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Title: Who was Gertrude who died in 1974 ??
Post by: dfk on Thursday 24 May 18 05:36 BST (UK)
Who was Gertrude who died in 1974 as in this photo link to find a grave, its at Fleetwood cemetery.
I cant find any thing about her, was she from overseas ?
Dave.

www.findagrave.com/memorial/167819429/alan-eric-longworth
Title: Re: Who was Gertrude who died in 1974 ??
Post by: brigidmac on Thursday 24 May 18 07:56 BST (UK)
What have you got about when they married ...or children's names
Title: Re: Who was Gertrude who died in 1974 ??
Post by: Kay99 on Thursday 24 May 18 08:01 BST (UK)
Maybe I am missing something but I can't even see a death record for Gertrude  :-\

Kay
Title: Re: Who was Gertrude who died in 1974 ??
Post by: jonw65 on Thursday 24 May 18 08:11 BST (UK)
There's Gertrude Elgey, buried Fleetwood Cemetery, 22 Jan 1974
1 other in grave, not sure that it's an Elgey.

Gertrude's death registered March 1974, Fylde, d-o-b 12 November 1919.

Possible perhaps if Alan + Gertrude weren't actually married.
Title: Re: Who was Gertrude who died in 1974 ??
Post by: dfk on Thursday 24 May 18 08:24 BST (UK)
Was there any thing in the burial record about Canada ?
Title: Re: Who was Gertrude who died in 1974 ??
Post by: Kay99 on Thursday 24 May 18 08:29 BST (UK)
I wonder if Gertrude had been previously married. I can see a Gertrude Brandon of the right age on the 1939 Register

Marriages Jun 1943   
Gertrude Brandon - Frank  Elgey    Blackpool   Vol 8e Page 1254   

Kay
Title: Re: Who was Gertrude who died in 1974 ??
Post by: jonw65 on Thursday 24 May 18 08:31 BST (UK)
It's on deceased online, as is Alan's burial (11 Nov 1972) / grave details  (1 other person).
Might be worth looking him up on there if you can. I haven't seen it myself.

That marriage for Gertrude looks a possibility. But what happened to Frank?
Title: Re: Who was Gertrude who died in 1974 ??
Post by: dfk on Thursday 24 May 18 08:32 BST (UK)
The reason i am looking at Gertrude is because of a mystery in my family line, a relation i now am in contact with after DNA testing is trying to find his biological mother, and she may have been born in about 1944 and giving birth to my relation in the united states in 1962, her mother , if we have the generational line about right puts Alan Eric Longworth and his sibblings in the frame, he may have some kind of a conection with canada perhaps, and of course gertrude seems very hard to find in the records.
Title: Re: Who was Gertrude who died in 1974 ??
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 24 May 18 08:37 BST (UK)
There's Gertrude Elgey, buried Fleetwood Cemetery, 22 Jan 1974
1 other in grave, not sure that it's an Elgey.

The other person is Alan E Longworth  ;)
Title: Re: Who was Gertrude who died in 1974 ??
Post by: jonw65 on Thursday 24 May 18 08:39 BST (UK)
Thank's for that, Rosie!
Title: Re: Who was Gertrude who died in 1974 ??
Post by: Kay99 on Thursday 24 May 18 08:48 BST (UK)

That marriage for Gertrude looks a possibility. But what happened to Frank?

There is a death of a Frank Elergy  08/1997 Trafford Greater Manchester  - birth 15/06/1915 and in 1939 he was living in Blackpool.   Maybe  they never divorced??

Kay
Title: Re: Who was Gertrude who died in 1974 ??
Post by: dfk on Thursday 24 May 18 09:18 BST (UK)
Thank you everyone , i have got a lot of very interesting info now, lots to add to my tree, for now thanks very much.
Dave.
Title: Re: Who was Gertrude who died in 1974 ??
Post by: Radcliff on Thursday 24 May 18 10:48 BST (UK)
Gertrude Brandon,born 11th November 1919,
mother Hill,as already mentioned she is in Blackpool in 1939 with her family and unmarried at this point the addition of Elgey being added later.
their is a marriage of Philip Brandon to Lilliam Hill in 1906 Bolton, this is a catholic marriage, 11th August,Phillipum Brandon,to Lillium Hill,grooms father Thomae Brandon,mothers father Jacobi Hill,but if it is the same family you seek,I would think there would be no divorce for Gertrude
Title: Re: Who was Gertrude who died in 1974 ??
Post by: Radcliff on Thursday 24 May 18 10:58 BST (UK)
Gertrude a family name perhaps,
St Josephs Bury
born 20th April 1894
baptised 13 th May
Gertrude Brandon
daughter of Thomas and Maria formerly Leeming
god parents Ricardus and Maria Brandon
Title: Re: Who was Gertrude who died in 1974 ??
Post by: Radcliff on Thursday 24 May 18 11:37 BST (UK)
as the birth is registered in Dec 1944
Blackpool I wont put the name it appears there is a Child born Elgy mother Brandon
Title: Re: Who was Gertrude who died in 1974 ??
Post by: Radcliff on Sunday 27 May 18 20:28 BST (UK)
another marriage could this be the same Frank
Blackpool 1945 Frank Elgie to Hilda Brindley
Title: Re: Who was Gertrude who died in 1974 ??
Post by: Radcliff on Sunday 27 May 18 21:55 BST (UK)
and Frank Elgey was actually Frank Lyon