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Title: Emigration and marriage record for Sarah Dunbar
Post by: Rosezi on Monday 07 May 18 09:59 BST (UK)
A DNA match has located a lost ancestor in the US. Her name is Sarah Dunbar born 1859 in Birkenhead, Cheshire. I am now trying to find her name on any emigration records and her sunsequent marriage to Daniel Melville born 1854 in Limerick, Ireland. They had 3 sons, John Joseph 1884, Charles  1886 and James Francis 1888. It looks like they probably wed about 1883/4 in New York, possibly in the Bronx area. Any help or info would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Emigration and marriage record for Sarah Dunbar
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 07 May 18 10:27 BST (UK)
Nothing so far on the marriage - Malville/Mulvihill -  http://www.italiangen.org/records-search/

1900 census Bronx New York

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MS24-5Q6

On the 1905 census there is another family of melville directly above - could be a brother of Daniel.  ??? Bronx, New York. Haven't followed Thomas thru the census but 1910 census says he arrived in 1881 - same as Daniel.

Thomas Melville   42 born Ireland 1863.
Kate Melville   39
Gertrude Melville 19
Joseph Melville   11
Robert Melville   8
Albert Melville   6
Marie Melville   4
Clarence Melville 2

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Sarah Melville   42
John Melville   21
Charles Melville   18
James Melville   17


1910 census shows she supposedly immigrated 1880

Sarah Melville   48 born Ireland. Widowed. Imm 1880. Had 3 chilcren and 3 survive.
Charles Melville   23 born NY.
Sarah Agnew   18 born England. single. sister. Imm 1908. Machine Hand. Silk Factory.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M5ZM-GQ7

1920 census    Bronx Assembly District 8, Bronx, New York

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MJPJ-611

1925 census New York, A.D. 08, E.D. 62, Bronx, New York,

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KS9Z-BPJ

1930 census Bronx (Districts 751-972), Bronx, New York - with son John - gives immigration 1874.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7DY-TVB

Possible 1940 census Manhattan State Hospital

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KQTG-SSV

FIND A GRAVE

Sarah (with photograph) 23 Dec 1859 - 11 February 1943

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/51904323/sarah-melville

Daniel Melville

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/52882296/daniel-melville

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/51904323/sarah-melville

Sandra
Title: Re: Emigration and marriage record for Sarah Dunbar
Post by: Milliepede on Monday 07 May 18 10:27 BST (UK)
The 1905 census says 25 years in the US and she is a widow. 

Title: Re: Emigration and marriage record for Sarah Dunbar
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 07 May 18 10:31 BST (UK)
New York Passenger List - Mrs Sarah Dunbar (scottish) - born 1857 - Glasgow - New York - Ship Name Bolivia. 1st June 1880  ??? Perhaps born 1855 not 1857 as transcription on anc. 

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939V-BQ9S-2?i=331&cc=1849782

Sandra
Title: Re: Emigration and marriage record for Sarah Dunbar
Post by: Rosinish on Monday 07 May 18 10:39 BST (UK)
A search on SP 1855 - 1859 with only 1 showing!

DUNBAR SARAH 1858
869/ 7 Kelton (Kikcudbright)

Annie
Title: Re: Emigration and marriage record for Sarah Dunbar
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 07 May 18 10:39 BST (UK)
Daniel's naturalization application says he arrived February 1881 - naturalized - 27 Oct 1893 NY


Sandra
Title: Re: Emigration and marriage record for Sarah Dunbar
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 07 May 18 10:43 BST (UK)
There is an ancestry tree says she was born in Hunslet but no supporting source.

From GRO

Dunbar  Sarah -  mmn Hawkhead
GRO Reference: 1859  D Quarter in Hunslet Volume 09B  Page 287

Sandra
Title: Re: Emigration and marriage record for Sarah Dunbar
Post by: Rosinish on Monday 07 May 18 10:57 BST (UK)
Hmm,

Born either Ireland/Scotland/England

This 1920 census gives them all as born New York

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MJPJ-611

Annie
Title: Re: Emigration and marriage record for Sarah Dunbar
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 07 May 18 11:03 BST (UK)
They all vary Annie - depends who gave the information   ???  1940 could have been Wales if Sarah was an inmate at Manhattan State Hospital. 

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KQTG-SSV

Sandra
Title: Re: Emigration and marriage record for Sarah Dunbar
Post by: Rosinish on Monday 07 May 18 11:12 BST (UK)
New York Passenger List - Mrs Sarah Dunbar (scottish) - born 1857

Mrs Sarah Dunbar

Makes things a bit tricky  ???

Annie
Title: Re: Emigration and marriage record for Sarah Dunbar
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 07 May 18 13:29 BST (UK)
Going back to the 1910 census Bronx Assembly District 32, New York, New York.

Sarah Melville   48 England. Head;. Widowed.
Charles Melville   23 New York. Son.
Sarah Agnew 18 England. Sister.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M5ZM-GQ4

Agnew Sarah Ann mmn Dunbar
GRO Reference: 1892  M Quarter in Birkenhead  Volume 08A  Page 500

Patrick Agnew married Mary Ann Dunbar - March 1873 - Birkenhead - 8a 640

Sandra
Title: Re: Emigration and marriage record for Sarah Dunbar
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 07 May 18 13:36 BST (UK)
1901 census Birkenhead Cheshire.

RG13 Piece 3389 Folio 128 Page 37

Patrick Agnew   50 Dock labourer.  Mary A Agnew   49
Charles Agnew   27 Dock Labourer.
Margaret Agnew   21 Laundress Washer.
Alexander Agnew 20 Dock Labourer.
Annie Agnew   12
Sarah Agnew   10
Thomas Agnew   7

Sandra

Title: Re: Emigration and marriage record for Sarah Dunbar
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 07 May 18 13:40 BST (UK)
1891 census Birkenhead, Cheshire.

RG12 Piece 2882 Folio 54 Page 49

Patrick Agnew   37
Mary Agnew   36 born Swansea South Wales.
John Agnew   18 Chas Agnew   16
Isabella Agnew   13 Joseph Agnew   15
Margt Agnew   12 Alex Agnew   10
Ann Agnew   1

Sandra
Title: Re: Emigration and marriage record for Sarah Dunbar
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 07 May 18 13:44 BST (UK)
1851 census 21 Neptune Street Birkenhead  Cheshire.

HO107 Piece 2175 Folio 532 Page 13

Charles Dunbar   27 born Ireland. Stone Mason.
Margaret Dunbar 26 born Ireland.
Catharine Dunbar 5 born Ireland.
Margaret Dunbar 3 born Ireland
Sarah Dunbar   1 born Birkenhead Cheshire.


In 1861 3 Byrom Street Birkenhead Cheshire - there is a family transcribed Duncan on ancestry believe this should be Dunbar - it would show Mary Ann Dunbar/Agnew with a Sarah Dunbar of the correct age.

RG 9 Piece 2642 Folio 23 Page 39

Chas Duncan   24 born Ireland. Stone-Mason.
Margt Duncan   35 born Ireland
Mary Duncan   13 born Ireland.
Roseann Duncan 8 born Lancashire Liverpool.
Mary Ann Duncan 6 born Wales.
Sarah Duncan   4 born Birkenhead. Cheshire.
Isab Duncan   2 born Birkenhead. Cheshire.
Joseph Duncan   3 months born Birkenhead. Cheshire.
Francis Harkness 45
Mary Harkness   40
Chas Weldon   36

Sandra
Title: Re: Emigration and marriage record for Sarah Dunbar
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 07 May 18 13:48 BST (UK)
The birth registration for Joseph and Sarah - perhaps one is a mistranscripiton or an error in surname of mother.  ???

Dunbar Joseph = mmn Weldon
GRO Reference: 1861  M Quarter in Wirral Volume 08A  Page 417

Dunbar Sarah Jane mmn Waldon
GRO Reference: 1857  M Quarter in Wirral  Volume 08A  Page 407

Sandra

Added - Isabella Dunbar comes under mothers maiden name Weldon - so Sarah Jane uner Waldon was an error.

Dunbar Isabella - mmn Weldon
GRO Reference: 1859  S Quarter in Wirral Volume 08A  Page 420


Title: Re: Emigration and marriage record for Sarah Dunbar
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 07 May 18 13:54 BST (UK)
Daughter Catherine Dunbar was baptised 8 January 1845  St Paul's, Dublin city, Dublin, Ireland.
Parents - Charles Dunbar - Mother Margaret Weldon.

Daughter Margaret Dunbar was baptised 5 Jul 1848 St Paul's, Dublin city, Dublin, Ireland.
Parents Charkles Dunbar - Mother Margaret Weldon.

Sandra
Title: Re: Emigration and marriage record for Sarah Dunbar
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 07 May 18 14:00 BST (UK)
1871 14 Byrom Street Birkenhead Cheshire - under Dunton on ancestry but it is Dunbar

RG10 Piece 3747 Folio 36  Page  66 

Margaret Dunton 48 Married. born Dublin Ireland.
Charlotte Welden 37 Sister. Servant. born Dublin Ireland.
Rose Dunden   19
Mary A Dunden   17
Sarah Dunden   13
Isabella Dunden   9
Joseph Dunbar   10
William Dunbar   7
Alexander Dunbar 5

Sandra
Title: Re: Emigration and marriage record for Sarah Dunbar
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 07 May 18 14:03 BST (UK)
1881 3 Byrom St Birkenhead Cheshire.

RG11 Piece 3578 Folio 71 Page 40

Charles Dunbar   59 born Ireland. Stone Mason.
Mary Dunbar   58
Joseph Dunbar   20 born Birkenhead. Dock Labourer.
Thomas Morgan   19 born Ireland. described as a son  ???

1891 census 11 Byrom Street Birkenhead Cheshire.

RG12 Piece 2882 Folio 53 Page 48

Alix Mitchell   33
Margt Mitchell   32
Alix Mitchell   5
Agnes Mitchell   3
Margt Dunbar   64 born Ireland. Boarder.

Sandra
Title: Re: Emigration and marriage record for Sarah Dunbar
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 07 May 18 14:10 BST (UK)
Charles Dunbar passed away in 1886 - aged 59 years - Birkenhead - 8a 314

Margaret Dunbar passed away in 1900 - aged 78 years - Birkenhead - 8a 393

Sandra
Title: Re: Emigration and marriage record for Sarah Dunbar
Post by: Rosinish on Monday 07 May 18 14:25 BST (UK)
Wow Sandra,

You've been busy, lots of info. there, well done.

Not sure what to make of Thomas Morgan as a son?

Annie
Title: Re: Emigration and marriage record for Sarah Dunbar
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 07 May 18 14:37 BST (UK)
Thomas Morgan description probably an error.  ::)

Sarah Agnew came back from the USA and married Geroge Bowe - 8a 1268
Possible - 10 children born to the couple 1914 - 1928

Sandra
Title: Re: Emigration and marriage record for Sarah Dunbar
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 07 May 18 14:40 BST (UK)
Sarah nee Agnew/Bowe - Daughter of Patrick Agnew - 1849 - December 1922 - Birkenhead - 8a 488

Mother Mary Ann nee Dunbar/Agnew - 1854 - December 1919 - Birkenhead - 8a 532

There is a UK Return Passenger List for a Sarah Agnew born 1891 - aged 20 years - domestic - Philadelphia, Pennsylvania to Liverpool on the Haverford - arriving 20 December 1911 -   

Sandra
Title: Re: Emigration and marriage record for Sarah Dunbar
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 07 May 18 14:50 BST (UK)
1851 census 21 Neptune Street Birkenhead  Cheshire.

HO107 Piece 2175 Folio 532 Page 13

Charles Dunbar   27 born Ireland. Stone Mason.
Margaret Dunbar 26 born Ireland.
Catharine Dunbar 5 born Ireland.
Margaret Dunbar 3 born Ireland
Sarah Dunbar   1 born Birkenhead Cheshire.


Sandra

Probably death for Sarah Dunbar - Wirral - 8a 266 - December 1854

Sandra
Title: Re: Emigration and marriage record for Sarah Dunbar
Post by: Rosezi on Sunday 25 October 20 11:26 GMT (UK)
Just having another look at all the replies. There was indeed an earlier Sarah that died. I have had many DNA matches in USA and Canada relating to Dunbars and Melvilles from New York and beyond.
Many thanks to all the contributions, great work!