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Title: Thomas Potter b.1864 Mackworth, Derbyshire
Post by: Tessa Spencer on Sunday 20 May 18 09:04 BST (UK)
I'm looking for Thomas Potter b.1864 Mackworth, Derbyshire.
In 1884 he married Ellen Peat in Derby and had  6 children with her. In 1901 he is described a carrier on a farm. In 1891 he is not shown with his wife (who is with her mother in Ashleyhay, Derbyshire).
I have been through all the censuses for Mackworth and can't find any family he might fit.
Can anyone help, please?
Tess
Title: Re: Thomas Potter b.1864 Mackworth, Derbyshire
Post by: BumbleB on Sunday 20 May 18 11:03 BST (UK)
Do you have the marriage certificate, as this will give you the fathers' name for both Thomas and Ellen?

Mackworth would come into the Shardlow Registration District, and I can't see a Thomas Potter registered in 1864.  However, there is a John Thomas Potter registered in June quarter 1864.  From the GRO site, no mother's maiden name is given for John Thomas (and his surname has been transcribed as Polter).
Title: Re: Thomas Potter b.1864 Mackworth, Derbyshire
Post by: Tessa Spencer on Monday 21 May 18 06:29 BST (UK)
Thanks BumbleB,
I think sending for the marriage certificate is the only option. I get the feeling he could have been illigitimate.
Tess
Title: Re: Thomas Potter b.1864 Mackworth, Derbyshire
Post by: suzard on Monday 30 July 18 09:55 BST (UK)
I'm looking for Thomas Potter b.1864 Mackworth, Derbyshire.
In 1884 he married Ellen Peat in Derby and had  6 children with her. In 1901 he is described a carrier on a farm. In 1891 he is not shown with his wife (who is with her mother in Ashleyhay, Derbyshire).
I have been through all the censuses for Mackworth and can't find any family he might fit.
Can anyone help, please?
Tess

If I am looking at the correct family Thomas Potter (married to Ellen -had 6 children but only 3 survived -George Herbert Bertha & Hilda) living at Forman St Derby in 1901 - his occupation is not given as a carrier on a farm but it is recorded as Carman (and Carm written in later -on original this would probably have been written in red -as if confirming)
According to old occupations a Carman was a driver of a 4 horsedrawn vehicle and was similar to todays van drivr -often working for railway companies or delivering goods for companies -which fits in with him later working for a mineral water company delivering their goods.
I haven't found him on 1891 census yet but as his children were born in Derby I think it may be more likely for him to be in Derby area as opposed to mackworth but he could be further afield delivering

Suz