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Hi all,
I recently did a My Ancestry dna test and it showed 52 % Celt.
I know my father was southern Irish and that is all I know :(
Is there a test that can give me more info ?
Tia, John
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Hi all,
I recently did a My Ancestry dna test and it showed 52 % Celt.
I know my father was southern Irish and that is all I know :(
Is there a test that can give me more info ?
Tia, John
You'd need to find out his name and then try searching Civil reg etc for Marriage..... If born 1916 or before then Birth Cert
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There is not a chance of finding any info at all.
My mother was born and raised in Somerset,moved to London in 1955 to become a nurse. She was single and managed to get pregnant by a blue eyed Irishman in 59.That was the only time she saw him and if she ever knew his name, she never told me.
So my only hope is to find 1st cousin dna matches. I'm more interested to find a physical place of origin than searching for him.
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Than all you can do is upload your RAW DNA to as many of the Genealogy DNA sites as possibly and hope to get 1st or 2nd cousin matches ever 3rd could narrow down to an area.
Have you tried to contact your closest matches on Ancestry?
Keep in mind your number of matches will increase as more people are tested.
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So far, I have only had the test and the closest are 5th cousins. To progress, I have to buy 1 yr subscription.
The one I used was My Heritage
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I have mine on My Heritage and I also don't have a subscription but can see or contact matches so I don't understand why you would need a subscription.
You can down load the Raw DNA and upload it to other sites, not sure if you can upload to Ancestry but there are others out there.
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The best matches I have so far are one at .2 %. First cousin twice removed, 2nd cousin twice removed. The next 3 are 5th. Thats it so far after 6 weeks.
I downloaded my RAW DNA file this morning, then found Family Tree dna to upload it to , now I have to wait until tomorrow to do this (24 hrs between downloads) because it can only be loaded through the site and not as a file.
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I'm more interested to find a physical place of origin than searching for him.
Actually, I am interested.
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If you haven't done so already, you can upload your raw data to gedmatch.com, which is a free site.
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Thank you.
I came here with high expectations. It was allways a long shot at a shortcut.
There are three people I know who look like me,one very much, a generic type ?(like Steve McQueen)I. I will find out the locale his relatives.
Meanwhile, I will upload to gedmatch. :)
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'blue eyed irishmen' sounds romantic.
Did your Mother tell you where she worked as this Nurse,
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What about her friends of the day?
where did she live
where did she give birth
etc etc.. ASK and think.. think hard and search ... all her memories.. She surely has left some memories, or mentioned something besides his 'Blue eyes'
REFLECT sit and really rack your brain..
then check the Nursing hospital, were their 'Navvies' working around the same area.. read the newspapers.
work the old brain cells.
PS have you got the beautiful blue eyes :)
wish you all the best and that I could sort it for you.. too old .. to go chasing around.. so JUST DO IT
xin
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As a bit of encouragement I have a match with a girl who worked out who her Irish grandfather is using DNA matches. My grandfather's nephew. She was lucky to got a 1st cousin match and a couple of 2nds. I was a 3rd but it helped confirm.
I working with another and we have narrowed it down to one family line.
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'blue eyed irishmen' sounds romantic.
Did your Mother tell you where she worked as this Nurse,
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What about her friends of the day?
where did she live
where did she give birth
etc etc.. ASK and think.. think hard and search ... all her memories.. She surely has left some memories, or mentioned something besides his 'Blue eyes'
My relationship has allways been difficult with my mother. She never spoke about her time in London. She died of vascular dementia in 2015.
She had a convent education which must have traumatised her, she was left-handed, and this was tied behind her back and made to use her right. >:( I am also left handed.
My guess is she was in a nurses hostel in 58/59. I was born in 60 at Lambeth hospital. My birth was not registered until 63 when she met and married my fatherwho was in the RAF. She never went back home for several years, imagine her shame..she came from a small rural village and her mother disowned her for years.
My eyes are plain old hazel ;)
My eyes are hazel like hers
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Oh so no secret letters hidden away, no distant cousin that she told her secrets too.. Are you sure.. What about your Step-father did he know anything..
She must have had a close friend....
Keep on with the DNA you never know..
fingers crossed yet again :)
xin
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My mother never socialised or had a close friend untill my step-father died. Her friend was older and went before her, I doubt she ever told her or any other person. I know she was guilt ridden.
Regarding letters. I spoke to her sister at the wake about my search and in a letter next day she said that she thought my real father was in the RAF as well.They would not have revealed his id at the time. She also said it was a brief affair.
That is all I know i'm affraid.
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I'm with other posters who are encouraging you to take a quiet moments to reflect on your early life with your mother which might start to unlock the key to the past. It's amazing what our brains retain, for instance my son remembers certain things which only happened when he was between six and twelve months old whilst we lived in France. Most of my successful family history research comes from my recalling hearing my parents conversations with other people when I was quite young, such as:- given names and even surnames ("The B--ns"), jobs and/or expertise people had, such as; "Nick and his prize pig Esmerelda" (I don't know who he was so haven't found him yet lol)
* Do you know which hospitals she worked at?
* Do you know if she was an SEN (state enrolled nurse) or an SRN (state registered nurse) or an Irish registered nurse If not, I see that there are some available avenues to pursue to discover nurse records.
* Have you explored the theory that some nurses dated their ex patients and the vague suggeston your father could have been in the RAF? Two places they could have met would be at the hospital where she worked and/or at a social evening dance at the barracks he was posted to.
* Here's a webpage that lists former RAF bases, I don't know London at all but notice that RAF Chessington was formerly a research Hospital https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_former_Royal_Air_Force_stations
..It was an RAF camp and rehabilitation station for wounded service personel of junior rank - it was in use for all services (commisioned officers went to Hedley court).
https://www.forces-war-records.co.uk/units/1562/raf-chessington
Best wishes,
Rena
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Thank you Rena and all :)
I really do not have a shred more info. At all.
And my childhood......chaotic...
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Hi
If you have funds to pay for another DNA test you could try Y-DNA testing.
This would be like "fishing in another pond" as it tests the direct paternal line only (your father, his father, his father, etc).
HOWEVER, Y-DNA testing is a bit of a lottery....
You may not get any close matches for years, or you could get a relatively close male match straight away - you really don't know who is on the database until you test.
Either way what you do get is a Haplogroup (like a "clan") and you can join the relevant haplogroup project and get advice on where your direct male line originated.
FTDNA in Texas USA do Y-DNA testing and tend to have sales around June/July and December time (not sure of any other company that conduct these tests now).
Regards,
C
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2% should be a relatively close relative. They may be a relative from your mother's side.
Late last year I helped a man who shared 2% of his DNA with one of my parents to find his birth family. They share 2.1% (154.6 cM), Shared segments 7, Largest segment 47.9 cM
Now that we've worked it out we know he is my third cousin. It was just before Christmas that we worked out who his paternal grandparents must have been. He originally tested at Ancestry and gave me access to his account. Later he uploaded to Gedmatch, MyHeritage and FamilyTreeDNA.
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Hi Carmella,
Yes I think the Haplogroup route is the best way forward,
It will soon betime to check out the sales. ;)
TY hurworth
2% should be a relatively close relative. They may be a relative from your mother's side.
it's the paternal side i'm hunting
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Yes, I realise it's the paternal side you're hunting. Maternal matches are still useful though for eliminating matches.
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Celtic John
FTDNA has launched the "Fathers Day" sales - end 18th June.
Kim