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Hi all I have registered ok and when I try and get access by typing in John Edward Richardson I get no records found
In fact that comes up no matter who I type in
Could it be my laptop.
I am using Google Chrome and Windows 10
Thanks
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Welcome to RootsChat, I think you have misunderstood what RootsChat is, there are no records to be found here, there are however lots of people who will help you find records elsewhere or explain how to find them.
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Thank You
I (wrongly it seems) assumed you could type in a name and date of birth and records would be displayed.
I am just setting off on my family tree and leaped to the wrong conclusion. Any help would be appreciated to point me in the right direction........................
Thanks again
Dave
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Thank You
I (wrongly it seems) assumed you could type in a name and date of birth and records would be displayed.
I am just setting off on my family tree and leaped to the wrong conclusion. Any help would be appreciated to point me in the right direction........................
Thanks again
Dave
The right direction is to post whatever information you have IN FULL on the person you are looking for
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If you give something in the way of dates and location for the man you mention, then possibly someone very kindly will make use of their time, and subscriptions to paid sites such as "Find my past" or "Ancestry" to set you on your way! You could, however, without cost to yourself use Free B M D to access approximate dates of birth, marriages and deaths, and search on from there via local parish registers that may be available online.
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Thanks all
Yes I did fill in all the required fields with exact dates and a range of dates to no avail.
I will try B M D
thank you again
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You could, however, without cost to yourself use Free B M D to access approximate dates of birth, marriages and deaths,
FreeBMD https://www.freebmd.org.uk/
Stan
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Thanks all
Yes I did fill in all the required fields with exact dates and a range of dates to no avail.
I will try B M D
thank you again
You have to make a posting here with details!!
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What I meant was, if in a post on here you supply the dates and locations involved, someone may feel able to make a start on using their own resources to assist you! - As Hallmark suggests!
A "search" on here, which wouldn't incorporate full details, would only throw up any previous entries mentioning the person, if others had already posted about them.
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You mention you are seeking info for a chap named John Edward Richardson. Do you know when he died, or when he was born, or where (what country) he was born...
JM
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Ah Yes Yorky
I see now
Thank you
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I have some info on John Edward Richardson, but not much, so here goes
DoB 20 01 12
Probably in Middlesbrough, Cleveland (maybe N Yorks)
Died around 09 08 80
Spouse
Lily Gertrude (Kerr) Richardson
DoB ?
Died 29 09 90 in Middlesbrough
If any one can set me off it would be greatly appreciated
Many many thanks
Dave
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From FreeBMD Births:
John E Richardson MarQ 1912 Middlesbro 9d 1025 (mother's maiden name Shea)
Using FreeBMD Marriages, possible marriage of parents:
John Richardson MarQ 1906 Middlesbro 9d 786 (bride: Ellen Shea)
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From FreeBMD we have this marriage:
Marriages Dec 1934
Richardson
John E
Middlesbro' 9d/1537
From here you can order their marriage cert. using the above info which gives father's names:
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp
The 1939 Register doesn't throw up a John Richardson born on the date you gave however there are 2 born Jan. 1912 both Co. Durham.
More looking required.
I see NannyJan has beaten me to it.
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Thank you so much you are both some Bananas (that's a compliment)
Shea has been mentioned in the family but I thought it was a red herring!
Brilliant thanks
I will also try the other links.
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Using FreeBMD births with surname Richardson, mother Shea and district Middlesbro there is a daughter born in 1913, Wilhelmina.
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Wilhelmina is a new one! The dates and names certainly match though
thank you
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I can't see the family in 1911 yet.
There's a family in Leeds prior to 1911 having children mmn Shea, not sure about them.
This is why marriage certs. are so important.
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- you see, everyone's dashed off to their "Ancestry" / "Find my Past" / other sites, as well as free BMD, to get you off to a decent start.
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Having had a hunt around, could he possibly have gone to another country than Great Britain? I seem to be having little success tracking him down for any certainty in Britain. ( never realised it was such a common combination of names!). Middlesborough is North Yorkshire, at that time, yes?
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Middlesbrough was N Riding Yorkshire in those days
Very little chance of another country being involved until his war days in the Coldstream Guards
Will the Army have records for him?
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Welcome to rootschat
Army records for those serving after 1920 are still with the MOD
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=651361.0
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do you have his service number?
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No, afraid not
I only know he was in the CS Guards and served and wounded in Italy - allegedly!
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Hi again
J E Richardson may have a service number of 2654435
May have been Lance Corporal
Injured in 1943 in Italy - maybe!
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Hi all
You have been a tremendous help to me in my research and it has gone really well.
I wonder if I could ask another favour please?
This time it concerns my wife's side of the family.
Her father was Derek Friel sometimes called Eric he was born 18/02/1918 in Glasgow, 293 London Road and died in Middlesbrough 17/12/2011.
I need help with his father and with it being in Scotland am not sure how to go about this.
Derek's father may have been William John Friel and he married Margaret S Kane (? Maybe) 20/10/1913
Is there a specific site that deals with Scotland.
Any help will be greatly appreciated
Thank you
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Hi Dave the only place for Scottish records is https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/ all other sites only have transcriptions while the originals hold much more It is a pay to view site but very reasonable
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Is there a specific site that deals with Scotland.
https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/
It looks as if there are 5 records for persons named
Derek Friel 4 births and 1 death, and 10 records for persons named
William John Friel 3 births, 2 deaths, 5 marriages
you need to register and pay for credits
EDIT
Similarly doing the free search shows 7 records for persons name Margaret S Kane there are
2 births, 1 death, 4 marriages
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there is a marriage between William John Friel and Mary Kane in 1913 in the Blythswood parish of Glasgow
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Derek's father may have been William John Friel and he married Margaret S Kane (? Maybe) 20/10/1913
Derek Friel sometimes called Eric born 18/02/1918 in Glasgow, 293 London Road and died in Middlesbrough 17/12/2011.
Did Derek marry in Middlesborough?
There's a Derek Friel on the UK, Electoral Registers, 2003-2010 living Middlesborough (details from Anc*y)
You could obtain his marriage certificate from the GRO www.gro.gov.uk to confirm his father's name
Sep 1945 Middlesbro' 9d 1622
Friel Derek
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There is a birth of a Derrick Friel born 1918 in the Camlachie area of Glasgow
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You people are brilliant
Thank you so much
Yes Ladyhawk he married in Middlesbrough
Between you al you have provided some excellent information
Many many thanks
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There is a birth of a Derrick Friel born 1918 in the Camlachie area of Glasgow
Did Derek have siblings?
James FRIEL 1915 Camlachie
Elizabeth FRIEL 1921 Camlachie
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Dave, the 1918 birth for Derek mentioned, you will not be able to view online (due to 100 yr privacy rule for births - current cut off for birth certs is 1917). You will therefore have to order it from Scotlands People.
If the marriage in 1913 is the correct one, there is a birth for a William John Friel in 1887 in Camlachie area of Glasgow. There is a Friel family in Camlachie for 1891 and 1901 that could be William's family.
As always though, you need to confirm details as you go. Have you got Derek's marriage that Ladyhawk has mentioned or do you need to order to check details?
Monica
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there is a marriage between William John Friel and Mary Kane in 1913 in the Blythswood parish of Glasgow
there is a birth for a William John Friel in 1887 in Camlachie area of Glasgow.
There's also this birth entry Mary KANE in 1885 in Camlachie
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Hi Ladyhawk
Thank you so much for your efforts
Yes there were siblings for Derek Friel but little is known about them and that area of Glasgow is right too.
I think Friel is actually an Irish name and so given it is quite a rare surname those siblings mentioned
James and Elizabeth are probably correct.
You all have given me much to sort through
wonderful
Dave
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Hi again.
Firstly thank you for all your help so far and I have amassed quite a lot of knowledge
However I would like your help one last time.
I have researched my mother and father and my late wife's father.
I now need information on my late wife's mother if possible please.
Her name was Lillian Taylor and she married Derek Friel in 1945
Lillian was born in Harrogate maybe 1920?
She died in 1991 in Middlesbrough
Lillian's mother may have been Hannah McGrother
I have no further information - yet
Thanks in advance
Dave
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lillian married derek friel in middlesboro in september quarter of 1945 Reference: Middlesbro' 9d 1622 Suggest you look for marriage certificate as this will give fathers details and residence address, if you dont have it within the family then you can buy one online.
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Lilian Taylor born 1919 to mother McGrother in Knaresboro Reference: 9a 162
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There is a marriage of Ellen McGrother to Tom Taylor in Knaresboro in 1914 Reference: 9a 210
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woow this brilliant as ever
thank you
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Following births have been found for Taylor/McGrother
TAYLOR, EMILY JANE MCGROTHER
GRO Reference: 1915 D Quarter in BRADFORD Volume 09B Page 232
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Do you have a good idea of the address she lived at in 1939 and i can check the register
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In 1939 Lillian Taylor lived in Harrogate or Knaresborough
That is all I know right now but I may be able to get more information soon.
thanks
d
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Ellen McGrother to Tom Taylor in Knaresboro in 1914 Reference: 9a 210
Yorkshire BMD 1914 they married Knaresborough Register Office or Registrar Attended
Lilian Taylor born 1919 to mother McGrother in Knaresboro Reference: 9a 162
You can order an online PDF birth certificate from GRO costs £6
She died in 1991 in Middlesbrough
If this is her death entry it gives her dob which might help when you search 1939 Register
Lilian Friel died age 72 born 22 Sep 1919
Oct 1991 Central Cleveland Vol 3 Page 2283
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This is purely speculation as you do need to confirm Lilian Taylor’s parents names but to keep in mind there’s this entry
MCGROTHER, ELLEN mmn HUTCHINSON
1892 M Quarter in MIDDLESBROUGH Volume 09D Page 537
There are also these entries Middlesbro’
1884 James mmn Hutchinson
1889 Joseph mmn Hutchinson
1894 Catherine mmn Hutchinson
1896 John mmn Hutchinson
1911 Ellen McGrother born c1891 Middlesbro'
employee, a servant (Hotel Waitress) in Ripon Yorkshire - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWNN-5PT
There's this marriage entry in Middlesbro’ as a possibility for her parents
Sep 1883
John McGrother
Female names on same page
Emily Jane Hutchinson
Elizabeth Jefferson
1891 census RG12; Piece: 4005; Folio: 52; Page: 18
John McGrother 31 shipyard riveter
Emily Jane 32
James 6
Joseph 1
Mary Monaghan 11 niece
Emily born Hartlepool all others Middlesbro'
1901c RG13; Piece: 4575; Folio: 42; Page: 25 - surname transcribed as McGROWTHER
John 41 ,
Emily 42
James 16 ,
Joseph 11,
ELLEN 9 Middlesbro'
Catherine 7,
John 5
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According to the Death Certificate
Lillian Friel was born in Harrogate, yet records posted on here say Knaresborough.
Is this type of discrepency common?
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possibly actually born in harrogate but the registration district for harrogate was knaresboro
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https://www.ukbmd.org.uk/reg/districts/knaresborough.html
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Hello everyone.
Thank you for all your assistance in the past. I think I have one final question.
I have collected much information on my family and currently have it on my lap top in powerpoint format. I want to get 2 hard copies for my family preferably as a book.
Is there any advice you can give as to how to achieve this aim.
Thank you in advance