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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: Greaves on Sunday 27 May 18 12:35 BST (UK)
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Hi
I am trying to find out what happened to John James DEARLOVE, who was sentenced to 10 years deportation at the Old Bailey in 1844, aged 23. He was transported aboard the Maria Somes which arrived in Van Diemens Land on 30 Jul 1844.
I have no idea what happened to him after his arrival, presumably still alive.
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John DEARLOVE (Convict record) https://tinyurl.com/ybvlmd3u
1852 Marriage Permissions
DEARLOVE, John
Ship/free: Maria Somes
Marriage to:
EGAN, Mary
Ship/free: Duke of Cornwall
Permission date: 13 Sep 1852
https://tinyurl.com/yad8y4al
https://stors.tas.gov.au/CON52-1-5p030j2k
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Some mentions on Trove: http://www.rootschat.com/links/01m4m/
1851 https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/65573965
TICKETS-OF-LEAVE GRANTED.
...John Dearlove, Maria Somes
1852 https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/173062770
CONVICT DEPARTMENT.
Controller General's Office, 4th Oct.
....His Excellency the Lieutenant-Governor has been pleased to approve of the solemnization of Matrimony between the under-mentioned parties: ... John Dearlove, t.l., "Maria Somes" 1, and Mary Evans, "Anna Maria," both residing in the Hobart district.
1852 https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/173062789
CONVICT DEPARTMENT.
Controller-General’s Office,
11th October, 1852.
The Lieutenant-Governor has been pleased to withdraw his sanction to the marriage of the under-mentioned persons ;—
John Dearlove. T. L„ "Maria Somes," and Mary Evans, “Anna Maria”, both residing in the Hobart District.
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John DEARLOVE (Convict record) https://tinyurl.com/ybvlmd3u
1852 Marriage Permissions
DEARLOVE, John
Ship/free: Maria Somes
Marriage to:
EGAN, Mary
Ship/free: Duke of Cornwall
Permission date: 13 Sep 1852
https://tinyurl.com/yad8y4al
https://stors.tas.gov.au/CON52-1-5p030j2k
This is not correct. Mary EGAN of the Duke of Cornwall died on 11 Sep 1852 at Oatlands.
For some reason Tas Archives has indexed the woman's name as Mary EGAN of the Duke of Cornwall when the actual document says Maria EVANS of the D (could be Duke or Duchess) of Cornwall. The newspaper names her as Mary EVANS of the Anna Maria which I think is probably correct.
Permission was refused as his wife was still alive and Mary EVANS married someone else.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/173062770
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/173062789
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01m4n/
Debra :)
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In case you dont have the Marriage;
15 May 1842, All Saints, Edmonton, Middlesex, to Esther DANIELS
Looks like Esther had a lover!
1851 Census
Esther Dearlove, 31, Mar, Visitor, Needlewoman, born Edmonton
John Dearlove, 8, Son
Esther Dearlove, 2, Daug
1861 Census
Esther Dearlove 41
John Dearlove 18
Esther Dearlove 12
Sarah Dearlove 9
Emma Dearlove 7
Rebecca Dearlove 1mth
Charles Day 3
William Day 40
Harriet Day 16
As Esther is with William Day in 1851 also he may have been the culprit.
John William Dearloves birth reg has Mothers mn as Daniels
Esther is reg as Day, Mothers mn Daniels.
William Day/Esther Dearlove finally married 1863.
You probably have this Greaves but it may help someone else in the future.
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Trish - many thanks, but yes I had all this. My original question was where was John in 1851? Esther was already living with William in 1851, but still married to John. I couldn't work out what happened to John, but I now know he was transported.
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Fair enough. Cant see anything for him in Oz with my resources sorry.
Trish :)
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Dundee - how do you know the reason for the withdrawal of permission? I ask because in my experience, transportation effectively worked as a divorce. Certainly, his wife in England re-married as a widow. And another of my relatives also re-married as a widow following the transportation of her husband.
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It is in his convict records - In the event of this man petitioning to be married the Bp [Bishop] of Tasmania certifies that his wife is still alive in England.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01m4n/
Of course I don't know if that is definitely the reason. It wasn't always the case that a first marriage was disregarded. I have documents for a woman who had already twice applied to marry and was refused and the only reason she was approved the third time was that another convict stated that he had attended her husband's funeral in Ireland (liar, liar, pants on fire ;D )
Your John did not have a life sentence so technically he could have completed his 10 years and returned to England.
Esther did not remarry until 1863 so I think that if there was no contact after 20 years then he could reasonably be assumed to be dead.
Debra :)
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As far as I know after 7 years you could remarry if deserted/spouse presumed dead etc.
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Some Tasmanian clergy ignored the law and would refuse to marry convicts that they knew or suspected were already married.
A couple of pages about it, including a few examples, here
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article233096797
M
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This all very useful, until a few days ago I never even knew that he had been transported. I suppose the next thing I need to find out is when and where he died. I am assuming that he never returned to England.
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As a clue to help...on what happened to him. My also ancestor also arrived on the Maria Sommes....it appears many of those younger convicts were sent to Maria Island for a period.
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As far as I can see, John James Dearlove was given a conditional discharge on 20 June 1853. Problem is I have no idea what happened to him after that. I am assuming that he stayed in Australia, the cost of a return trip to England probably being beyond his means.
Ay ideas? Any help gratefully received.
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Conditional Discharge or Conditional Pardon ? -usually meant "on the condition to never to return to England". Review the Passenger lists of the steamers leaving VDL...for Port Phillip in 1853.
If he was looking for a new start...leaving VDL was a option....I also note there is a advert. notice in the Argus (Vict. Trove) 26/3/1892..which refers to a James Dearlove killed in the Maori war ?...possibly a VDL or Vict Volunteer ?... anyway maybe worth looking at.
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Many convicts who were discharged from Tasmania at this time headed to Victoria for the Gold Rush which started in 1851. (ref Convicts to Diggers i.e. AIF project) Returning to England wasn't an option as stated.
Have checked 3 versions of Vic BDM ( Ancestry not complete) but nothing there.
Have checked NZ records which is a possiblility but nothing there.
Have you considered trying to find if John and wife had chn and try to trace him that way.
Or he changed his name which was not uncommon.
Good luck
shume from Australia
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Conditional Discharge or Conditional Pardon ? -usually meant "on the condition to never to return to England". Review the Passenger lists of the steamers leaving VDL...for Port Phillip in 1853.
If he was looking for a new start...leaving VDL was a option....I also note there is a advert. notice in the Argus (Vict. Trove) 26/3/1892..which refers to a James Dearlove killed in the Maori war ?...possibly a VDL or Vict Volunteer ?... anyway maybe worth looking at.
"Recommended for Conditional Pardon" 1852
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article65580596
Also, I think the Sergeant DEARLOVE who was wounded and died in the Maori wars in NZ was Charles DEARLOVE. Some articles identifying him (I'm assuming the same man who has been promoted, though I may be wrong!)
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01n77/
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01n76/
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01n78/
Modified to add:
my mistake, there is also a James DEARLOVE :-[