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Title: Martha Vizor (c 1778-1846) Aaron Vizor (c 1777-??) Related?
Post by: ben170292 on Wednesday 16 May 18 08:01 BST (UK)
Hi,

I have 2 people from around the same area/ time and have the same last name, I have a feeling they could be related, can anyone help with this?

this is what I have for now.

Martha Vizor Unknown Parents
Born- c1778
Married- 03 Nov 1808 in Bedminster, Somerset to Joseph Scutts (1778-1857, born and died Foxley)
Died- Jun 1846 in Foxley Wiltshire.
They had at least 6 children baptised in Foxley-
John Scutts (1809-)
Priscilla Vizor Scutts (1810-)
Isaac Scutts (1811-)
Joseph Scutts (1814-)
Joseph Scutts (1816-)
Arthur Scutts (1816-)

Aaron Vizor to Joseph Vizor and Mary
Born - 1777 in Foxley
Married - 13 Feb 1811 (or 1812) in Foxley to Mary Biddle
Died - Unknown
They had at least 4 Children
Joseph Vizor (1812-) Wiltshire
Esther Vizor (1814-1887) b Foxley, d Malmesbury
Mary Vizor (1817-) Wiltshire
Arthur Vizor (1820-) Easton Grey, Wiltshire

I hope this request is okay to ask here and thanks for any help.
Title: Re: Martha Vizor (c 1778-1846) Aaron Vizor (c 1777-??) Related?
Post by: ShaunJ on Wednesday 16 May 18 10:26 BST (UK)
There's a baptism at Luckington on 25 Jun 1775, Martha Vizor daughter of Joseph and Mary
Title: Re: Martha Vizor (c 1778-1846) Aaron Vizor (c 1777-??) Related?
Post by: emeltom on Wednesday 16 May 18 10:31 BST (UK)
www.wiltshire-opc.org.uk/genealogy/index.php/parish-directory/item/241-foxley

The above link should take you to the Wiltshire OPC site for Foxley baptisms. Aaron was born to Joseph and Jane not Mary. They had 9 children, none of them called Martha.

The only Martha Vizor baptism I can find is the one mentioned in the previous post in Luckington.

Emeltom
Title: Re: Martha Vizor (c 1778-1846) Aaron Vizor (c 1777-??) Related?
Post by: arthurk on Wednesday 16 May 18 10:45 BST (UK)
There was a Joseph and Mary having children baptised in Luckington, and a Joseph and Jane having children baptised in Foxley, but the dates overlap. In other words, it doesn't appear to be the same Joseph with different wives.

It seems quite possible that the two Josephs were related, but you'll need to go further back to find the connection.
Title: Re: Martha Vizor (c 1778-1846) Aaron Vizor (c 1777-??) Related?
Post by: arthurk on Wednesday 16 May 18 13:32 BST (UK)
The Vizors are very remotely connected to my wife's family from that area, and she briefly looked into them - about 25 years ago! (NB - the surname is also found as Vizard, Vizar etc.)

There is a possibility that the two Josephs were cousins, both being descended from Arthur and Hannah Vizor of Easton Grey. However, this is just a possibility, not an established fact. Arthur of Easton Grey left a will, proved 1700, Archdeaconry of Wiltshire.

Research is inevitably a bit speculative, as registers are missing for some years, BTs are also patchy, and there aren't many wills to fill the gaps.
Title: Re: Martha Vizor (c 1778-1846) Aaron Vizor (c 1777-??) Related?
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 16 May 18 14:17 BST (UK)
MARRIAGE;
29 May 1771, St Mary and St Ethelbert, Luckington
Joseph VIZER to Mary RIDLEY
Mary was a Widow*
(FreeREG)

Joseph/Mary Baptised Luckington;
JOHN 13 Sep 1772
MARTHA 25 Jun 1775
(Familysearch.Org)

1st Marriage for Mary may be;
Mary HOLBOROW to Thomas RIDLEY 22 Nov 1763 Luckington
(FreeREG)
Title: Re: Martha Vizor (c 1778-1846) Aaron Vizor (c 1777-??) Related?
Post by: arthurk on Thursday 31 May 18 11:48 BST (UK)
Just wondering if the OP has any thoughts on the suggestions made here?
Title: Re: Martha Vizor (c 1778-1846) Aaron Vizor (c 1777-??) Related?
Post by: trish1120 on Thursday 31 May 18 15:48 BST (UK)
Now that you mention it so do I.

Trish :)
Title: Re: Martha Vizor (c 1778-1846) Aaron Vizor (c 1777-??) Related?
Post by: ben170292 on Monday 04 June 18 06:32 BST (UK)
Thanks everyone for the answers, they will help me with continuing my search.
Title: Re: Martha Vizor (c 1778-1846) Aaron Vizor (c 1777-??) Related?
Post by: trish1120 on Monday 04 June 18 14:31 BST (UK)
If you need any more help just ask, otherwise good luck with your research :)
Title: Re: Martha Vizor (c 1778-1846) Aaron Vizor (c 1777-??) Related?
Post by: Sikes on Friday 24 August 18 21:06 BST (UK)
1st Marriage for Mary may be;
Mary HOLBOROW to Thomas RIDLEY 22 Nov 1763 Luckington
(FreeREG)
You might be right with the above. I'm descended from their daughter Mary who was born around 1769. I couldn't find any other siblings or the death of her mother.
Title: Re: Martha Vizor (c 1778-1846) Aaron Vizor (c 1777-??) Related?
Post by: trish1120 on Saturday 25 August 18 10:11 BST (UK)
Hi Sikes.

On Familysearch.Org there are these Children christened to JOSEPH/MARY Ridley in Luckington;
ANN    27 May 1764
THOMAS 22 June 1766   
MARY 9 April 1769
JOHN 15 December 1771
I searched 1761-1781

Now even though John was christened Dec 1771 and Mary Ridley, Widow, married Joseph Vizer May 1771 is doesnt mean that all this info is incorrect.
(it would be interesting to see if it says Father deceased on that christening)

Mary may have had John early 1771 and he was not christened until after she remarried.

I cant find a Burial for Thomas Ridley c 1770 on line and as I am not in England cant help with a look up in Parish Records.

Did your Mary marry 1791 to Joseph Roundthwait ?

Trish :)
Title: Re: Martha Vizor (c 1778-1846) Aaron Vizor (c 1777-??) Related?
Post by: Sikes on Saturday 25 August 18 10:16 BST (UK)
Did your Mary marry 1791 to Joseph Roundthwait ?

Trish :)
Yep, that's my Mary