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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Aberdeenshire => Topic started by: Cnthree3 on Saturday 26 May 18 11:13 BST (UK)
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Hello
can anyone help decipher this text as it may be evidence of an illegitimate child that could break down the brick wall on this tree
many thanks
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This might be a little easier to read
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1844, July 2nd. John Wright junr residing at Hillhead of Corsindae and Jessy Sherriffs residing at Cartorfolds had an illegitimate son baptized at Thainstone in the parish of Kintore by the Revd Mr Simpson, free Church Minister of Kintore before these witnesses viz John Stephen and George Stephen both residing at Thainstone in the said parish of Kintore. Named James. Born 26th April 1844.
Thainstone http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NJ7718,
Hillhead of Corsindae
http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=16&lat=57.1624&lon=-2.5153&layers=5&b=1
Jessy Sherrifs, aged 15, is at Cartars, Midmar in 1841. This is very close to Corsindae, as you can see from the map.
In 1851 James Wright, 6, grandson, is in the household of John Wright and his wife Magdaline at Hillhead in Midmar. I note with interest that John, son of John Wright and Magdaline Jamieson, was baptised in Inverurie on 27 April 1823. They also had Anne, baptised 1832, and Isaac, baptised 1836, who exactly match the other two members of the household in 1851.
In 1841 John Sr and Magdalen Wright were at Ardybrown, Chapel of Garioch, with three Wright and two Jameson children.
You can look at transcription of these censuses at https://www.freecen.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
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Scotlandspeople has transcribed the name as Wright
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This might be a little easier to read
wish I had know how to do that! thank you!!
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1844, July 2nd. John Wright junr residing at Hillhead of Corsindae and Jessy Sherriffs residing at Cartorfolds had an illegitimate son baptized at Thainstone in the parish of Kintore by the Revd Mr Simpson, free Church Minister of Kintore before these witnesses viz John Stephen and George Stephen both residing at Thainstone in the said parish of Kintore. Named James. Born 26th April 1844.
Thainstone http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NJ7718,
Hillhead of Corsindae
http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=16&lat=57.1624&lon=-2.5153&layers=5&b=1
Jessy Sherrifs, aged 15, is at Cartars, Midmar in 1841. This is very close to Corsindae, as you can see from the map.
In 1851 James Wright, 6, grandson, is in the household of John Wright and his wife Magdaline at Hillhead in Midmar. I note with interest that John, son of John Wright and Magdaline Jamieson, was baptised in Inverurie on 27 April 1823. They also had Anne, baptised 1832, and Isaac, baptised 1836, who exactly match the other two members of the household in 1851.
In 1841 John Sr and Magdalen Wright were at Ardybrown, Chapel of Garioch, with three Wright and two Jameson children.
You can look at transcription of these censuses at https://www.freecen.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
thank you so very very much for this fabulous information. so much more that I could have expected. I really appreciate your time thank you! :)
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enclosed is the extract of James marriage record. It shows a different mother - possibly his fathers wife. What do the initials MS next to her name ? cathrine? Sawson Deceased.
many thanks
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M.S= Maiden Surname. I would suggest Lawson not Sawson was her maiden surname.
William
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Makes sense now you say it but I had not seen that before. Many thanks and for pointing out my error - important to get it right.
thanks for your time
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There is an OPR marriage record for John Wright and Catherine Lawson 6 July 1850- Tullynessie and Forbes, Aberdeenshire.
William
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1861 Census, 13 Loch Street, Aberdeen
John Wright, head, married, 37, sawmiller, born Inverurie
Catherine Wright, wife, married, 31, born Tullynessle
James Wright, son, 16, born Midmar.
1871 census, 6 Lower Auchindryne, Crathie and Braemar
John Wright, head, married, 47, saw miller, born Inverurie
Catherine Wright, wife, married, 40, born Tullynessle
(BTW It's Tullynessle not Tullynessie)
Catherine Wright, other surname Lawson, died in Crathie and Braemar in 1879, aged 47.
In 1881, at Auchendryne, Crathie and Braemar
John Wright, head, married, 57, sawmiller, born Clunie
Jessie Wright, wife, married, 42, born Duthil.
John Wright married Jessie Fraser in Crathie and Braemar on 1880. If I were you I would get a copy of that marriage certificate, because if it tells you that John Wright was a widower and his mother was Magdalene Jamieson, I reckon that is enough to prove that he is the right one.
A John Wright, aged 71, died in Braemar in 1895. I'd go for that certificate because if it lists the two wives, as it should do, that would clinch it.
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John Sherriffs (several spelling variations) and Mary Nicol had
Jessy, baptised 2 July 1825 at Midmar
Margaret, baptised 1 August 1826, Midmar
James, baptised 1 November 1827, Midmar
George, baptised 27 April 1830, Midmar
1941 census: Cartars, Midmar
John Sheriffs, 45, farmer
Mary Sheriffs, 50
Margaret Sheriffs, 14
George Sheriffs, 11
Jessy Sheriffs, 15
Mary McDonald, 6
all born in Aberdeenshire
Can't find them in 1851 or 1861, but a Jessie Sheriff married in Forfar in 1854, so maybe they moved south.
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Thanks to you all for your time and help - I've made some great discoveries as a result!