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Title: Henry Pascoe/Amelia Steer
Post by: L44 on Tuesday 15 May 18 22:20 BST (UK)
Henry Pascoe and Amelia née Steer arrived in South Australia in 1853 aboard the Magdalena. And 2 children. Henry and Mary Elizabeth.
I’m trying to find when and where they died and information about their children.
Title: Re: Henry Pascoe/Amelia Steer
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 15 May 18 22:31 BST (UK)
Married 1849 in England

Marriages June qtr 1849   
Pascoe    Henry   Penzance 9   242      
Steer    Amelia

Son Henry born June qtr 1851 and daughter Mary Elizabeth June qtr 1853 - both in Penzance    
Title: Re: Henry Pascoe/Amelia Steer
Post by: Jamjar on Wednesday 16 May 18 00:01 BST (UK)
SA births:

1859   PASCOE William Henry PASCOE and Amelia STEER Gilbert 17/102

1865   PASCOE Richard John Henry PASCOE and Amelia STEER Adelaide 33/338

And middle names for Henry and Amelia?

What were their parents’ names?

You should have your thread moved to the Australia board.

Jamjar
Title: Re: Henry Pascoe/Amelia Steer
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 16 May 18 00:10 BST (UK)
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You should have your thread moved to the Australia board.

Have already asked moderator to move post
Title: Re: Henry Pascoe/Amelia Steer
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 16 May 18 00:17 BST (UK)
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What were their parents’ names?

Amelia was born 1828/29 St Just Cornwall - 1841 census shows parents as James & Elizabeth

Henry was b 1822/23 Sithney Cornwall - parents John & Margaret
Title: Re: Henry Pascoe/Amelia Steer
Post by: wivenhoe on Wednesday 16 May 18 05:19 BST (UK)
http://www.bdm.dotag.wa.gov.au/_apps/pioneersindex/default.aspx

BDM WA death
1900 / 475 PASCOE  Francis   44y    birthplace Watervale SA
parents Henry  / STEER Amelia 

1900 / 347 PASCOE  Amelia   70y     birthplace Cornwall ENG
parents William  / Unknown Amelia

1908 / 461 PASCOE  Henry  Male      Perth  461  1908   

The Evening Star 21 Jun 1900 p3
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/202836078?
...death of Francis PASCOE.....cousin Thomas LANGSFORD, blacksmith, Brown Hill Mine........
Title: Re: Henry Pascoe/Amelia Steer
Post by: wivenhoe on Wednesday 16 May 18 05:59 BST (UK)
https://www.genealogysa.org.au/resources/online-databases.html

BDM SA births
1859 LANGSFORD John
parents Thomas LANGSFORD /  Elizabeth PASCOE  Burra  17/235 

1863 LANGSFORD Charles
parents Thomas LANGSFORD / Elizabeth PASCOE  Adelaide  27/330 

BDM SA deaths
1896 232/280  LANGSFORD  Elizabeth
relative name  Thomas LANGSFORD (DH)  Frome 

Title: Re: Henry Pascoe/Amelia Steer
Post by: Jamjar on Wednesday 16 May 18 11:13 BST (UK)
I don’t think the WA folk are the correct ones. Amelia was formerly of Broken Hill, NSW and that is where husband Henry died. His father is listed as Francis:

4196/1897 PASCOE HENRY father FRANCIS UNKNOWN BROKEN HILL

The above Amelia is said to be the mother of only a Henry and James in her death notice. So, if her there would need to be deaths of the other children mentioned earlier and a birth for James.

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article44250801

Jamjar

Jamjar
Title: Re: Henry Pascoe/Amelia Steer
Post by: Essie on Saturday 19 May 18 09:15 BST (UK)
Henry PASCOE who died in 1897 and Richard J PASCOE who died in 1888 are buried in the same grave at BROKEN HILL.

PASCOE  Henry   bur.  16 Jun 1897
Plot METH M4  1  22 

Richard John PASCOE b. 15 Jun 1865 Moonta to Henry and Amelia nee STEER
Reg. Ade  33/338
PASCOE  Richard J  Age 23yr died BROKEN HILL
NSW reg #13998/1888
Burial 9 Nov 1888
Plot METH M4  1  22 


It seems not all PASCOE children had their births registered in SA though Francis was born c1856 at Watervale where William was born.


The Henry PASCOE who died 15 Jul 1908 was recorded as aged 58 on the MCB burial record.
Maybe the son Henry??


Essie
Title: Re: Henry Pascoe/Amelia Steer
Post by: L44 on Saturday 19 May 18 14:54 BST (UK)
Thankyou everyone for your help.
I didn’t know about Francis Pascoe.
I found a James Henry,but cannot find birth records
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/182692676/james-pascoe
Do you think the Elizabeth Pascoe who married a Thomas Langsford is the correct Mary Elizabeth born 1853. It would explain a cousin in the Trove article of Francis Pascoe.
I did find a Mary Elizabeth Pascoe who married a Benjamin Phillips in 1872 SA
If the Henry Pascoe who died in 1908 is the Henry Pascoe born 1851,that would explain why Amelia would be in WA
Title: Re: Henry Pascoe/Amelia Steer
Post by: Essie on Saturday 19 May 18 15:11 BST (UK)
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What were their parents’ names?

Amelia was born 1828/29 St Just Cornwall - 1841 census shows parents as James & Elizabeth

Henry was b 1822/23 Sithney Cornwall - parents John & Margaret

The Cornwall marriage record had the father of Henry named as Francis.
http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/more-info/?t=marriages&id=562864
Henry's baptism record in 1822 named his parents as Francis and Mary.

Daughter Mary Elizabeth did marry Benjamin PHILLIPS.  Five children were born between 1872 and 1884 at Moonta Mines and one daughter was named Amelia Steer!  The PHILLIPS family also moved to Broken Hill where Mary died in 1921.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/45565313


Essie
Title: Re: Henry Pascoe/Amelia Steer
Post by: L44 on Saturday 19 May 18 16:07 BST (UK)
Thank you.
So is the Amelia that died in WA the correct Amelia Pascoe née Steer.
I now have the chn as
Henry born 1851 Cornwall ( married Harriet Watson 1873 ,maybe died 1908 WA)
Mary Elizabeth born 1853 Cornwall ( married Benjamin Phillips 1872,died NSW 1921, 5 children)
William born 1859 ( no further info)
Richard John born 1865 SA ( married !! ,died NSW 1888)
James (according  to findagrave info- born 1853!! , married Margaret Hannah Trezise , died NSW 1909, 6 children)
Francis ( died age 44 in WA 1900 making him born 1855/56
Title: Re: Henry Pascoe/Amelia Steer
Post by: Aussie1947 on Sunday 20 May 18 01:41 BST (UK)
Hi,

The South Australian Police Gazette Jan 18th 1882 on page 12 has reference to a watch being stolen from William Henry PASCOE of Government Gums.

Gerry
Title: Re: Henry Pascoe/Amelia Steer
Post by: Essie on Sunday 20 May 18 02:00 BST (UK)
Amelia's death in WA was placed in the Broken Hill newspaper and mentioned only the two sons living in Broken Hill at that time. 
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/44250801

Son Francis died in WA later the same year as his mother.

The LANGSFORD and PASCO(E) marriage was at Liskeard in 1850. Elizabeth nee Pascoe died aged 72 in 1896 at Hawker SA.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/34535437
Baptism records have Elizabeth born c1824 to Francis and Mary who lived at Churchtown in Sithney parish and obviously a sister to Henry.
http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/baptisms/


Essie
Title: Re: Henry Pascoe/Amelia Steer
Post by: Essie on Sunday 20 May 18 03:53 BST (UK)
A William John PASCOE died 14 May 1890 in a mining fatality at Broken Hill. The inquest report and funeral directors named him incorrectly.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/44050419
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/44050353

NSW death index names him as William J - no parents named.
W J PASCOE was a member of the Broken Hill AMA.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/44050491

This William married Emily WILMOTT  in SA in April 1884.  However the marriage record named his father as William Henry PASCOE??
At the inquest Emily said her husband William was born in Australia and was aged 31. The only William born c1859 in SA was Henry and Amelia’s William born b. 2 Jun 1859 near Watervale.

The confusion of names may be attributed to indecipherable handwriting??

Essie
Title: Re: Henry Pascoe/Amelia Steer
Post by: L44 on Sunday 20 May 18 12:55 BST (UK)
Wow. Interesting information. 
Is the James I found on findagrave a son. The birth date confuses me. 1853.
As I have Mary Elizabeth being born l852/53.
I can’t find any birth records in Cornwall or SA. Their voyage was in 1853. Could he have been born on the boat !

Title: Re: Henry Pascoe/Amelia Steer
Post by: Essie on Sunday 20 May 18 13:29 BST (UK)
James PASCOE aged 25, father named Henry, married 12 Oct 1879 to Margaret Hannah TREZISE.
I think it more likely he was born in 1854 since Mary Elizabeth was registered either Apr/May/Jun 1853.

Essie
Title: Re: Henry Pascoe/Amelia Steer
Post by: L44 on Sunday 20 May 18 13:51 BST (UK)
Ok. Thank you. That makes sense.
James and Margaret are related. 2nd cousins I think .
Amelia Steer -  son James
Hannah Steer - son William Trezise 1837 - his daughter Margaret Hannah 1860.
My GGG Grandmother is their sister Jane Steer married to John Jennings.

I found 8 children for Henry 1851. Would that be correct?
Title: Re: Henry Pascoe/Amelia Steer
Post by: Essie on Monday 21 May 18 07:33 BST (UK)
"I found 8 children for Henry 1851. Would that be correct?"

Sent a PM with records for children of Henry.

Essie
Title: Re: Henry Pascoe/Amelia Steer
Post by: L44 on Tuesday 22 May 18 01:12 BST (UK)
Thank you for your help.