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Title: LAndSWRY Laborer occupation
Post by: darlenemarynorris on Thursday 24 May 18 21:38 BST (UK)
In the 1891 England census my ancestors occupation is LAndSWRY Laborer.  Can anyone tell me what that stands for?
1901 his occupation is Credit Draper and in 1911 is Furniture Dealer.
Thank you for your help.
Title: Re: occupation
Post by: philipsearching on Thursday 24 May 18 21:41 BST (UK)
In the 1891 England census my ancestors occupation is LAndSWRY Laborer.  Can anyone tell me what that stands for?
1901 his occupation is Credit Draper and in 1911 is Furniture Dealer.
Thank you for your help.

London and South Western Railway?

Philip
Title: Re: occupation
Post by: carol8353 on Thursday 24 May 18 22:01 BST (UK)
Hello there and welcome to Rootschat.

Can you tell us who you are talking about and where he was living and then we can take a look ourselves to make an informed decision.

Regards

Carol
Title: Re: occupation
Post by: andrewalston on Friday 25 May 18 01:30 BST (UK)
If it is the Edward Robbins living in Wimbledon, then it is definitely the London & South Western Railway. Wikipedia has an entry about Wimbledon Station giving its history.

The census office has annotated the occupation with "Plate" - their abbreviation of Platelayer.
Title: Re: occupation
Post by: darlenemarynorris on Friday 25 May 18 19:35 BST (UK)
Thank you so much to each of you who replied.
Title: Re: occupation
Post by: carol8353 on Friday 25 May 18 22:44 BST (UK)
If it is the Edward Robbins living in Wimbledon, then it is definitely the London & South Western Railway. Wikipedia has an entry about Wimbledon Station giving its history.

The census office has annotated the occupation with "Plate" - their abbreviation of Platelayer.

How could you possibly guess who the OP was referring to,there was no mention of his name in her first posting?
Title: Re: occupation
Post by: andrewalston on Sunday 27 May 18 18:55 BST (UK)
But there was an occupation, and I just searched FindMyPast for "L & S*". There were only a handful of results, and only one mentioned labourer.

Wildcards are your friend!
Title: Re: occupation
Post by: darlenemarynorris on Wednesday 06 June 18 00:49 BST (UK)
I have another occupation question.  1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census  Henry Robins and family.  I think his occupation is Ballast paint Guard and then some initials beside it? 
I could only find ballast heaver and ballast man in the old english occupations that I googled. 
Thank you for helping me figure out how you knew who my ancestor was in my last inquiry.   
Title: Re: LAndSWRY Laborer occupation
Post by: carol8353 on Wednesday 06 June 18 07:05 BST (UK)
Where does this Henry Robins live,how old is he and when you say family,who are they?

In 1891 there are 148 people called Henry Robins, I'm not going to look at them all for you  ;D

Carol 
Title: Re: LAndSWRY Laborer occupation
Post by: stanmapstone on Wednesday 06 June 18 08:42 BST (UK)
Could  be Ballast Train Guard ? That is a guard on a train carrying ballast and sand to deliver to permanent way gangs along the railway line.

Ballast Guard: A goods guard in charge of train of trucks conveying ballast for use in repair of permanent way. From "A Dictionary of Occupational Terms"
Stan
Title: Re: LAndSWRY Laborer occupation
Post by: Bee on Wednesday 06 June 18 10:58 BST (UK)
Where does this Henry Robins live,how old is he and when you say family,who are they?

In 1891 there are 148 people called Henry Robins, I'm not going to look at them all for you  ;D

Carol

From the transcription on Familysearch
He appears to be 35 years old born Berkshire, occupation given as "ballist train guard LSN"
Title: Re: LAndSWRY Laborer occupation
Post by: stanmapstone on Wednesday 06 June 18 11:13 BST (UK)
It is Train

Stan
Title: Re: LAndSWRY Laborer occupation
Post by: carol8353 on Wednesday 06 June 18 12:43 BST (UK)
Where does this Henry Robins live,how old is he and when you say family,who are they?

In 1891 there are 148 people called Henry Robins, I'm not going to look at them all for you  ;D

Carol

From the transcription on Familysearch
He appears to be 35 years old born Berkshire, occupation given as "ballist train guard LSN"

How did you even get to the 1891 census on Family Search,it is the most confusing of all the websites and very American biased.

I log on and get "Search Historical Records" you then put a name in but if you don't know their approx date of birth you get thousands of possibles. I don't see anywhere to enter an occupation least of all narrow down a particular UK census?

Carol
Title: Re: LAndSWRY Laborer occupation
Post by: andrewalston on Wednesday 06 June 18 19:42 BST (UK)
The company looks to be the London & South Western again. Probably couldn't squeeze in the "&".
Title: Re: LAndSWRY Laborer occupation
Post by: Melbell on Wednesday 06 June 18 20:52 BST (UK)
Carol8353

Familysearch is not a sensible first place to try to look for a census entry.  I'm afraid you need one of the pay sites, or to go to a record office.  If a census entry comes up on FS it's a free bonus!

Melbell
Title: Re: LAndSWRY Laborer occupation
Post by: stanmapstone on Wednesday 06 June 18 21:38 BST (UK)
In 1901  he is a Foreman (Ballast Train).

Stan
Title: Re: LAndSWRY Laborer occupation
Post by: Mart 'n' Al on Wednesday 06 June 18 23:18 BST (UK)
Having worked for South West Trains at Wimbledon, I'll add that ballast is the name for the pieces of stone that the sleepers and rails are bedded on to. It is the off-white mis-shapen stones, one to two inches across.

Martin
Title: Re: LAndSWRY Laborer occupation
Post by: carol8353 on Wednesday 06 June 18 23:25 BST (UK)
Carol8353

Familysearch is not a sensible first place to try to look for a census entry.  I'm afraid you need one of the pay sites, or to go to a record office.  If a census entry comes up on FS it's a free bonus!

Melbell

Melbell,that is exactly my point,unless we are given more info from the start how can we possibly find someone on the censuses on either Find My Past or Ancestry,both of which I have subscribed to for at least 20 years.
Title: Re: LAndSWRY Laborer occupation
Post by: Bee on Thursday 07 June 18 02:05 BST (UK)
Where does this Henry Robins live,how old is he and when you say family,who are they?

In 1891 there are 148 people called Henry Robins, I'm not going to look at them all for you  ;D

Carol

From the transcription on Familysearch
He appears to be 35 years old born Berkshire, occupation given as "ballist train guard LSN"

How did you even get to the 1891 census on Family Search,it is the most confusing of all the websites and very American biased.

I log on and get "Search Historical Records" you then put a name in but if you don't know their approx date of birth you get thousands of possibles. I don't see anywhere to enter an occupation least of all narrow down a particular UK census?

Carol

I always enter England in the location, I find this usually filters out all the US entries, and there isn't anywhere to enter an occupation.
Title: Re: LAndSWRY Laborer occupation
Post by: Melbell on Thursday 07 June 18 10:30 BST (UK)
Re Census searches - you just have to try over and over again, with every trick you can think of.  I've searched for years for some people and then - bingo - suddenly there they are!  One ancestor eluded me for years and then turned up (mis-transcribed) in the most obvious place.  Some of the transcriptions are truely off-key.  It did occur to me that if I had visited the appropriate record office, as in the old days, and scrolled through the whole thing on film I would have found him. This is the down-side of entering even vaguely specific info. in searchable databases.  I would have been better browsing the whole thing.

And of course Familysearch is only an index.

Melbell
Title: Re: occupation
Post by: carol8353 on Thursday 07 June 18 10:43 BST (UK)
I have another occupation question.  1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census  Henry Robins and family.  I think his occupation is Ballast paint Guard and then some initials beside it? 
I could only find ballast heaver and ballast man in the old english occupations that I googled. 
Thank you for helping me figure out how you knew who my ancestor was in my last inquiry.

I still think you are missing the point Melbell.

The OP asked for help to find what the correct occupation was ,and I asked for more info as we didn't even have his name,age,or where he lived.

Then a couple of people seemed to be able to find who he was and what it said by just the dodgy occupation.With one saying they had found them on Family Search...again without a name HOW???

 8)

Carol
Title: Re: LAndSWRY Laborer occupation
Post by: Melbell on Saturday 09 June 18 10:12 BST (UK)
Not trying to be awkward or clever, but I don't understand the problem.  The occupation was found by looking at other websites - pooling research resources.

Melbell
Title: Re: LAndSWRY Laborer occupation
Post by: darlenemarynorris on Sunday 10 June 18 04:00 BST (UK)
Thank you to all who replied regarding my second occupation inquiry.