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Title: freedom james b 1899
Post by: achooo on Saturday 12 May 18 16:54 BST (UK)
iv found freedom on 1901 cencus at branksom dorset aged 2. father william mother sarah {jemima] i beleive real name .i cant find her again .i found a freedom james  death 1928 swindon wilts 5a page 4 line 65.dont know if right one.can any one help with this please.we was told one girl was nick named baby james is this her.
Title: Re: freedom james b 1899
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 12 May 18 17:38 BST (UK)
Could this be her birth registration  :-\
Birth Sep qtr 1897 
Freedom James    mmn Collins   
Poole reg dist    5a   245
Title: Re: freedom james b 1899
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 12 May 18 17:44 BST (UK)
Possibly not.  There are 2 Freedom James bn Branksome in 1901.

Freedom age 3 parents Sansom & Kate - RG13/1978 f65 p34

Freedom age 2 parents William & Sarah - RG13/1978 f65 p33

They are living in the same area
Title: Re: freedom james b 1899
Post by: keyboard86 on Saturday 12 May 18 18:44 BST (UK)
Hi the Freedom James who died 1928 Swindon was aged 0, possibly born in Devizes Sept qtr 1927 mmn James
Keyboard86
Title: Re: freedom james b 1899
Post by: achooo on Saturday 12 May 18 20:21 BST (UK)
the freedom i want  parents william sarah/jemima  born 1898/9. no one knows what became of her.thank you for info on death swindon .i beleive the two freedoms related but freedom b 1898/9 disapeared lol
Title: Re: freedom james b 1899
Post by: crisane on Saturday 12 May 18 21:20 BST (UK)
There is a death of a Freedom James June 1/4 1968 registration district Marlboro vol 7c page 714
Age at death is 71 so born c1897 which is a couple of years out but a possible contender.
Title: Re: freedom james b 1899
Post by: osprey on Saturday 12 May 18 22:05 BST (UK)
the Freedom who died 1968 may be Freedom Cooper whose birth was registered jun qtr 1896 Fordingbridge and married Mark James dec qtr 1915 Alton.

There's a Freedom James who married William G Jackson sep qtr 1919 West Bromwich, death reg
Freedom Jackson 26 june qtr 1925 Poole vol 5a pg 249 although that could be the other Freedom born to Sansom & Kate.

Is this the same family in 1891 with a different Freedom or is 1901 an error?
Tent, Newtown, Kinson RG12/1637 folio 71 pg 15
William James head mar 34 hawker b. Kinson
Jemima wife 36 hawker b. Kinson
Priscilla dau 13 b. Kinson
William son 11 b. Kinson
Thomas son 9 b. Hants, Shirley
Sansom son 7 b. Devon,Exeter
Liberty son 5 b. Somerset, Taunton
Freedom dau 2 b. Kinson
Mary Ann dau 1 mo b. Kinson

 :-\
Title: Re: freedom james b 1899
Post by: achooo on Saturday 12 May 18 23:07 BST (UK)
yes osprey thats same family  1891.that freedom cooper death 1968 different freedom .
Title: Re: freedom james b 1899
Post by: osprey on Sunday 13 May 18 10:23 BST (UK)
in that case, if it's the same family, what happened to the Freedom aged 2 in 1891? Is the Freedom on the 1901 census meant to be 12? Or did they have a second Freedom?
Title: Re: freedom james b 1899
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 13 May 18 11:14 BST (UK)

There's a Freedom James who married William G Jackson sep qtr 1919 West Bromwich, death reg
Freedom Jackson 26 june qtr 1925 Poole vol 5a pg 249 although that could be the other Freedom born to Sansom & Kate.


Newspaper report on the suicide of Samson James in the Western Gazette 28 October 1921 mentions his daughter Freedom Jackson
Title: Re: freedom james b 1899
Post by: achooo on Sunday 13 May 18 12:43 BST (UK)
iv got freedom james born 1899 branksome  f william m sarah who is realy jemima.
in 1901 census freedom is 2 years old
Title: Re: freedom james b 1899
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 13 May 18 13:12 BST (UK)
iv got freedom james born 1899 branksome  f william m sarah who is realy jemima.
in 1901 census freedom is 2 years old

I was just eliminating the Freedom James that married William Jackson.  At least we now know that if we find a Freedom James bn c1898 Poole it is yours and not the daughter of Sansom who died 1925 as Freedom Jackson
Title: Re: freedom james b 1899
Post by: TracyRosina on Saturday 26 May 18 19:45 BST (UK)
the Freedom who died 1968 may be Freedom Cooper whose birth was registered jun qtr 1896 Fordingbridge and married Mark James dec qtr 1915 Alton.

There's a Freedom James who married William G Jackson sep qtr 1919 West Bromwich, death reg
Freedom Jackson 26 june qtr 1925 Poole vol 5a pg 249 although that could be the other Freedom born to Sansom & Kate.

Is this the same family in 1891 with a different Freedom or is 1901 an error?
Tent, Newtown, Kinson RG12/1637 folio 71 pg 15
William James head mar 34 hawker b. Kinson
Jemima wife 36 hawker b. Kinson
Priscilla dau 13 b. Kinson
William son 11 b. Kinson
Thomas son 9 b. Hants, Shirley
Sansom son 7 b. Devon,Exeter
Liberty son 5 b. Somerset, Taunton
Freedom dau 2 b. Kinson
Mary Ann dau 1 mo b. Kinson

 :-\
iv got freedom james born 1899 branksome  f william m sarah who is realy jemima.
iv got freedom james born 1899 branksome  f william m sarah who is realy jemima.
in 1901 census freedom is 2 years old

I was just eliminating the Freedom James that married William Jackson.  At least we now know that if we find a Freedom James bn c1898 Poole it is yours and not the daughter of Sansom who died 1925 as Freedom Jackson
Could this be her birth registration  :-\
Birth Sep qtr 1897 
Freedom James    mmn Collins   
Poole reg dist    5a   245
in 1901 census freedom is 2 years old

I was just eliminating the Freedom James that married William Jackson.  At least we now know that if we find a Freedom James bn c1898 Poole it is yours and not the daughter of Sansom who died 1925 as Freedom Jackson
Title: Re: freedom james b 1899
Post by: achooo on Saturday 26 May 18 22:25 BST (UK)
thats right one mother jemima father william thank you
Title: Re: freedom james b 1899
Post by: jmwj on Saturday 14 July 18 09:42 BST (UK)
Hello

Freedom James that died in 1968 in Marlborough was my Great Grandmother she was Freedom Cooper and was married to Mark James which was already noted above.

Mark James is brother to the Freedom James you are looking for. As you discovered there are a couple of families based in Poole with children with similar names which has caused me confusion over the years.

William and Jemima were being investigated by the NSPCC when based in Devon, their children were seemingly heathly but possibly neglected and left to their own devices whilst they went drinking  - I have discovered this in newspaper reports. I have wondered if this is why Jemima became Sarah in 1901 census. There was also a family feud between William and Jemima James and Sansom and Kate James that I have seen reported in the newspapers.

Sadly, I can't help with your initial enquiry. I hope you can find out what happened to Freedom.

Best wishes
Jackie
Title: Re: freedom james b 1899
Post by: jmwj on Saturday 14 July 18 09:46 BST (UK)
I've just looked at my info and I have a death for a Freedom Cole quarter of June 1968 in Winchester against your Freedom - I don't have a marriage or anything else but I will look later - just need to pop out for the morning.

Hope this helps.

Jackie
Title: Re: freedom james b 1899
Post by: achooo on Saturday 14 July 18 10:07 BST (UK)
thankyou for your help
Title: Re:jemima james
Post by: achooo on Sunday 04 July 21 08:32 BST (UK)
iv found a jemima james died  jul/aug/sept 1935 new forest aged 78.where would she be burried please