 also 1950
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1950/04531/4194278.pdf
possible marriage 1915 Patrick Hoey 1915 to Elizabeth Keane/Kane
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1915/09803/5558958.pdf
Daughter Isabella 1915 born at 43 Railway St
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1915/01379/1567376.pdf
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Patrick 1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/North_Dock/Gloucester_Place__Lower/14255/
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Johanna Hoey died 1941 31B Liberty House informant dtr Elizabeth Lyons
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1941/04711/4258369.pdf
Elizabeth married Patrick Lyons Feb 1911
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1911/09938/5613267.pdf
1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/North_Dock/Gloucester_Place__Lower/14320/
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Isabella age 17 and Philip McCluskey 1932
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1933/08974/5248179.pdf
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Joseph Hoy ? and Johanna Cahill 1886 Portarlington
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1886/10844/5959377.pdf
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There may be a family connection to Patrick Hoey and Joseph Hoey as they were both from Queens Co area,the Patrick im looking at hoping was Josephine's father was listed on 1911 census at 61 Summerhill, states he was born County Carlow, (I have his details)
Joseph was also born Queens Co.
The name Joseph runs through the family.
If I can get a birth entry for Isabella and her mother's maiden name was Killeen, then it should confirm im following correct family.
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Isabella Josephine d.o.b 12-6-1915.
Father Patrick Hoey..Mother Elizabeth Hoey nee Kane.
Address 43 Railway St.
Im thinking now that it is possible that the 'Elusive' Josephine is either a younger sister of Isabella or possibly Cousin.
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There is another Isabella Hoey born 1917 so you may want to look up her birth in the G R O
also just to be sure
Isabella McCluskey appears to have died 1950 at Corporation Buildings
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1950/04526/4192458.pdf
her husband Philip at 8C Liberty House 1944
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1944/04651/4236869.pdf
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Patrick Hoey died 1935 at 46 Railway St aged 47 born circa 1888
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1935/04830/4302141.pdf
1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/North_Dock/Mabbot_St_/1276115/
Elizabeth 1889 as Hoy
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1889/02463/1914747.pdf
Patrick 1887 also Hoy
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1887/02548/1942915.pdf
Mary Josephine 12th May 1895 at 65 Mabbott St
https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/display-pdf.jsp?pdfName=st.mary%27s-pro-cath_mf_1895-1900_ba_0053
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Looks very like 45-46 Railway St was home to the Hoey's from at least 1919-1935.
In July 1919 Ellen Teresa died aged 7 weeks at that address and later that November Patrick aged 1 died at 46 Railway St.
I was told that there were several siblings of 'Josephine' died that year.
The later address's at Liberty house would tie in with the family living at number 46 Railway st, its possible that the family moved there when the complex was opened circa 1936.
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Thank's for all the help, though havent found Josephine's birth records have been able to trace Family on both sides back to 1860s through her sister Isabella's record's.
Thanks again.
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Michael Henry Hoey age 3 Month's 1926
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1926/04991/4361389.pdf