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Research in Other Countries => New Zealand => New Zealand Completed Requests => Topic started by: Lady Mary on Thursday 24 May 18 11:12 BST (UK)
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Looking for any information on Charlotte Elizabeth and Frederick Bosworth KINGSFORD. They were early residents of Razorback (near Bombay/Pokeno) Especially looking for their arrival around 1880. They reappear in the UK in 1901. Frederick owned land around Pokeno but I know little else. Papers Past has no info. other than he was on the Pokeno Domain Board and put himself forward as a representative for a General Election.
T.I.A.,
Mary
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.....Edit..... Papers Past has no info. other than he was on the Pokeno Domain Board and put himself forward as a representative for a General Election.
T.I.A.,
Mary
Morning Mary.
If you just use 'Kingsford' as your search item in Papers Past, limited to just the Auckland newspapers and the date range you mention, and no adverts, there are quite a number of hits for both a Mr and a Mrs KINGSFORD in the South Auckland area you mention. Particularly to do with Church matters, the fundraising for etc. There are also NZ coastal shipping mentions, though some of those give different Christian names or initials, but could be related.
Unfortunately as it is also a name associated with gold mining etc, there are a lot of unwanted hits unless the search critera is refined.
My family were in the area at the time you mention, but moved to the Waikato in 1906. However members like kiwihalfpint know the area, and from the open days at the Pukekohe East Church I know that there are others who may be able to assist.
- Alan.
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Would Montague KINGSFORD be related because he gets mentions? I have found references to a 6 page will relating to his death 29/5/1942. Also this is a surname with later history in the Cambridge area.
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Hello Mary,
The 1881 electoral roll has him living in Pokeno in the Franklin South electorate,occupation farmer and his Property qualification was 350 acres, Maungatawhiri which were freehold.
The 1893 roll has his occupation as Gentleman living at Razorback in the Waitemata Electorate
Freehold land with a Half share part Te Pua, Tangihua
Cheers Janette
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1893 also has an entry the same as 1881 but it has become the Waipa electorate,he looks to have had land in two different places.
Cheers Janette
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Mr F B and Mrs C E KINGSFORD arrived in London on the Rimutaka on 17th May 1896 - information from incoming passenger lists, on Ancestry.
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Hello Mary,
These items may be of interest to you............
Mr. F. B. Kingsford leaving for England………[1893]
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH18931027.2.4.5?end_date=31-12-1949&page=5&phrase=2&query=f.+b.+kingsford&start_date=01-01-1839
A snippet about Mrs. F. B. Kingsford as organist…….[1890]
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/AS18900804.2.6?end_date=31-12-1949&page=10&phrase=2&query=f.+b.+kingsford&start_date=01-01-1839
Minniehaha.
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Hello,
Throwing this into the mix, as Alan mentioned Montague.
There is a a death for a Montague Kingsford 1942 aged 87 and a Charlotte Eliza aged 81 1955 in the Otahuhu Public Cemetery.
http://www.aucklandcity.govt.nz/dbtw-wpd/cemeteries/cemetery.html
There is also a Probate held for Charlotte Eliza Kingsford held at Auckland.
https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/SimpleSearchResults.do
Cheers
KHP
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However members like kiwihalfpint know the area.
Yes, I may know the area, but the family may not have settled there permanently. :)
According to The New Zealand Gazettes Frederick Bosworth Kingsford is mentioned as being in:
1880-1881 Franklin
1882 Manukau
1884 Maungatawhiri
1888-1892 Manukau
1890 Waitemata
Yes similar to what Janette has put down. ;D
Cheers
KHP
Added: Just a side note, the middle name Bosworth has also been transcribed as Besworth.
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There is a Frederick Bosworth Kingsford who died 11 May 1929 in Bristol, England, Probate date was 3 Jul 1929 and a Charlotte Elizabeth who died 15 April 1929 Bristol, England, Probate 3 August 1929.
Cheers
KHP
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Hi Mary,
Do you know the occupation of Frederick in England, before coming to New Zealand?
Minniehaha.
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Added: Just a side note, the middle name Bosworth has also been transcribed as Besworth.
On FindMyPast some have it as Boseworth
Cheers Janette
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A snippet concerning Mr. L. Kingsford, son of Mr. F. B. Kingsford……..[1894]
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH18940118.2.67?end_date=31-12-1895&page=7&phrase=2&query=f.+b.+kingsford&start_date=01-01-1878&type=ILLUSTRATION%2CARTICLE
His departure from New Zealand?
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/EP18940118.2.6?end_date=31-12-1949&page=2&phrase=2&query=l.+kingsford&start_date=01-01-1839
Minniehaha.
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Minnie,
I am just guessing, if Frederick had his occupation down as Gentleman in the E/R's and had land here, and going by the 1871 Census, where his father had land and employed at least 20 people, I guess he was a Gentleman over there. He would only have been 20 years then.
But we wait for Mary to answer your question :D
Cheers
KHP
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Graduation ceremony Edinburgh 1897 for L. Kingsford of new Zealamd
Bachelor of Medicine and Master of Surgery
Edinburgh Evening News 31 July 1897
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A little more about the son, L. Kingsford and his educational achievements in New Zealand.
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/ESD18910128.2.9?end_date=31-12-1894&phrase=2&query=l.+kingsford&start_date=01-01-1886
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/ESD18931103.2.24?end_date=31-12-1894&page=2&phrase=2&query=l.+kingsford&start_date=01-01-1886
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/OW18941025.2.186?end_date=31-12-1894&page=5&phrase=2&query=l.+kingsford&start_date=01-01-1886
In the last report he is shown as J. L. Kingsford.
Minniehaha.
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Frederick B Kingsford has also been transcribed as Thingsford on FindMyPast.
Cheers
KHP
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https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/AS18781004.2.3.5?end_date=31-12-1878&page=3&phrase=0&query=Famenoth&start_date=01-01-1878
Possible arrival N.Z.?
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"Mr. F. B. Kingsford having sold his farm........."[1894]
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH18941221.2.72.1?end_date=31-12-1949&page=6&phrase=2&query=f.+b.+kingsford&start_date=01-01-1839
Minniehaha.
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L = Leslie mentioned in his Mother's Probate and the 1901 Census.
Cheers
KHP
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If I have the right Leslie. Died aged 91 about June 1965, Liverpool South. Birth abt 1873
Cheers
KHP
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Birth Dover MMN KELSEY. Dec qtr 1873
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Greeting and thanks to everyone for the helpful information. Some I have sent a personal message to. I am writing a short biography on the women of the Razorback area who were on the 1893 electoral roll in preparation for the 125yr suffagette celebrations in Pukekohe. The roll for Franklin was lost or destroyed so we (Franklin Branch NZSG) are using the 1893 roll to identify those who most likely signed the petition. I was completely 'stuck' on Mrs Kingsford but thanks to you all I have enough info to proceed. It was hard to search just by her name as most women were/are known by their husbands name and initials.
As a matter of interest Leslie Kingsford their son was born in England, went to school at Bombay and later Auckland Grammer. He won several scholarships and I suspect did a year at Otago University training as a Doctor. It is possible the family returned to England for him to complete his studies.
Regards,
Mary
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The roll for Franklin was lost or destroyed so we (Franklin Branch NZSG) are using the 1893 roll to identify those who most likely signed the petition.
Regards,
Mary
Good Luck, just received a notification about this in my email box today.
Cheers
KHP
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Leslie KINGSFORD's entry in the 1907 British Medical Register.