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Title: Strange coincidences in family history
Post by: carom on Tuesday 15 May 18 12:13 BST (UK)
When visiting my husband's family in Plymouth, we used to go walking in the South Hams and often ended up at  the Church House Inn in Stokenham, simply because it was a nice traditional pub. We carried on going there for many years, several times taking his parents.
My husband knew nothing of his family tree, but one winter I decided to look into it.
Much to my surprise I found that several generations of his father's family were ag. labs who lived around Stokenham, and some of them were actually buried in the churchyard across the road from the pub!
Anyone else had an odd coincidence like this?
Title: Re: Strange coincidences in family history
Post by: groom on Tuesday 15 May 18 12:27 BST (UK)
When I decided to train as a teacher, I applied to, and was accepted at, the college just outside  Grantham in Lincolnshire. I'd never been to Lincolnshire, I just liked the look of the place and the course offered.

Fast forward 40 or so years to when I became interested in Family History, and to my surprise I found that my great x 3 grandfather had been born in Grantham in 1798, although he'd later moved to London, and that his parents and a lot of his siblings were buried in St Wulfram's churchyard in Grantham. I'd walked through that churchyard everyday to catch the coach to the college!

I'd always felt very at home in Grantham - now I know why, my roots were there!
Title: Re: Strange coincidences in family history
Post by: philipsearching on Tuesday 15 May 18 14:21 BST (UK)
One branch of my family lived in Southwark for many years - nothing surprising in that.  But tracking back I found two sets of their ancestors from Towcester, one couple from Fakenham, one couple from Ascot and another couple from Epsom.  As far as I know, none of my family have ever had any interest in horse racing.
Title: Re: Strange coincidences in family history
Post by: Gibel on Tuesday 15 May 18 17:48 BST (UK)
In 1969 I came to teacher training college in Ormskirk. Although my grandmother lived near I thought my paternal family came from Cheshire. I was very unhappy at college as I'd had a very sheltered Upbringing and was like a fish out of water. One day I went for a walk wishing I could go back in time, just passed a place name sign for Bickerstaffe I gave myself a shake and told myself to get on with it.

30 years I began researching my paternal family tree and sometime later when I got back to the early 18 th century I discover my paternal family originated from Bickerstaffe!
Title: Re: Strange coincidences in family history
Post by: iluleah on Tuesday 15 May 18 19:11 BST (UK)
So many times!
As a child my horse was stabled at a riding school it had acres and acres of fields/land surrounding it and I spent hours riding my horse with dog following on feeling very 'at home' it was years later when I researched I found out that land was part of an estate where some of my ancestors had live/worked throughout their lives... it is now all built up a shopping centre and thousands of homes.

As a teenager I belonged to the young farmers and we went on several trips one trip to a lovely village in Rutland, a chocolate box village called Exton I took photos of several village homes, sat on the village green, visited Avenue Farm and the folly at Horne then onto another village nearby Greetham to see some stone mason working and an example of what is now called "Halliday's Folly" which is now a holiday cottage.... when I began driving I would often visit both these villages, stop and have lunch or a walk there always seemed to something that kept me going back...later I found Exton was home to my ancestors for at least 500 yrs and the selection of photos I took all turned out to be where my ancestors lived and Avenue farm was a 'family farm' and Horne was where my great grandfather was born, Halliday's Folly in Greetham was built by Thomas Charity Halliday, a stonemason and corn merchant, also an ancestor of mine.

At a week long dog show which started in Malvern we needed to find a larger venue for future years, so  lots of travelling, lots of looking for a good show ground and ended up finding Suffolk and it instantly felt great. Part of the program offered for competitors is what is on, where to go, what to see on 'days off' so, off to investigate, get details so all these things are known and programs written up before the event, several small places I 'got that at home feeling' and later found out I had ancestors from all those places.

Now what a shame I don't get that at home feeling and feel the need to investigate the Cayman Islands, or Bahamas ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Strange coincidences in family history
Post by: bevj on Tuesday 15 May 18 21:10 BST (UK)
It's much further back, but I found that a family on my Dad's side and a family on my Mum's side emigrated to Australia on the same ship (the Herefordshire) in 1853.
I wonder if their paths ever crossed!

Bev
Title: Re: Strange coincidences in family history
Post by: coombs on Tuesday 15 May 18 21:31 BST (UK)
My nan's grandfather James Edgington lived in Oxford in 1861. A few streets away, in 1861, my grandfather's great grandmother Sarah Brain was in service down Oxford High Street in Oxford. Sarah moved to Essex in about 1866. James Edgington's daughter moved to Essex in about 1913. Nan and grandad met and married in Essex.
Title: Re: Strange coincidences in family history
Post by: Finley 1 on Tuesday 15 May 18 22:09 BST (UK)
I cannot believe the co-incidences.. I find..

too many to name
but spooky all the same.


Xin
Title: Re: Strange coincidences in family history
Post by: Rosinish on Wednesday 16 May 18 01:08 BST (UK)
One with a difference!

A friend I helped with his family tree, his father was in the Navy which brought my friend to Hemsworth School, (Yorkshire)? for a while prior to returning to Scotland.

Anyway, further back his tree we found a (not sure how many greats) grandmother with surname Hemsworth born & lived here in Scotland where he's from.

I thought that to be a 'strange' coincidence, quite unbelievable & different as the surname is unusual.

Annie
Title: Re: Strange coincidences in family history
Post by: Ruskie on Wednesday 16 May 18 06:37 BST (UK)
Um, no, sadly I don't have any that come to mind ....  ;)
Title: Re: Strange coincidences in family history
Post by: mckha489 on Wednesday 16 May 18 08:03 BST (UK)
I was born in England. My husband is a 4th Generation New Zealander with predominantly Scots ancestry.
Except that one of  His 4x Great Grandmothers came from a small village in Staffordshire where MY ancestors owned the castle some centuries earlier
AND his mother was a WW2 war bride from Liverpool. Her father was a Scot, but her mother's father came from a village within walking distance of the same village.
My daughter was heard to mutter 'Why did anyone bother emigrating? the results are the same!"
We haven't been to visit it yet. But it is on the list!
Title: Re: Strange coincidences in family history
Post by: Mart 'n' Al on Wednesday 16 May 18 08:19 BST (UK)
Um, no, sadly I don't have any that come to mind ....  ;)

Ruskie, I bet there are other people in your family who also have no knowledge of coincidences in your family.

Martin
Title: Re: Strange coincidences in family history
Post by: Ruskie on Wednesday 16 May 18 12:10 BST (UK)
Um, no, sadly I don't have any that come to mind ....  ;)

Ruskie, I bet there are other people in your family who also have no knowledge of coincidences in your family.

Martin

You are probably right Martin.  :)
Title: Re: Strange coincidences in family history
Post by: Finley 1 on Wednesday 16 May 18 12:43 BST (UK)
 ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

hysterical


thank you for making me smile xxx


xin
Title: Re: Strange coincidences in family history
Post by: snowqueen on Wednesday 23 May 18 18:50 BST (UK)
When my maternal grandmother died back in 2000 mum found a handwritten note among her belongings listing the birth dates of her father and all her paternal aunts and uncles.  This began my interest (obsession) with family history.  I happily waded my way through census records and parish records and took the family back to the 1700's.

A couple of years later mum's paternal cousin mentioned he'd inherited a family bible from his mother.  She made him get it out of his attic and I went to have a look.  Laid out on the pages were 5 generations of my grandfather's family with dates of all births, marriages and deaths but what was at the top of the tree shocked me and I had to double check the records.  It turned out that my grandfather's 4 x grandfather was also my grandmother's 3xgrandfather, something they would never have known.

Lyn

Title: Re: Strange coincidences in family history
Post by: Clarkey500 on Wednesday 23 May 18 20:19 BST (UK)
When I was gaining experience in schools, before applying to university for a BEd in primary mathematics, I spent some time in year 2 (6-7 year olds).

On the first day of being in a class a boy asked me if we were related. I had never seen this child before, didn't recognise his surname from being in my family tree and I didn't recognise his mum at the end of the day. However, he was adamant and would ask me most of the days I was in his class. Fast forward to the last few days I was in his class he decided to tell me more about his family - including a name I vaguely recognised (albeit a fairly common one).

It turns out he was my third cousin and seemed to have some kind of sixth sense!  :o

Also, as a child I loved visiting the Blackdown and Quantock Hills. I later found out, from research, that my ancestors came from there!
Title: Re: Strange coincidences in family history
Post by: Finley 1 on Wednesday 23 May 18 22:35 BST (UK)
However, he was adamant and would ask me most of the days I was in his class. Fast forward to the last few days I was in his class he decided to tell me more about his family - including a name I vaguely recognised (albeit a fairly common one).

It turns out he was my third cousin and seemed to have some kind of sixth sense!  :o

!




I think he was one of your 'dead rellies'  re visiting in his new life and recognised you.

or something
 ??? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

xin
Title: Re: Strange coincidences in family history
Post by: Ayashi on Thursday 24 May 18 01:05 BST (UK)
I live across the country from all of my ancestry. I started communicating with a couple who had created a sprawling one name study of one of my surnames in Cornwall- these relatives of mine were born and raised in Cornwall, but it turned out that they got married in the church next to my house in Bedfordshire!

Another time someone contacted me wondering if I was related to his granddaughter via the above surname in Cornwall. By coincidence, he lived near the tiny village one branch of my ancestors came from in Carmarthenshire, Wales, and his mother used to live one town along from me in Bedfordshire again!

Most recently, I found out that a relative who is something along the lines of 7th cousins or thereabouts was born in the same month, same year, same hospital as my mother, 2.5k miles away!

Ayashi
Title: Re: Strange coincidences in family history
Post by: Jang on Thursday 24 May 18 08:00 BST (UK)
My family history coincidence is going to cause problems for future researchers - two brothers married women of the same name - my sister-in-law and me - but we're completely unrelated. We have the same first name and surname but our middle names are different. I wonder how many of them will assume it's a case of two brothers marrying the same person?  :)
Title: Re: Strange coincidences in family history
Post by: groom on Thursday 24 May 18 08:31 BST (UK)
My family history coincidence is going to cause problems for future researchers - two brothers married women of the same name - my sister-in-law and me - but we're completely unrelated. We have the same first name and surname but our middle names are different. I wonder how many of them will assume it's a case of two brothers marrying the same person?  :)

 ;D You are going to be labelled as a bigamist in a lot of trees.
Title: Re: Strange coincidences in family history
Post by: Mowsehowse on Thursday 24 May 18 08:32 BST (UK)
My family history coincidence is going to cause problems for future researchers - two brothers married women of the same name - my sister-in-law and me - but we're completely unrelated. We have the same first name and surname but our middle names are different. I wonder how many of them will assume it's a case of two brothers marrying the same person?  :)

My husband has that in his tree, and one of the sisters died fairly young.... it DID take me years to unravel, though much easier now that so much is on-line.
Title: Re: Strange coincidences in family history
Post by: Jang on Thursday 24 May 18 08:51 BST (UK)
;D You are going to be labelled as a bigamist in a lot of trees.

So true  ;D
Title: Re: Strange coincidences in family history
Post by: Finley 1 on Thursday 24 May 18 10:10 BST (UK)
Is there NO WAY - you can get this documented in LARGE PRINT --- so they find the truth, or are you just going to let them find out the hard way --- ha ha ha.. the struggles we have with this game..

sometimes I could pull my hair out, with the co-incidences

Everyday there is either a mix up or an untruth ...

Yesterday - (still working on the benefactors of the Will I discovered)

The grandaughter - that was bequeathed some cash was interesting :_

quick run down.

'to my 3 grandchildren etc'.....  one being Elizabeth.  These are the children of his son from his first marriage.

However previously in the will he gave money to the Grandchildren of his late wife..

At the moment!!!
I am of the conclusion that Elizabeth his grandaughter ! had married twice, and one of her husbands was one of the grandchildren of Robert's  first wife.   (this as yet is NOT verified)

So this Elizabeth, is my line ?  or is she Roberts line, that joins my line and then leaves to marry 2nd husband. but is really my line all along..

Now I wonder why my head is off all the time.. sorting this kind of problem.. is crazy.


What I did realise ------
(s / NOT z in realise thank you)
[/glow] 

its no wonder there are so many crazy mixed up trees on Ancestry.. Cos I really need to go so slowly through this will - over and over to ensure, I have the correct Grandchildren of his wife.. Who he didnt have any children with..

screaming abdabs....

xin

 ::) ::) :o 8) :o 8)
Title: Re: Strange coincidences in family history
Post by: J.R.Ellam on Tuesday 05 June 18 07:34 BST (UK)
Hi

Like everyone I have a few coincidences.
I have 5 generations working for the Huddersfield Council.
My grandmother and grandfathers lived at opposite ends of the town but their grandparents live round the corner from each other.
As a lad I had a Saturday job and then I became an apprentice and I have found that I am related to the owners of both company's I worked for.

John
Title: Re: Strange coincidences in family history
Post by: JAKnighton on Tuesday 05 June 18 08:43 BST (UK)
A few years ago I moved to a village on the outskirts of the city I grew up in, and started looking into my family history shortly after. I quickly discovered that my new home was precisely where my ancestors came from.

Looking further into it, I realised that my 5x great grandfather was the parish clerk (of the church at the end of my street) and it was his records that I was looking at all this time.
Title: Re: Strange coincidences in family history
Post by: a-l on Wednesday 06 June 18 15:04 BST (UK)
I have found coincidences in my families, so much so that I'm convinced the ancestors are  pointing us in their directions.
Now will all the others step forward please  ;D
Title: Re: Strange coincidences in family history
Post by: Clarkey500 on Sunday 10 June 18 16:49 BST (UK)
However, he was adamant and would ask me most of the days I was in his class. Fast forward to the last few days I was in his class he decided to tell me more about his family - including a name I vaguely recognised (albeit a fairly common one).

It turns out he was my third cousin and seemed to have some kind of sixth sense!  :o

!




I think he was one of your 'dead rellies'  re visiting in his new life and recognised you.

or something
 ??? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

xin

Probably, even from the first day!  ;D
Title: Re: Strange coincidences in family history
Post by: jaybelnz on Sunday 10 June 18 23:47 BST (UK)
My coincidence stems from the initial search I did on a Rootsweb Message board when I first started my research, back in about 2002.  I nearly fell off my chair when a message came up from someone seeking information about his English great grandparents, Henry Maxwell David Mathews and Jane Dunnell, who just happened to also be my great-grandparents, and his grandfather and my grandfather were brothers.

This cousin, and his daughter, had already been researching the family for a good few years, and I was a very raw newbie.  I replied to his message with my connection, and after that we kept in contact via email, sharing our info, certs, and stories.  I stayed with them when I went to UK - and we went over it all again.  Although this relative sadly passed away last year, I am still in contact with his wife and daughter!    A great coincidence?  Or was it guidance from above??  Devine intervention perhaps??  I won't know until I get upstairs to ask them!! 😄😄🙏
Title: Re: Strange coincidences in family history
Post by: Rena on Monday 11 June 18 01:12 BST (UK)
When I was gaining experience in schools, before applying to university for a BEd in primary mathematics, I spent some time in year 2 (6-7 year olds).

On the first day of being in a class a boy asked me if we were related. I had never seen this child before, didn't recognise his surname from being in my family tree and I didn't recognise his mum at the end of the day. However, he was adamant and would ask me most of the days I was in his class. Fast forward to the last few days I was in his class he decided to tell me more about his family - including a name I vaguely recognised (albeit a fairly common one).

It turns out he was my third cousin and seemed to have some kind of sixth sense!  :o

Something like that happened to a couple of people I worked with.  "D" came to work with us when he left college.  He lived with his father and was a bit of a loner but he took a shine to a middle aged chap, "T", at work and eventually started to regularly visit "T" and his family at their home.   

One day a middle aged smartly dressed woman arrived wanting to buy a product.  "D" went to serve her and looked startled when she addressed him by his name, whereupon she recounted the times she met him when he was small and how she was related to him through his mother.  Whilst "D" was digesting that information, in walked "T" and he too was was recognised by the woman and he in turn knew her because they were related through the same grandparents.  They exchanged catch up news about the family and the woman went on her way.  "D's" face showed he was bemused when he asked if he'd got it right that he and "T" were related".  "Yes we are - I thought you knew", said "T".

Was it sixth sense that drew young "D" to "T", or was it the work of a higher spirit? oo-er
Title: Re: Strange coincidences in family history
Post by: Clarkey500 on Monday 11 June 18 03:30 BST (UK)
When I was gaining experience in schools, before applying to university for a BEd in primary mathematics, I spent some time in year 2 (6-7 year olds).

On the first day of being in a class a boy asked me if we were related. I had never seen this child before, didn't recognise his surname from being in my family tree and I didn't recognise his mum at the end of the day. However, he was adamant and would ask me most of the days I was in his class. Fast forward to the last few days I was in his class he decided to tell me more about his family - including a name I vaguely recognised (albeit a fairly common one).

It turns out he was my third cousin and seemed to have some kind of sixth sense!  :o

Something like that happened to a couple of people I worked with.  "D" came to work with us when he left college.  He lived with his father and was a bit of a loner but he took a shine to a middle aged chap, "T", at work and eventually started to regularly visit "T" and his family at their home.   

One day a middle aged smartly dressed woman arrived wanting to buy a product.  "D" went to serve her and looked startled when she addressed him by his name, whereupon she recounted the times she met him when he was small and how she was related to him through his mother.  Whilst "D" was digesting that information, in walked "T" and he too was was recognised by the woman and he in turn knew her because they were related through the same grandparents.  They exchanged catch up news about the family and the woman went on her way.  "D's" face showed he was bemused when he asked if he'd got it right that he and "T" were related".  "Yes we are - I thought you knew", said "T".

Was it sixth sense that drew young "D" to "T", or was it the work of a higher spirit? oo-er

Wow, glad I'm not alone! Sixth sense or higher spirit, why not both!? ;D ;D
Title: Re: Strange coincidences in family history
Post by: Wendy2305 on Monday 11 June 18 08:01 BST (UK)
My coincidence is my paternal grandmother was raised by an unrelated family and this family were known as Gran and grandad to my dad and siblings It turns out Grandad was the nephew of my maternal 3x gr grandmother
Title: Re: Strange coincidences in family history
Post by: DavidG02 on Sunday 23 September 18 13:37 BST (UK)
In the 1970s we moved from one suburb to another and we didnt get on with our back fence neighbour. Could have something to do with the 2 dogs not liking each other and barking and yapping all day and night

Eventually one of the lads started coming over to play cricket and football in the back yard. Became best mates. 20 years pass and both parents and families have moved out and onwards.

40 years later doing the family tree and doing the twiglets I came across my grandfathers brother marrying a woman the same (very unusual and rare surname) as my mate. Having a chat he says hang on and checks his family tree he has been given

Confirmed

His grandfathers sister married my grandfathers brother in the late 1920s ( they divorced in the late 1930s - no issue) so not unusual his parents had no idea but just an amazing coincidence to me
Title: Re: Strange coincidences in family history
Post by: cristeen on Sunday 23 September 18 18:33 BST (UK)
When young we used to have holidays with my paternal grandparents who would take us to visit all sorts of interesting places, some of these places were connected with their ancestors, of whom they were very proud.
One favourite visit was to Sambos grave at Sunderland Point, a tiny village and the only place in mainland England which is isolated by the tide. Sambo was a slave who died, apparently pining for his master, a ships captain. My paternal Gran knew that my maternal family had links to Sunderland Point. I later discovered that Sambo died in the cottage my maternal side first occupied when they moved there in the 1880s.
Title: Re: Strange coincidences in family history
Post by: Isabel H on Tuesday 25 September 18 10:01 BST (UK)
A relative divorced and re-married to a woman with the same first name as his ex.  Some years later, his son did exactly the same.

I generally do the crossword but only glance at the rest of our daily paper, having seen much of the day's news on TV or online.  One day recently I picked up the paper intending to read it properly for once, and found myself wondering what had made me do that on that particular day.  It fell open at a full page obituary of a second cousin.
Title: Re: Strange coincidences in family history
Post by: Keitht on Tuesday 25 September 18 12:25 BST (UK)
When I was a child we lived in a quiet side road where many families had children of similar ages. Almost right opposite us lived a family with whose children I was friendly and we played together a lot. That was over 50 years ago and I had forgotten about them until the 1939 Register became available. Suddenly a name I recognised popped up on my tree with 1939 as a "hint". I checked it out to find that I was looking at my childhood friends' mother, who was a 4th cousin. I'm certain that neither she nor my parents were aware of the connection.
Title: Re: Strange coincidences in family history
Post by: Jang on Tuesday 25 September 18 13:11 BST (UK)
A strange coincidence happened to me a few years ago. I'd been corresponding with my mother's cousin in England who told me he'd seen a recent episode of the "Antiques Roadshow" which featured a man with some "Railplane" George Bennie memorabilia belonging to his mother, and related to us both. Unfortunately he didn't catch the man's name.

Imagine my surprise a few weeks later when I was watching the "Antiques Roadshow" here in Australia - it was the same episode. I emailed the Roadshow people and they put me in touch with him.