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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (West Riding) => Topic started by: Lizzy Drippin on Tuesday 22 May 18 18:53 BST (UK)
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Can anyone find a marriage for Alfred Law Bolton on Dearne YORKSHIRE. His wife, if they married is called Mary. Their first child Albert born 1876 Bolton on Dearne.
Thanks Lizzy.
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Hi,
It would appear that Alfred and Mary have a son with the name Melton Arthur Law b.1885 (a per 1891). His birth record shows mother's maiden name as Jackson. Have you tried looking for a Law/Jackson marriage?
JJ
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Bolton upon Dearne is in the Doncaster registration district.
A quick look at the GRO index showed:
Albert LAW b Mar qtr 1875 Doncaster vol 9c p683 mmn SMITH
Albert Walter LAW b Sep qtr 1878 Doncaster vol 9c p708 mmn FARMERY
We may be able to rule out the 1878 birth because there is a marriage Jun qtr 1862 Doncaster Henry LAW on the same page as Sarah FARMERY.
If you could let us know the names and birth years of any siblings you have found for Albert this would help clarify the mother's maiden name.
All the best
Philip
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This would appear to be the 1881 for the Law family -
Alfred Law 31
Mary Law 24
Albert Law 4
Annis Law 3
Alfred Law 2
Lilly Law 6m
RG11 Piece 4687 Folio 33 Page 12, Bolton On Dearne, Yorkshire
Having checked all the children's births for the above, they all have MMN as Jackson all but for Albert, where I cannot find a matching birth with the same MMN. Perhaps he was born Albert Jackson.
JJ
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Is this the family in Bolton upon Dearne in 1891? RG12 3680/30 p14 on familysearch
Alfred, 42, head, farm labourer
Mary, 38, wife
Albert 14 son
Annis 13 daughter
Charles 11 son
Lily 10 daughter
Elizabeth 8 daughter
Milton 6 son
Frances 5 son
Thomas 3 son
Ernest 0 son
William Swallow 75 boarder
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This would appear to be the 1881 for the Law family -
Alfred Law 31
Mary Law 24
Albert Law 4
Annis Law 3
Alfred Law 2
Lilly Law 6m
RG11 Piece 4687 Folio 33 Page 12, Bolton On Dearne, Yorkshire
Having checked all the children's births for the above, they all have MMN as Jackson all but for Albert, where I cannot find a matching birth with the same MMN. Perhaps he was born Albert Jackson.
JJ
Alternatively, perhaps Albert's mother was Smith, but (if married!) she died and widow Alfred subsequently married Mary JACKSON. Or maybe neither were married :(
I can't find a matching marriage for Alfred in the Doncaster registration district, but I haven't looked further afield yet.
Given the age discrepancy it would be a gamble to buy the certificate for the 1875 birth to see if that Albert's father was Alfred. I do like JJen's idea that Albert could have been Mary's son before meeting Alfred.
Philip
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There's a marriage of an Alfred Law to a Mary Jackson -
q3 1876, Sheffield
Vol 9c Page 379
A possibility?
JJ
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There's a marriage of an Alfred Law to a Mary Jackson -
q3 1876, Sheffield
Vol 9c Page 379
A possibility?
JJ
Beat me to it! I had just spotted that. It's definitely a possibility as Sheffield is near Doncaster.
I'll have another trawl through the GRO for Albert!
Philip
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Just a bit concerned about the above marriage as the age for Alfred on the cert is 21 and Mary's 20.
The age of Alfred does not fit in with the census. ???
His father is recorded as Charles Law, Mason
JJ
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Now this looks interesting :)
1851 -
Charles Law 34 Stone Mason
Ellen Law 33
Ann Law 12
Sarah Law 10
Harriett Law 7
George Law 4
Alfred Law 1 b. Bolton, Yorkshire
HO107 Piece 2346 Folio 73 Page 25, Bolton upon Dearne
On the marriage cert one of the witnesses is George Law. Looking at the above census Alfred had an older brother George. The other witness is Hannah Law. On the 1881 census George (Alfred's) brother is married to a Hannah.
JJ
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I'll have another trawl through the GRO for Albert!
So, I had another look at the GRO, using a fuzzy search for males surname LAW or similar with mmn JACKSON or similar anywhere in England/Wales and came up with nothing in Doncaster or Sheffield and no Alberts anywhere.
There is always the possibility that as Albert (according to the censuses) was born c1876 and as the LAW/JACKSON marriage in Sheffield (which according to the details JJen found looks right) was in Jun-Sep, the bride and groom ran off to marry before the baby was born and never got round to registering the birth.
Logically, the next step is to hunt church records to see if there is a baptism record for Albert.
Philip
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The images of the PRs for Bolton on Dearne are available to browse of FindMyPast. I can't find a marriage for an Alfred Law but there is one for Herbert Law to Jane Smith 23 Feb 1873. Herbert's father is Charles Law, a Mason. The witnesses were Alfred Law and Mary Swallow.
Charles Law married Ellen Shaw in Bolton on Dearne 24 Dec 1839. Both their fathers were called John.
Charles and Ellen baptised the following children in Bolton on Dearne
Sarah 28 march 1841
George 21 Feb 1847
Harriet 17 Sep 1848
Alfred 16 Sep 1849
Herbert 7 Aug 1853.
Emeltom
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Hi Melton Archer Law was killed WW1. Witnesses for Alfred's brother Herbert are Alfred Law and Mary Swallow and William Swallow is living with Alfred and Mary on one of the censuses. I found Mary Swallow on an earlier census with her parents and William. I assumed this was Alfred's wife. Once I looked into the children I saw that the mother's name is Jackson. Hope this makes sense Lizzy.
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Hi again I have just found a baptism for Albert Swallow born 14/04/1876 baptism 3/05/1876.
I am sure that there is a connection between Mary Swallow and Alfred Law?
Lizzy.
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Hi again I have just found a baptism for Albert Swallow born 14/04/1876 baptism 3/05/1876.
I am sure that there is a connection between Mary Swallow and Alfred Law?
Lizzy.
Hmmm - interesting! I looked on the GRO birth index and found:
SWALLOW Albert, Jun qtr 1876 Doncaster vol 9c p717, mmn - blank
Who were named as parents on the baptism register?
Given the information you and Emeltom found there is clearly a long-term friendship between the SWALLOW and LAW families. However, thousands of boys were given the name Albert in Victorian times, so it might be unrelated. Just to be certain, it would be worth checking the 1881/1891 censuses for Mary SWALLOW (with son Albert) to eliminate him as a possibility.
Philip
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Hi I think Mary Swallow and Mary Jackson are the same person. I have found a birth for Mary Jackson 1857 Doncaster, mother Jackson. Elizabeth Jackson is living with Jonathan Swallow, calling herself Swallow, I can find no marriage. This is Mary's mother.
Alfred Law's brother Herbert marries in 1873 Alfred and Mary Swallow are witnesses. I think for some reason she starts using the name Jackson. On the 1911 census her brother Jonathan s living with her. Maybe the marriage in Sheffield is her after all.
Lizzy.
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There's a marriage of an Alfred Law to a Mary Jackson -
q3 1876, Sheffield
Vol 9c Page 379
JJ
On the marriage cert in the father's name for Mary Jackson there is the name Elizabeth Jackson (mother's name) So the above marriage is looking more positive.
JJ
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Hi again I think it's them, Charles Law is Alfred's father.
Thanks very much Lizzy.
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Hi I think Mary Swallow and Mary Jackson are the same person. I have found a birth for Mary Jackson 1857 Doncaster, mother Jackson. Elizabeth Jackson is living with Jonathan Swallow, calling herself Swallow, I can find no marriage. This is Mary's mother.
That is a brilliant bit of research.
Given what has been found I see no reason to doubt that Mary JACKSON is Mary SWALLOW.
Whether or not she is Jonathan SWALLOW's daughter might never be proveable.
Philip